Butts Park Arena - put up or shut up ! (1 Viewer)

italiahorse

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He said "ideally"'didn't he?
How gullible are you to believe CRFC would allow Sisu to dictate this ?
They are playing them along and if they do it right the free pitch at Northampton will be just chicken feed.
Thankfully it's not CCFC paying for it and CCFC will always be welcome back at the Ricoh.
 

Astute

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Who knows? Never been explored has it.
Wasps might be happy for SISU to buy a 50% share right now. As they would also be buying half of the debt owed to the bond holders.
 

Grendel

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And Fisher said 12k to 25k. 25k to keep the supporters happy and 12k to keep Sharp happy.

I was merely showing your reference to the quote Sharp made was incorrect.
 

Grendel

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Wasps might be happy for SISU to buy a 50% share right now. As they would also be buying half of the debt owed to the bond holders.

Oh dear.
 

SkyblueBazza

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Agree needs to be 23-25k as a min which means this is dead in the water.
Not from their perspective. The nearer to full each week the happier they will be because the profit will look healthy.
They will be looking at the likes of Bournemouth & just thinking that they get us to the Premiership with a 12k attendance week in week out - they can charge what they like!

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

dongonzalos

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I would take anything lower than 25k only If planning permission is agreed on 25k first, before we build anything we need to know it's feasible to expand. Also Jon Sharpe says 12k only. So what assurances do we have that he and the CRFC board would not be an obtacle to any future expansion.
 

rupert_bear

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Reckon Wasps would let us buy 50% for under £3m, or would be be the matchday revenues type quote?
Buying into the Ricoh has always been the sensible option and I would imagine anything upto 49% would be achievable then Fisher would have his 365 day wish for income stream. BPA will not happen, even if or when the plans are submitted the objections would delay things months even years, we need a ground next year and if plans are submitted and the legal system continue any likelihood of Wasp talks to stay at the Ricoh for a bit and at what price would diminish I suspect. That brings another question where else is there ? I keep reading we could end up out of Coventry again, but where. If TF has trawled around for an alternative venue he must have spoken to someone local authorities ? Police ? so where ? the information must be out there ! Perhaps the CET could investigate that on the FOI act.
 

Astute

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I was merely showing your reference to the quote Sharp made was incorrect.
So how about using his whole quote? Do you think it will happen? Because if you think it will happen and the capacity will be 15k or over you will be one of only a few.
 

Astute

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I would take anything lower than 25k only If planning permission is agreed on 25k first, before we build anything we need to know it's feasible to expand. Also Jon Sharpe says 12k only. So what assurances do we have that he and the CRFC board would not be an obtacle to any future expansion.
Because Grendel says so :smuggrin:
 

dongonzalos

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Because Grendel says so :smuggrin:

I forgot about that also he says we won't move out of Coventry as well, so all will be ok.

Hang on didn't he said we won't move to Northampton it's just a bluff. That the council won't find an alternative use for the Ricoh, it's just a bluff and that we shouldn't sign up for any long term rental deal or buy ACL we should just keep pushing till it goes out of business. That any decision SISU make is for the good of the club so should be backed?
Suddenly I feel less reassured.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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Here's the problem.

Go to the Butts or stay at the Ricoh. Either way we don't own our stadium. All the Butts is doing is giving better revenue streams possibly.

I still feel this is a negotiation tactic to get revenue streams from the Ricoh.

Ultimately nothing will happen till Sisu drop legal proceedings.
 

Limey

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Definitely still about the Ricoh. Sisu trying to build a plausible plan for butts to gain a short term lease in hope wasps start to implode.
Discussions keep the FL happy (not hard) and deflects blame to other parties if it cannot be agreed.
I'm convinced it's about getting something for minimal cost/nothing.
TF needs to be grilled on scope of costings/planning/design of butts if we are 100% to leave Ricoh imminently. I'm bet it will unravel quickly.
 

Grendel

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I forgot about that also he says we won't move out of Coventry as well, so all will be ok.

Hang on didn't he said we won't move to Northampton it's just a bluff. That the council won't find an alternative use for the Ricoh, it's just a bluff and that we shouldn't sign up for any long term rental deal or buy ACL we should just keep pushing till it goes out of business. That any decision SISU make is for the good of the club so should be backed?
Suddenly I feel less reassured.

Lol - I was going to reply to each point but given you've admitted you are proud of acl and proud of the council I guess why waste my time.

To compound your problem you've had a like from a fellow CCFC hating council sponsored troll.
 

shmmeee

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Grendel.exe

DoWhile(loggedIn)
{
If(reply.author in shitList)
PostCouncilTroll(rand(100))
If(reply == goodPoint())
PostVagueResponseHintingAtKnowledgeIDontHave(rand(10))

Else
PostAboutAuthorsPosingHistory()

If(topic == football)
Post(xPlayer + " is shit and will never make it as a footballer. ")
}

Who says it'll take 50 years to automate us.
 

Astute

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Lol - I was going to reply to each point but given you've admitted you are proud of acl and proud of the council I guess why waste my time.

To compound your problem you've had a like from a fellow CCFC hating council sponsored troll.
Try replying to each point. I could do with a laugh.
 

Grendel

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Try replying to each point. I could do with a laugh.

If you could do with a laugh read back some of your own posts and remember your favourite catchphrase "I see blame on both sides"
 

Astute

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If you could do with a laugh read back some of your own posts and remember your favourite catchphrase "I see blame on both sides"
So I am supposedly as deluded as you?

I am normally quite accurate when guessing what will happen next. You don't like it when what I guess will happen next would show badly against SISU. But you seem to choose to ignore where I do the same against anyone else. Like now where I think what Wasps are up to. This isn't having a go at SISU. But you will try and twist it that way. Or you will ignore it all together.

The two things I have got wrong was I didn't think we would move to Northampton and I thought SISU would put the 60% of income into the squad including transfer fees like promised.

It would be quicker from you to say when you have been right. I am struggling to think of anything.
 

Grendel

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So I am supposedly as deluded as you?

I am normally quite accurate when guessing what will happen next. You don't like it when what I guess will happen next would show badly against SISU. But you seem to choose to ignore where I do the same against anyone else. Like now where I think what Wasps are up to. This isn't having a go at SISU. But you will try and twist it that way. Or you will ignore it all together.

The two things I have got wrong was I didn't think we would move to Northampton and I thought SISU would put the 60% of income into the squad including transfer fees like promised.

It would be quicker from you to say when you have been right. I am struggling to think of anything.

I read two sentences and guessed what would happen next. It happened. A like from council dart.

What fine company you keep.
 

Astute

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I read two sentences and guessed what would happen next. It happened. A like from council dart.

What fine company you keep.
The only thing predictable is you making a comment and not backing it up. To you it seems a personal attack is a reply to a debate. You must have nothing to back up your claims as usual.
 

Grendel

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The only thing predictable is you making a comment and not backing it up. To you it seems a personal attack is a reply to a debate. You must have nothing to back up your claims as usual.

I know - unlike your claims of course which are always backed up with sources, links and hard facts.

They don't call you astute for nothing.
 

Astute

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I know - unlike your claims of course which are always backed up with sources, links and hard facts.

They don't call you astute for nothing.
Come on then. Show me the sources links and hard facts I have come out with.

This is where we differ. I use thought and work out the maybes. You just attack anyone who says anything against SISU. Even when you know it is the truth. What a joke you have become.
 

Grendel

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Come on then. Show me the sources links and hard facts I have come out with.

This is where we differ. I use thought and work out the maybes. You just attack anyone who says anything against SISU. Even when you know it is the truth. What a joke you have become.

Well I have asked about 500 times to show some posts where I defend sisu. I thought by now you'd be astute enough to find an example.
 

Astute

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Well I have asked about 500 times to show some posts where I defend sisu. I thought by now you'd be astute enough to find an example.
Is that the best you can come out with?

I said that you verbally attack anyone that says anything against SISU. And you do. Or are you going to disagree with something that everyone knows to be true?
 

Grendel

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Is that the best you can come out with?

I said that you verbally attack anyone that says anything against SISU. And you do. Or are you going to disagree with something that everyone knows to be true?

Can't say everyone agrees it. Can't see a single verbal attack either.

Can't see any evidence either.
 

Astute

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Can't say everyone agrees it. Can't see a single verbal attack either.

Can't see any evidence either.
Are you saying that it has never happened?

Are you saying that you don't use names like small kids use in the playground? I can picture you sniggering in front of your PC when calling me Arsetute. Or how about your usual boring 'council (add name)' You have got very personal with anyone you have found to work for CCC. Yet I suppose none of it has happened.
 

Captain Dart

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What a sad, pathetic case of childish Tourettes.
 

Grendel

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Are you saying that it has never happened?

Are you saying that you don't use names like small kids use in the playground? I can picture you sniggering in front of your PC when calling me Arsetute. Or how about your usual boring 'council (add name)' You have got very personal with anyone you have found to work for CCC. Yet I suppose none of it has happened.

I used the word arsetute once to highlight the juvenality of name calling and childlike terms like Grendull. Perhaps you'd like to do another poll?
 

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