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Liquid Gold

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All these people criticising fans for wanting to go to away games, yet many preached that we should respect each other's decisions. Bit hypocritical if you ask me.
So your purpose in pointing out Newcastle are not in League 2 was that we should respect each others decisions?
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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So your purpose in pointing out Newcastle are not in League 2 was that we should respect each others decisions?
Yes Newcastle dropped a division and their owner heavily invested. This is not comparable to our situation where people are choosing to go to the away games due to the politics surrounding the club. People are now being criticised for only going away, when people said that everyone should respect each other's decisions when fans who renewed their season tickets were criticised. Is that not hypocritical?
 

Hobo

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And that would be a perfectly reasonable argument.

There's just no evidence to support the not wanting to fund Sisu argument any more.

And there is no evidence for SISU not to be grateful of the fan base the team has. Seppala's refusal to make any comment for the fans when exiting the court just breeds contempt. She knew the date, win or lose there should have been a statement.

It seems whenever there are positives SISU are hell bent on ramming negatives down the fans throat.

There is every argument for not wanting to fund SISU anymore; however the reality of its effectiveness is another matter.
 

mark82

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And there is no evidence for SISU not to be grateful of the fan base the team has. Seppala's refusal to make any comment for the fans when exiting the court just breeds contempt. She knew the date, win or lose there should have been a statement.

It seems whenever there are positives SISU are hell bent on ramming negatives down the fans throat.

There is every argument for not wanting to fund SISU anymore; however the reality of its effectiveness is another matter.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that. For me it's just about more fans means better atmosphere and a better playing budget. Nothing more, nothing less. It's about supporting the team, I couldn't give a fuck about Seppala and her crooked pals.

Buying tickets is not funding Sisu though. The accounts don't show any evidence of them taking money out.
 

Hobo

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I don't think anyone would disagree with that. For me it's just about more fans means better atmosphere and a better playing budget. Nothing more, nothing less. It's about supporting the team, I couldn't give a fuck about Seppala and her crooked pals.

Buying tickets is not funding Sisu though. The accounts don't show any evidence of them taking money out.

They might not be, but they are very much influencing what is happening to the club. I have said it countless times before, they keep missing chances to engage the fans and get them on board. I can't believe anybody, not even an amateur, could be that bad at marketing.

It is almost like they want to disengage the fans and winding down the club suits their purpose. Which fits their futile attempts at claiming damages.

The players, manager and coaching staff have my full backing as always. But performances are what will put my bum on a seat (and that doesn't mean winning every week, as I have supported plenty of city sides who have lost more than they have won).
 

Steve.B50

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Out of interest, why away only? There is absolutely no evidence of Sisu taking money out of the club and they don't want to put money in, so not going to home games makes absolutely no difference to Sisu but will lower the playing budget. Just wondered what the logic was?

A number of reasons why but possibly because I do not want to commit to every game, or the football was poor or I don't trust our owners or maybe I just don't care enough anymore.
 

Nick

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A number of reasons why but possibly because I do not want to commit to every game, or the football was poor or I don't trust our owners or maybe I just don't care enough anymore.

What has going to a home game got to do with trusting the owners though?

If you didn't care any more, you wouldn't go to every away game ;) It will be the same 11 players playing at away games in League 2, so the poor football stuff doesn't really add up for going to away games only. It won't suddenly be Brazil playing at Newport Away.
 

Steve.B50

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What has going to a home game got to do with trusting the owners though?

If you didn't care any more, you wouldn't go to every away game ;) It will be the same 11 players playing at away games in League 2, so the poor football stuff doesn't really add up for going to away games only. It won't suddenly be Brazil playing at Newport Away.

Read my reply, I said MAYBE . What I do with my money or my time is up to me.
I am also getting a season ticket for Cov Rugby but no intention of going to every game.

As for the poor football it was terrible most of last season. As for away games I enjoy visiting other grounds, only got 8 on my list where I have not seen the City play.
 

Gazolba

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I think some of you lot are forgetting how bad last season was. Many of our home games were described by people who were these as 'the worst CCFC performance I have seen in my lifetime' and the 'worst squad we have ever had'. It's bit early to be expecting unbounded optimism. Give it a few games; if we play entertaining football and win more than we lose, the crowds will slowly come back.
 

Nick

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Of course it is up to you, I haven't said that it isn't.

I just don't get the "the football is crap", "I dont care any more" so I am going to away games only. No need to pussyfoot about if it's a boycott.
 

Steve.B50

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Of course it is up to you, I haven't said that it isn't.

I just don't get the "the football is crap", "I dont care any more" so I am going to away games only. No need to pussyfoot about if it's a boycott.

Where have I said I am boycotting?
I will go to a few games if things improve, or if we get a big game at home, might walk up if the mood takes me just not having a ST.
 

Steve.B50

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I think some of you lot are forgetting how bad last season was. Many of our home games were described by people who were these as 'the worst CCFC performance I have seen in my lifetime' and the 'worst squad we have ever had'. It's bit early to be expecting unbounded optimism. Give it a few games; if we play entertaining football and win more than we lose, the crowds will slowly come back.

Am sure they will and people like me may take a slow wander up to the Ricoh.
 

rupert_bear

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Most fans not going is nothing to do with NOPM most of last season I witnessed some of the worst performances ever, apart from the Wembley experience we were hopeless and relegation certainties from Christmas and now we are in division 4, read that again division FOUR ffs! Admittedly we picked up towards the end of the season but I suspect it will need a massive effort to entice supporters back. I know a number of die hard s who have given up the ghost
 

Nick

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Most fans not going is nothing to do with NOPM most of last season I witnessed some of the worst performances ever, apart from the Wembley experience we were hopeless and relegation certainties from Christmas and now we are in division 4, read that again division FOUR ffs! Admittedly we picked up towards the end of the season but I suspect it will need a massive effort to entice supporters back. I know a number of die hard s who have given up the ghost

Do people only go depending on the league we are in then/
 

Steve.B50

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And there is no evidence for SISU not to be grateful of the fan base the team has. Seppala's refusal to make any comment for the fans when exiting the court just breeds contempt. She knew the date, win or lose there should have been a statement.

It seems whenever there are positives SISU are hell bent on ramming negatives down the fans throat.

There is every argument for not wanting to fund SISU anymore; however the reality of its effectiveness is another matter.

You worded things much better than me.
 

Brylowes

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They might not be, but they are very much influencing what is happening to the club. I have said it countless times before, they keep missing chances to engage the fans and get them on board. I can't believe anybody, not even an amateur, could be that bad at marketing.

It is almost like they want to disengage the fans and winding down the club suits their purpose. Which fits their futile attempts at claiming damages.

The players, manager and coaching staff have my full
Do people only go depending on the league we are in then/
it would seem so, we lost support on relegation from the prem, we lost more on relegation
From the Championship, and still more on relegation from league 1, so some are more
Attached than others.
Throughout the era of these relegations one thing has stayed the same, the owners with
There unwillingness to engage the fans, and push the club forward.
If they don't have the will or the means to at least try and grow the club they should move
Aside, the fact we have some supporters who give fellow supporters more shit for giving
Up, than they give Owners who gave up years ago, beggars belief IMO
 

rupert_bear

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Do people only go depending on the league we are in then/
Of course they do, older fans especially perhaps spoilt by 34 years top flight football, Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool and all that season after season but now it's Accrington Stanley, Forest Green and Yeovil. I think the attendances will shock us to be honest, the opening gate v Notts County I think despite the opening fixture, localish derby I doubt we'll get much more than 7000 and that could be one of our highest gates
 

Hobo

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it would seem so, we lost support on relegation from the prem, we lost more on relegation
From the Championship, and still more on relegation from league 1, so some are more
Attached than others.
Throughout the era of these relegations one thing has stayed the same, the owners with
There unwillingness to engage the fans, and push the club forward.
If they don't have the will or the means to at least try and grow the club they should move
Aside, the fact we have some supporters who give fellow supporters more shit for giving
Up, than they give Owners who gave up years ago, beggars belief IMO

I liked this post. But I don't think SISU have given up. However their plan isn't around running a football club on tradition lines. Their route is through the court's, a relationship with the fans is irrelevant to their business model.
 

Adge

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I have got behind the team for the last 32 years with season tickets etc but didn't buy one this year. This IS because of the owners. I will go to away games(not worried about small allocations as know 2 people who have renewed but don't go away regularly) to "support the lads" but will be travelling independent of club coaches etc. Hey, I might even pat Juggy on the back when he's on the minibus with us.:emoji_rolling_eyes:Make of that what you will and do whatever suits you best.
 
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Brylowes

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I liked this post. But I don't think SISU have given up. However their plan isn't around running a football club on tradition lines. Their route is through the court's, a relationship with the fans is irrelevant to their business model.
But it's been shown they can't win in court, it's also been shown they have no intention of
investing or trying to do their best for the club its needs or its supporters.
So how haven't they given up, the only thing they haven't given up is ownership, in every
Other respect 'where the club is concerned' they've given up.
 

Hobo

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But it's been shown they can't win in court, it's also been shown they have no intention of
investing or trying to do their best for the club its needs or its supporters.
So how haven't they given up, the only thing they haven't given up is ownership, in every
Other respect 'where the club is concerned' they've given up.

It's SISU...she won't give up because its SISU.
 

mark82

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Most fans not going is nothing to do with NOPM most of last season I witnessed some of the worst performances ever, apart from the Wembley experience we were hopeless and relegation certainties from Christmas and now we are in division 4, read that again division FOUR ffs! Admittedly we picked up towards the end of the season but I suspect it will need a massive effort to entice supporters back. I know a number of die hard s who have given up the ghost

To be fair, not die hards if they have given up the ghost! I get the sentiment, however, the improvement came under Robins who is still here. I'd also argue our squad is better than last year in a worse league. We are where we are and I can't just switch off my support regardless of the division.
 

mark82

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But it's been shown they can't win in court, it's also been shown they have no intention of
investing or trying to do their best for the club its needs or its supporters.
So how haven't they given up, the only thing they haven't given up is ownership, in every
Other respect 'where the club is concerned' they've given up.

They've stopped putting money in but the twats seem intent on hanging onto the club come what may.
 

mark82

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I have got behind the team for the last 32 years with season tickets etc but didn't buy one this year. This IS because of the owners. I will go to away games(not worried about small allocations as know 2 people who have renewed but don't go away regularly) to "support the lads" but will be travelling independent of club coaches etc. Hey, I might even pat Juggy on the back when he's on the minibus with us.:emoji_rolling_eyes:Make of that what you will and do whatever suits you best.

It's a shame. Assume you've probably stopped enjoying it? If not, the only person it affects would be you. I refuse to give up something I enjoy because of Sisu. Not letting them rule my life.
 

Hobo

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To be fair, not die hards if they have given up the ghost! I get the sentiment, however, the improvement came under Robins who is still here. I'd also argue our squad is better than last year in a worse league. We are where we are and I can't just switch off my support regardless of the division.

There are too too many real diehards who have given up the ghost....that's part of the problem and an indication of how bad things are...?

Let's hope we can see an upturn this season.
 

Chipfat

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Sisu set the plan in motion years ago, they know the die hards will show come what may and are planning the structure of the club around this model.

The evidence is for all to see, no matter what we as fans do they have picked the plan and are sticking with it. It could be in the next few years if normal practice is resumed the Butts or Nuneaton will be to big for the club. But it's ok for Sisu it's what they want for the football side of the business, they really just need it's GS and its loyal solid fan base to allow them to carry on playing courts, appeals and silly buggers with all included. Aslong as they appease the FL with delay's, misdirection and claiming to be the victim, the fix will be in.

It's an opinion and in not anyway a dig at those who go, it's an individual decision and should be respected by us all.
 
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