Match Thread Yeovil Town - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 26th Aug (1 Viewer)

0-2 Win

Andreu coming in for Beavon the only change from the start. Nazon off the bench later on in the game.

Doyle MoM, I expect him to be particularly vocal as he won't want to see a performance like Saturday.

Same team as I would have picked for Newport:

O'Brien
Stokes
Grimmer
Willis
McDonald
Jones
Kelly
Doyle
Nazon
Andreu
McNulty

Reckon we'll win 2-1

Andreu for Beavon or McNulty. Possibly Stevenson for Kelly.



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Going for 2-2. Andreu and burge in. Mcnulty and andreu to score

2-3
Andreu, McNulty & Mcdonald

2 changes for me...
---------------O'Brien---------------
Grimmer--Willis---McDonald--Stokes
----------Doyle(c)----Kelly-----------
--Vincenti-----Andreu------Nazon--
--------------McNulty-------------

Subs: Burge, Pearson, Hyam, Stevenson, JJ, Thomas, Beavon.

A billy big bollocks 4 nil win, baby!!

Yeovil are crap, we are too good for this division and we are a massive, massive club.

Big disrespect all round.

A Timmy Tiny Bollocks 1-1.

4-0 City McDonald,McNultyx2 and Jones

What are the sales for this looking like now? We must be on for a sellout.

Yeovil have so far conceded 14 goals and scored 8 in 3 league games.
Luton (8-2loss) put 8 past them, Accrington (3-2 win) 2 at Huish park and Forest Green (4-3 loss) 4 last Saturday.

We're yet to hit goal scoring form tho have been very resilient defensively.

Let's hope we find that killer touch...

Andreu in for Beavon, and Nazon may get the nod over Vincenti... No need for any knee jerk reactions!

Going for a win here, break the mold of drawing this fixture!

The closer it gets the more I can see the depressing 0-0 draw, fucking Yeovil.

Mucca Mad Boys said:

Andreu in for Beavon, and Nazon may get the nod over Vincenti... No need for any knee jerk reactions!

Going for a win here, break the mold of drawing this fixture!

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I think Vincenti will keep his place, but do agree on the Beavon/Andreu switch.

Otis said:

I think Vincenti will keep his place, but do agree on the Beavon/Andreu switch.

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I would keep him in myself, I've just got a feeling MR will mix it up! I'm not overly concerned about the loss to Newport so 1-2 changes will do.

Andreu for Beavon only change, scrappy 1-0 but wouldn't like to say which way!

Would be good to bounce back with a win.....1-0 would do me.

5-0

We're going to walk this league

steve82 said:

We're yet to hit goal scoring form tho have been very resilient defensively.

Let's hope we find that killer touch...

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Yet to hit goal scoring form, we've scored 5 in our first 3 games what more do you want? Id take that form over 46 games, we'll walk the league if we continue to score 5 every 3 games.

CCFC88 said:

Yet to hit goal scoring form, we've scored 5 in our first 3 games what more do you want? Id take that form over 46 games, we'll walk the league if we continue to score 5 every 3 games.

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Ok I'll break it down... JJ had a wonder game getting 3, McNulty was alert and got lucky with his gift of a goal and Grimmer scored from a corner.

Yes it's 5 goals on paper but break it down it's nothing prolific yet is it and JJ isn't gonna do that every few games. We've not exactly missed a hatful of chances. Only 3 players to have scored, yes it's still early so I'm not to despondent but we're far from firing at the minute.

CCFC88 said:

Yet to hit goal scoring form, we've scored 5 in our first 3 games what more do you want? Id take that form over 46 games, we'll walk the league if we continue to score 5 every 3 games.

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If we'd scored early v Newport it would have been an entirely different game imo
Credit to Newport for the way they defended but I suspect (hope) we learned a lot from that game. As it wore on the penny dropped for us especially after Robins made the changes
We will see a lot of teams come to the Ricoh this year trying to play like Newport so we'll have to get used to it
It'll be a different story away as home sides are usually obliged to attack and we have the players to make things happen on the break

better days said:

If we'd scored early v Newport it would have been an entirely different game imo
Credit to Newport for the way they defended but I suspect (hope) we learned a lot from that game. As it wore on the penny dropped for us especially after Robins made the changes
We will see a lot of teams come to the Ricoh this year trying to play like Newport so we'll have to get used to it
It'll be a different story away as home sides are usually obliged to attack and we have the players to make things happen on the break

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Teams coming to the Ricoh and playing like Newport is fine. Had we been able to do the very simple thing of passing 5 yards to each other with enough regularity against them I think we would have won the game.

They frustrated us, but it was our own ineptitude that cost us the game. Get that right we'll be fine.

Otis said:

Teams coming to the Ricoh and playing like Newport is fine. Had we been able to do the very simple thing of passing 5 yards to each other with enough regularity against them I think we would have won the game.

They frustrated us, but it was our own ineptitude that cost us the game. Get that right we'll be fine.

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You're right. I think the passing was much better after the changes and had their keeper not played so well we would have got something
Very different to last year

Otis said:

Teams coming to the Ricoh and playing like Newport is fine. Had we been able to do the very simple thing of passing 5 yards to each other with enough regularity against them I think we would have won the game.

They frustrated us, but it was our own ineptitude that cost us the game. Get that right we'll be fine.

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better days said:

You're right. I think the passing was much better after the changes and had their keeper not played so well we would have got something
Very different to last year

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Newport sure didnt exactly trouble us, and it was a error between a draw and defeat. Your right passing and final decision making is where we let ourselves down, too often we tried killer through balls in a congested Newport half, had we of tried using the width more we'd of enjoyed more success as we did when we actually went wide playing the ball on the deck.

We got in behind a few times this way, but Saturday especially the first half JJ used the width well until 25/30 yards out then opted to cut in on his left rather than looking to beat his man. Grimmer did a good job overlapping doing that role but wasn't always used.

Hopefully we learn from that game.

My trusty prediction 2-1 mind you hasn't been trusty for a while

steve82 said:

Ok I'll break it down... JJ had a wonder game getting 3, McNulty was alert and got lucky with his gift of a goal and Grimmer scored from a corner.

Yes it's 5 goals on paper but break it down it's nothing prolific yet is it and JJ isn't gonna do that every few games. We've not exactly missed a hatful of chances. Only 3 players to have scored, yes it's still early so I'm not to despondent but we're far from firing at the minute.

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You're trying to argue against facts. It doesn't matter who scored and how, to say "were yet to hit goal scoring form" is just false. We scored 5 in the first two games and then had a game where things just didn't click against a team who parked the bus for 35 mins.

steve82 said:

Ok I'll break it down... JJ had a wonder game getting 3, McNulty was alert and got lucky with his gift of a goal and Grimmer scored from a corner.

Yes it's 5 goals on paper but break it down it's nothing prolific yet is it and JJ isn't gonna do that every few games. We've not exactly missed a hatful of chances. Only 3 players to have scored, yes it's still early so I'm not to despondent but we're far from firing at the minute.

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On the flip side, we've conceded one goal which every L2 GK saves 99/100. I think (and hope) we'll concede less than 50 goals this season.

We gifted a team who were playing for a draw a goal that gave them the lead. It's the kind of game where if we scored first, we win in a manner similar to Notts County. I wasn't there on Saturday, but that's how the game seemed to have panned out.

CCFC88 said:

You're trying to argue against facts. It doesn't matter who scored and how, to say "were yet to hit goal scoring form" is just false. We scored 5 in the first two games and then had a game where things just didn't click against a team who parked the bus for 35 mins.

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I'm not arguing anything... my opinion is I feel we're yet to hit true goal scoring form. I don't feel we've been that huge a threat with every attack. Just my opinion of them 5 goals we scored. That's gonna change hopefully as we grow as a team and after a few games.

You differ in your opinion, that's football and it's fine with me.

steve82 said:

2 changes for me...
---------------O'Brien---------------
Grimmer--Willis---McDonald--Stokes
----------Doyle(c)----Kelly-----------
--Vincenti-----Andreu------Nazon--
--------------McNulty-------------

Subs: Burge, Pearson, Hyam, Stevenson, JJ, Thomas, Beavon.

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Put Hyam in for Willis and that's the team I'd pick.

steve82 said:

I'm not arguing anything....

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You were but now you've backed down.

I hope we hit our goal scoring form where we score 80 in a season, not one player can score more than 2 in a game, no headers are allowed and if its an oppositions mistake then it doesn't count. That's my kind of goal scoring form.

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You were but now you've backed down.

I hope we hit our goal scoring form where we score 80 in a season, not one player can score more than 2 in a game, no headers are allowed and if its an oppositions mistake then it doesn't count. That's my kind of goal scoring form.

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I ain't backing down in anything.

My opinion still stands. You disagree, that's your call and your in your right to on a opinion based topic.

But look at it from another way. There's calls for Beavon to be dropped and McNulty to be pushed forwards to enhance or chances of goals. Andreu to be put in because there is concerns we're lacking creativity. If everything is going so well why would some sections be looking to make changes.

To me we're yet to hit some attacking form and also true goal scoring form where we look dangerous on every attack.

steve82 said:

I ain't backing down in anything.

My opinion still stands. You disagree, that's your call and your in your right to on a opinion based topic.

But look at it from another way. There's calls for Beavon to be dropped and McNulty to be pushed forwards to enhance or chances of goals. Andreu to be put in because there is concerns we're lacking creativity. If everything is going so well why would some sections be looking to make changes.

To me we're yet to hit some attacking form and also true goal scoring form where we look dangerous on every attack.

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Maybe not, but if we could go into games knowing we won't concede, and if we do it'll be no more than 1 goal, that takes a lot of pressure off the team. So far, we've played well defensively minor 1 goalkeeping howler - on a positive note, we kept Nouble quiet who was in a hit of form. Defensively, I'm still very happy, 4 goals on target in 3 games is a great return. We had incredible attack under Pressley, but for all the goals we scored, we were never completely safe from a comeback. The goals dried up, and our form dipped.

I'm not too concerned about attack this year per se. I've had a look at the last 4 seasons very briefly and one thing struck me the most: if you concede less 46 goals in a season, you are guaranteed a playoff spot (bar one team). Often the best defence gets in and around the top 3. As noted many times on this forum, the top goalscorer of 2 of the top 3 didn't hit 15 goals last season. Also, I'll bring your attention to this interesting example in the 14/15 season, Cambridge scored 61 goals - more than Bury, who came 3rd (60) - yet came 19th. In fact, they scored 6 and 8 goals less than the top 2. The difference? Amazing defence, the top 2 had incredible records defensively (39 and 31 conceded) whilst Cambridge conceded 66.

My point is: defence appears to be the most important ingredient in a L2 promotion team. So our defence is key, not attack.

Mucca Mad Boys said:

Maybe not, but if we could go into games knowing we won't concede, and if we do it'll be no more than 1 goal, that takes a lot of pressure off the team. So far, we've played well defensively minor 1 goalkeeping howler - on a positive note, we kept Nouble quiet who was in a hit of form. Defensively, I'm still very happy, 4 goals on target in 3 games is a great return. We had incredible attack under Pressley, but for all the goals we scored, we were never completely safe from a comeback. The goals dried up, and our form dipped.

I'm not too concerned about attack this year per se. I've had a look at the last 4 seasons very briefly and one thing struck me the most: if you concede less 46 goals in a season, you are guaranteed a playoff spot (bar one team). Often the best defence gets in and around the top 3. As noted many times on this forum, the top goalscorer of 2 of the top 3 didn't hit 15 goals. Also, I'll bring your attention to this interesting example in the 14/15 season, Cambridge scored 61 goals - more than Bury, who came 3rd (60) - yet came 19th. In fact, they scored 6 and 8 goals less than the top 2. The difference? Amazing defence, the top 2 had incredible records defensively (39 and 31 conceded).

My point is: defence appears to be the most important ingredient in a L2 promotion team. So our defence is key, not attack.

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Yes, we'll wrote I agree with that. Defensively we look organised and solid. Something we've lacked for a while and it's great to see.
Mcdonald looks a real capture, calm, composed and strong. Looks useful in the air too.

Like yourself early in the summer I did look into previous years to see what the league needs and what statistically suggests will get you up and your right. Defensively strong teams naturally do well.

I've only a few minor concerns at this stage as to how we will fare over the winter months but MR is in the early stages of getting the team to play how he sees fit to hopefully bounce back.

Early signs are good tho.

Mucca Mad Boys said:

Maybe not, but if we could go into games knowing we won't concede, and if we do it'll be no more than 1 goal, that takes a lot of pressure off the team. So far, we've played well defensively minor 1 goalkeeping howler - on a positive note, we kept Nouble quiet who was in a hit of form. Defensively, I'm still very happy, 4 goals on target in 3 games is a great return. We had incredible attack under Pressley, but for all the goals we scored, we were never completely safe from a comeback. The goals dried up, and our form dipped.

I'm not too concerned about attack this year per se. I've had a look at the last 4 seasons very briefly and one thing struck me the most: if you concede less 46 goals in a season, you are guaranteed a playoff spot (bar one team). Often the best defence gets in and around the top 3. As noted many times on this forum, the top goalscorer of 2 of the top 3 didn't hit 15 goals. Also, I'll bring your attention to this interesting example in the 14/15 season, Cambridge scored 61 goals - more than Bury, who came 3rd (60) - yet came 19th. In fact, they scored 6 and 8 goals less than the top 2. The difference? Amazing defence, the top 2 had incredible records defensively (39 and 31 conceded).

My point is: defence appears to be the most important ingredient in a L2 promotion team. So our defence is key, not attack.

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I've been thinking the same for a while. My only worry is when was the last time a CCFC team was solid and dependable at the back, I can't remember one. Even Robins' first time around we shipped loads of stupid late goals.