Religious intolerance (3 Viewers)

martcov

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Life should be....including art, music, shared laughter, picnics, politics, moral outrage, special privileges for children only, wonder and humour and endless love.

Let's do our best. No need for religion to get in the way of it.....
 

skybluedan

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Life should be....including art, music, shared laughter, picnics, politics, moral outrage, special privileges for children only, wonder and humour and endless love.

Let's do our best. No need for religion to get in the way of it.....

If you changed the politics to smoking and the picnics to dogging I'm in!!!
 

Astute

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This was your comment

I have not said that they are.

Don't you find it strange that so many highly intelligent and highly regarded people have come to the same conclusion?
And I stand by what I said.

Highly intelligent people have more thought power than the rest of us. That is not saying that the rest of us are thick. I find it very interesting reading up on their thoughts. They don't rubbish the bible. They don't rubbish religion. But they do tell you what their thoughts are and why.

I have enough of a problem trying to consider if the universe is never ending. It is possibly infinite. I am not on about how much of it God has made or if we have the only living planet. If there are others are they more intelligent than us?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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And I stand by what I said.

Highly intelligent people have more thought power than the rest of us. That is not saying that the rest of us are thick. I find it very interesting reading up on their thoughts. They don't rubbish the bible. They don't rubbish religion. But they do tell you what their thoughts are and why.

I have enough of a problem trying to consider if the universe is never ending. It is possibly infinite. I am not on about how much of it God has made or if we have the only living planet. If there are others are they more intelligent than us?
I have enough problem with that too
 

covcity4life

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jsut caught up with thread again

atheists pushing their beliefs on religious people

how ironic:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:
 

trevelfarandwide

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jsut caught up with thread again

atheists pushing their beliefs on religious people

how ironic:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

And there we have it, the essence of Atheism. This is why I'm not engaging in any 'discussions' in this thread anymore.
 

covcity4life

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just find it so weird that adults cant say "i believe this and this is why,but i respect you beleive something different and i dont need you to agree with me."
 

martcov

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jsut caught up with thread again

atheists pushing their beliefs on religious people

how ironic:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

What beliefs? Evolution is a fact not a belief. Your brain dies when you do. It ceases to exist. I think most religious people accept that. They just create a "soul" which they claim goes to paradise, or hell when you lived somewhere which wasn't Christian. You can only go heaven through Christ according to some interpretations.
 

martcov

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And there we have it, the essence of Atheism. This is why I'm not engaging in any 'discussions' in this thread anymore.

How ironic. People are being murdered or at war all over the world because of various religious cults pushing their beliefs on each other or on non believers, and you have the audacity to say that atheists- who by definition are non believers - are pushing beliefs on to believers.

All we are saying is back up you claims with evidence if you want to tell us things about your imaginary friend. Not difficult really - that is if you have evidence to back up your beliefs.
 

covcity4life

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lol martcov you are embarrassing yourself. you have no evidence to back up your claims. no one can prove how universe started. and no one can prove what happens after you die.

stop claiming you can. and relgious people cant prove it otherwise either btw

this really is quite straightforward lol.
 

martcov

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lol martcov you are embarrassing yourself. you have no evidence to back up your claims. no one can prove how universe started. and no one can prove what happens after you die.

stop claiming you can. and relgious people cant prove it otherwise either btw

this really is quite straightforward lol.

No one can prove if your soul exist. I have never observed a soul. So until you can show me proof of your claim, then we have to accept that the body dies and that is it. I am not claiming to know what happens after death, I am saying that body dies - you are telling me that there is life after death. Prove it. No one can prove exactly how the universe started, but we have a good model which shows a large part of how it started as it is still largely observable.
 

martcov

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NO ONE CAN PROVE ANYTHING EITHER WAY. WE ALL AGREE ON THAT FFS

Yes, but I don't have to prove anything. People die, their bodies rot away. You say they don't die, they live on without a body. A fantastic claim. You have to prove your claim. The bodies rot away. That is observable. I don't have to prove that any further, but you are going to have a hard job to prove your point.
 

covcity4life

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where have i said they dont die? where have i disputed what happens to their physical bodies?

stop lying. you get everything wrong and lie to save face.

i dont have to prove anything btw. people can believe what they want.

religious intolerance indeed!
 

covcity4life

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Exactly. You have nothing to say but feel the need to say a lot.

what are you on about? where have i said alot about anything other than respecting everyone possible?

are you now saying those that believe in god shouldnt be allowed to post?

stop chatting shit lol
 

martcov

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where have i said they dont die? where have i disputed what happens to their physical bodies?

stop lying. you get everything wrong and lie to save face.

i dont have to prove anything btw. people can believe what they want.

religious intolerance indeed!

What have I said that is wrong and what have I lied about? Do you believe people live on without a body? Yes or no - just want to clear this up.
 

covcity4life

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1)i dont know what i believe 100% be it god or science
2)when the body dies it dies.
3)by living on i think you mean soul which could go heaven,could be reincarnated or maybe nothing

once again i dont know and neither do you.
 

Astute

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1)i dont know what i believe 100% be it god or science
2)when the body dies it dies.
3)by living on i think you mean soul which could go heaven,could be reincarnated or maybe nothing

once again i dont know and neither do you.
But why keep having a go at atheist ideas? You could have had the same digs at those who believe but you didn't.
 

Astute

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what are you on about? where have i said alot about anything other than respecting everyone possible?

are you now saying those that believe in god shouldnt be allowed to post?

stop chatting shit lol
Show me where I have disrespected anyone who wasn't a twat first.
 

covcity4life

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But why keep having a go at atheist ideas? You could have had the same digs at those who believe but you didn't.

i have not been rude to ANYONES IDEAS. i have said atheists causing trouble because this thread is full of atheists being rude astute if im being honest.

travel was rude to you, he apologised.

that was last week.

catchingu p on this weekends stuff and its all "oooh prove your fairytale friend exists" etc. just so immature and rude.

i dont see any religious people saying ahah omg you beleive in science which was made up by a man and then proven wrong every few decades and replaced with new facts that must be true" etc etc

once again i say beleive what you beleive but dont be rude to others

its so easy to say" i just cant imagine there is anything like a soul, ithink when you die thats it,lights out" instead of "the body dies,it rots, this is fact! what you are saying is BS,you live in la la land etc

now i have re-read this before i have posted. if anyone disagrees i am truly out of ways to explain human decency to people!
 

Astute

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i have not been rude to ANYONES IDEAS. i have said atheists causing trouble because this thread is full of atheists being rude astute if im being honest.

travel was rude to you, he apologised.

that was last week.

catchingu p on this weekends stuff and its all "oooh prove your fairytale friend exists" etc. just so immature and rude.

i dont see any religious people saying ahah omg you beleive in science which was made up by a man and then proven wrong every few decades and replaced with new facts that must be true" etc etc

once again i say beleive what you beleive but dont be rude to others

its so easy to say" i just cant imagine there is anything like a soul, ithink when you die thats it,lights out" instead of "the body dies,it rots, this is fact! what you are saying is BS,you live in la la land etc

now i have re-read this before i have posted. if anyone disagrees i am truly out of ways to explain human decency to people!
OK. Who have I been rude to?
 

trevelfarandwide

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lol martcov you are embarrassing yourself. you have no evidence to back up your claims. no one can prove how universe started. and no one can prove what happens after you die.

stop claiming you can. and relgious people cant prove it otherwise either btw

this really is quite straightforward lol.

You're actually spot on, mate. This is also why I'm backing out of discussions of this nature, to not 'offend' any more Atheists with the perspective my faith gives. It's not my goal to offend or provoke, despite people's opinion on that statement.

I will say this: when we leave our physical body, and enter into the spirit realm, that is when the answers of the Universe, Life and Truth will be apparent/given to us. This is my belief anyway. Until that day, it's my duty to find as much of the Truth of this world that I can. There are no clear answers in Science (as it based mainly upon theory) and there are no clear answers in religious texts/Holy Scriptures, because it deals with perspectives, ideologies and messages written in metaphor, allegory and parable.

So I will again apologise to all of those I offended, may you all be blessed.
 

martcov

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You're actually spot on, mate. This is also why I'm backing out of discussions of this nature, to not 'offend' any more Atheists with the perspective my faith gives. It's not my goal to offend or provoke, despite people's opinion on that statement.

I will say this: when we leave our physical body, and enter into the spirit realm, that is when the answers of the Universe, Life and Truth will be apparent/given to us. This is my belief anyway. Until that day, it's my duty to find as much of the Truth of this world that I can. There are no clear answers in Science (as it based mainly upon theory) and there are no clear answers in religious texts/Holy Scriptures, because it deals with perspectives, ideologies and messages written in metaphor, allegory and parable.

So I will again apologise to all of those I offended, may you all be blessed.

You just don't get it do you? You make assertions that you cannot back up and continue to confuse the word theory. In science it is as near to fact as you can get. Science modestly leaves it open to improvements being made to theory at some time, but you can take is as fact. Evolution, gravity etc. are provable facts. Theory otherwise means a hypothesis. Religion is basically bullshit. Cannot be proven or unproven. Some would say, absolute crap. There are loads of clear answers in science, but 0,00 clear answers in religion. Religious people are constantly fighting with each other about gods and interpretations of whose god can do what.

Your ignorance and stubborness to accept that, the word theory in science has a different meaning to theory in normal speech offends me. I do not accept your apology because it is not meant as such. You just want to seem "nice", but you are just a bullshitter and have annoyed many on here.
 

covcity4life

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You're actually spot on, mate. This is also why I'm backing out of discussions of this nature, to not 'offend' any more Atheists with the perspective my faith gives. It's not my goal to offend or provoke, despite people's opinion on that statement.

I will say this: when we leave our physical body, and enter into the spirit realm, that is when the answers of the Universe, Life and Truth will be apparent/given to us. This is my belief anyway. Until that day, it's my duty to find as much of the Truth of this world that I can. There are no clear answers in Science (as it based mainly upon theory) and there are no clear answers in religious texts/Holy Scriptures, because it deals with perspectives, ideologies and messages written in metaphor, allegory and parable.

So I will again apologise to all of those I offended, may you all be blessed.

indeed

i pray for everyone wether they like it or not lol
 

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