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YES

Yes, the FA got the final they wanted.
If our goal had been the other way it would have stood for them.
Just amazed me that it only took a minute for VAR to disallow it and things that close normally a lot longer.

Yep 100%

Yes

Cheated by cock up: Yes
VAR is very flawed. Margin for error must be given and seen to be given.
Cheated by conspiracy: No

100% cheated without doubt. The timing of the goal meant no chance for Utd to recover. They couldn’t have that.

No

No

For me it wasn't a handball for our penalty and if the FA really wanted Man Utd to get to the final they would've overruled the penalty handball

Whilst I agree VAR is for clear and obvious errors the issue is the rules rather than cheating by officials

Time to move on

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It was a perfectly good goal. VAR is flawed.

Yes

I still want the audio. Particularly after seeing the Spurs ‘that line looks about right’ nonsense.

I don’t think it was a conspiracy, but I think I think VAR intervened for intervening sake. The footage is massively inconclusive and thus they should have proceeded with the onfield decision. Would be so interested to hear the audio of the decision being made, and the video they used to analyse.

The conspiracy theories are absolute nonsense. As others have said if they really didn’t want us to make the final they’d have never given us the pen the in 91st min of the game.

Cheated by trying to follow the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law. Cheated by inadequate equipment saying Wright was an inch off side when it isn't capable of delivering such accuracy.

SeaSeeEffCee said:

The conspiracy theories are absolute nonsense. As others have said if they really didn’t want us to make the final they’d have never given us the pen the in 91st min of the game.

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Last time I checked the referee gave that one.

Purely for transparency the audio footage should be released in addition to the visual image that was used . What I still can't come to terms with is that the ref , linesman and 4th official deemed it a goal . Where is there any suspicion of a clear and obvious error ?
It's done now but remains without further explanation a baffling decision .

Let's not forget that they contrived to keep the Manchester teams apart in the semi-finals (and all rounds up to then as well).

It was a penalty
It was a goal
Some people seem to be trying to introduce the penalty decision as their own coping mechanism for an appalling and suspect intervention!

No.

Depends what you mean by "cheated"?

Victim of a bad decision made using technology that isn't really fit for purpose? Yes

Victim of a conspiracy to make sure there was an all Manchester final? Nah and stop being so Sunderland.

David O'Day said:

Depends what you mean by "cheated"?

Victim of a bad decision made using technology that isn't really fit for purpose? Yes

Victim of a conspiracy to make sure there was an all Manchester final? Nah and stop being so Sunderland.

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Conspiracy talk is of course wrong, but very interested to see how a decision apparently this marginal was made so quickly by comparison to the 5 minutes they spent trying to disallow Simms' goal in the QF. Which eventually stood as they couldn't tell.

Brighton Sky Blue said:

Last time I checked the referee gave that one.

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So the conspiracy theory is that the VAR officials didn’t want us to qualify for the final but they didn’t let the onfield referee in on their plot leaving them completely powerless when it came to decisions he made? They also didn’t even bother trying to send him to the screen on the off chance he might overturn it?

Deffo would have been a goal if United had of scored it....
I rest my case.

Yes but there’s no conspiracy here, just arseholes.

The current VAR system isn’t capable of the levels of accuracy that the officials are utilizing it for. So, knowing the technology has room for error, only arseholes would use it to decide fine margins.

SeaSeeEffCee said:

So the conspiracy theory is that the VAR officials didn’t want us to qualify for the final but they didn’t let the onfield referee in on their plot leaving them completely powerless when it came to decisions he made? They also didn’t even bother trying to send him to the screen on the off chance he might overturn it?

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Directly above I’ve dismissed talk of a ‘conspiracy’.

skyblue1991 said:

No

For me it wasn't a handball for our penalty and if the FA really wanted Man Utd to get to the final they would've overruled the penalty handball

Whilst I agree VAR is for clear and obvious errors the issue is the rules rather than cheating by officials

Time to move on

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By letter of the law, it was handball. Was it intentional? No, was it harsh, yes but if the ball strikes the arm or hand, it’s handball. The rule is wrong.

YES!
All about global interests/TV money.
That’s where the ‘game’ has gone.
Anybody who believes otherwise should look around…..at every single walk of life.
Why would footy be any different?

Brighton Sky Blue said:

Conspiracy talk is of course wrong, but very interested to see how a decision apparently this marginal was made so quickly by comparison to the 5 minutes they spent trying to disallow Simms' goal in the QF. Which eventually stood as they couldn't tell.

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VAR have just spent about two and a half minutes ruling on a pritty obvious offside in the West Ham/Liverpool, retrospectively it seems strange it was ruled out so quick when it was so tight.

Bad Boy said:

Just a simple YES or NO, who still thinks we were cheated out of our victory last Sunday.
I'm still fuming, so that's a big fat YES from me.
Oh fuck it, it ain't going to make a difference.

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Yes. THE DAY WEMBLEY STOOD STILL.

I refuse to vote until the question is corrected.

rob9872 said:

I refuse to vote until the question is corrected.

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Your vote is important, I've changed it just for you

Ashdown said:

100% cheated without doubt. The timing of the goal meant no chance for Utd to recover. They couldn’t have that.

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Exactly this.

skyblue1991 said:

No

For me it wasn't a handball for our penalty and if the FA really wanted Man Utd to get to the final they would've overruled the penalty handball

Whilst I agree VAR is for clear and obvious errors the issue is the rules rather than cheating by officials

Time to move on

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I haven't seen replay yet, but it looked clear handball from our end. Was more shocked it was given, rather than if it was/wasn't a pen.