Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (6 Viewers)

stupot07

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Participation in sport in australia 2015 study

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8th Dec 2016

Football is comfortably the most popular club sport in Australia, boasting more than one million players across the country, a new survey has revealed.

The Australian Sports Commission’s landmark AusPlay report was unveiled on Thursday, examining a range of issues from what sports people play, how often they are active, their motivation for getting fit and how much Australians spend on being active.

The data is comprised of answers from more than 20,000 adults and 4000 children and is the first report of its ilk since the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) pulled the plug on sport data two years ago.

Football was streets ahead of its nearest rival, with 1.086 million players – based on population estimate – involved at club level in Australia.

Golf (685,732) was second, followed by Australian rules football (635,627) and netball (625,721) while cricket was sixth and rugby union did not feature at all.




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Nick

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Own up Nick.. When ever anyone has a dig at SISU you're on it like flies round shit mate.

Link to it then?

As I have said, this is exactly the same as the KCIC offer where anybody asking for information or anything about the "offer" is defending SISU.

It's the go to line. Again, it's laughable.
 

SkyBlueZack

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Incredible that people are not willing to ask any questions just to get rid of SISU. Just a thought, but what if the new owners are just as bad. We have to be careful, we can't have shit owners again. We need to ask questions and find out details. Did we really do that when SISU took over? Or were we all just relieved at being 'saved'? I have always been taught to ask questions, not sure how it makes you a SISU fan. Asking questions broadens your knowledge, is that a bad thing?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Link to it then?

As I have said, this is exactly the same as the KCIC offer where anybody asking for information or anything about the "offer" is defending SISU.

It's the go to line. Again, it's laughable.

OK!... LINK....
Link to it then?

As I have said, this is exactly the same as the KCIC offer where anybody asking for information or anything about the "offer" is defending SISU.

It's the go to line. Again, it's laughable.



That good enough for you?
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Anybody else heartened by the fact these rumours are being pushed by Simon Gilbert? Last time there was a rumour he was on here shooting it down...

I'm really grasping a straws here
 

Irish Sky Blue

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Incredible that people are not willing to ask any questions just to get rid of SISU. Just a thought, but what if the new owners are just as bad. We have to be careful, we can't have shit owners again. We need to ask questions and find out details. Did we really do that when SISU took over? Or were we all just relieved at being 'saved'? I have always been taught to ask questions, not sure how it makes you a SISU fan. Asking questions broadens your knowledge, is that a bad thing?

Do fans have a veto over who Sisu will sell to?
I think we are already the unluckiest set of fans over the last 10 years. How unlucky would we be to get owners worse than Sisu? Impossible in fact because no one is worse than Sisu.
 

torchomatic

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Anybody else heartened by the fact these rumours are being pushed by Simon Gilbert? Last time there was a rumour he was on here shooting it down...

I'm really grasping a straws here

Not really. He needs clicks to survive under the Trinity Mirror model so I don't think he's bothered if there's any truth in an article or not.
 

weecohawena

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Do fans have a veto over who Sisu will sell to?
I think we are already the unluckiest set of fans over the last 10 years. How unlucky would we be to get owners worse than Sisu? Impossible in fact because no one is worse than Sisu.

I bet there is.

Sir Phillip Green
Theresa May
Chairman Mao

to think of a few
 

CCFC88

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Does this help?......

League attendance of team sports
Competition Sport Total
spectatorship
Average
attendance
Year Ref
Australian Football League Australian football 6,872,005 33,198 2016 [96]
Big Bash League Cricket 1,053,997 30,114 2016–17 [97][98]
Super Rugby Rugby union 773,940 19,348 2012 [99]
National Rugby League Rugby league 3,227,436 16,057 2016 [100]
A-League Soccer 1,778,844 12,706 2015–16 [101]
National Basketball League Basketball 574,813 5,132 2013–14 [102]
National Rugby Championship Rugby union 87,704 2,249 2014
Total attendance by sport
Sport Total
spectatorship
Average
attendance
Year Ref
Australian football 7,150,586 30,044 2016 [103]
Cricket 1,756,131 24,734 2016–17 [104][105]
Rugby union 771,521 18,818 2016 [106]
Rugby league 3,589,789 16,619 2016 [107]
Soccer 2,502,789 13,242 2015–16 [108]
Basketball 316,018 6,724 2015–16 [109]

Some quite sketchy figures here. What is the rugby Union figure made up of? All Super Rugby league games or just the ones played in Australia? Only 5 Union teams in Aus compared to 16 in NRL so average attendance is bound to be diluted. There are 6 NRL teams in Sydney alone, more than Union teams in the whole of Australia competing in Super rugby.

Back to the initial point made by Voice of nonsense, nothing here shows me that Rugby U is "massive" in Australia. I expect he knows very little on the subject and just shouted out the first thing that came into his head because he saw Australia lose to England in the latest world cup.
 

Nick

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I suggest you do the same as robbiekeane.....

Have a read of the KCIC offer thread, in there it's where people got told they were defending SISU constantly for asking basic logical questions to a member on here who had made an offer to buy the club.

Again, it's the go to line.

"The rent will be paid if attendances are below 5000"
"What happens if it is over?"
"stop defending SISU".
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Some quite sketchy figures here. What is the rugby Union figure made up of? All Super Rugby league games or just the ones played in Australia? Only 5 Union teams in Aus compared to 16 in NRL so average attendance is bound to be diluted. There are 6 NRL teams in Sydney alone, more than Union teams in the whole of Australia competing in Super rugby.

Back to the initial point made by Voice of nonsense, nothing here shows me that Rugby U is "massive" in Australia. I expect he knows very little on the subject and just shouted out the first thing that came into his head because he saw Australia lose to England in the latest world cup.


Wiki.. go to "Spectator 5" and it shows you more clearly in their graphs ;)
Sport in Australia - Wikipedia
 

sky_blue_up_north

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If it is the Aussie it might be attractive to them as Rugby Union is massive down under. They could well work in conjunction with Wasps, the Man Utd of Rugby Union regarding sharing the Ricoh on attractive terms ?
League is far bigger most Aussie are not fused about Union
 

SkyBlueZack

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Do fans have a veto over who Sisu will sell to?
I think we are already the unluckiest set of fans over the last 10 years. How unlucky would we be to get owners worse than Sisu? Impossible in fact because no one is worse than Sisu.

No we don't. Does that mean we shouldn't ask questions though? Find out potential owners intentions and plans? Could we get worse owners? I'd say yes on the basis that there are other clubs with bad owners. We live in a world with more than a fair share of greedy, deceitful people, that are just like SISU. It would be really bad luck to have shit owners again. This is why asking questions and finding out details is necessary to ensure we try and avoid a repeat situation.
 

Voice_of_Reason

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Some quite sketchy figures here. What is the rugby Union figure made up of? All Super Rugby league games or just the ones played in Australia? Only 5 Union teams in Aus compared to 16 in NRL so average attendance is bound to be diluted. There are 6 NRL teams in Sydney alone, more than Union teams in the whole of Australia competing in Super rugby.

Back to the initial point made by Voice of nonsense, nothing here shows me that Rugby U is "massive" in Australia. I expect he knows very little on the subject and just shouted out the first thing that came into his head because he saw Australia lose to England in the latest world cup.
I apologise for my mistake made without research or thought.
 

SkyBlueZack

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Really-is that possible ?
That's a bit of a long shot my friend

That's why I put if. Not beyond the realms of possibility though. Clubs are seen as toys by most owners, an ego boost, the want to be adored and a hero etc. We need owners who care only about the club and the community it is within. Owners like that are few and far between.
 

Grendel

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So my guess is;

Takeover fronted by you know who
Agreement in principal to stay at the Ricoh
Ground sponsorship hand in hand with said "takeover"
Details of "takeover" confidential but zero funds upfront with payback on achievement
"takeover" already been rejected and we need to get pitchforks at the ready.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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No we don't. Does that mean we shouldn't ask questions though? Find out potential owners intentions and plans? Could we get worse owners? I'd say yes on the basis that there are other clubs with bad owners. We live in a world with more than a fair share of greedy, deceitful people, that are just like SISU. It would be really bad luck to have shit owners again. This is why asking questions and finding out details is necessary to ensure we try and avoid a repeat situation.

You can ask the questions but I still don't see how you you can avoid who Sisu will sell to. No harm in asking the questions however so long as you get honest answers.
With regard to whoever takes over from Sisu, they would have to be pretty gormless if they thought that there was a crock of gold at the end of our particular rainbow. Anyone taking us over for purposes of greed would have to put in so much money first before they would have a hope of any return that you would have to wonder why they would do it. I suppose we could get someone who is well intentioned but useless at running a club. However that is still an improvement on Sisu.
 

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