"Sisu Out" a good thing? (1 Viewer)

SonOfSnoz

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Hate to say it folks, but Sisu love all the publicity!
Did anyone hear of this hedge fund prior to them buying our club?
CCFC has been a great investment for Sisu, despite what we think!
Also, Hoff is just as a key player!
He is director of Trinity Mirror & his mate Richard Keys, Talksport presenter.
Everytime the club gets media attention, Sisu love it because it opens the way for potential investors!
Why else does Hoff always come out with huge statements?
Why not sit in his mate, Cardoza's flashy suite to watch the match, rather than on the hill with City fans, cos that wont make the news!
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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I totally agree if I was an investor i would say now there is a company that could really look after my money because Ive always wanted to sleep on a park bench
 

bigfatronssba

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Does anyone remember the film Brewster's Millions?

Sisu could offer a great service to anyone in the lead characters situation.
 

Astute

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SISU out is much better than SISU in
 

Tonylinc

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Hate to say it folks, but Sisu love all the publicity!
Did anyone hear of this hedge fund prior to them buying our club?
CCFC has been a great investment for Sisu, despite what we think!
Also, Hoff is just as a key player!
He is director of Trinity Mirror & his mate Richard Keys, Talksport presenter.
Everytime the club gets media attention, Sisu love it because it opens the way for potential investors!
Why else does Hoff always come out with huge statements?
Why not sit in his mate, Cardoza's flashy suite to watch the match, rather than on the hill with City fans, cos that wont make the news!
Are you real? Any investor looking at how they have "managed", our club would run a mile!
 

RFC

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB
 

valiant15

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB

Fuck off.
 

Tonylinc

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB
A perspective very put but do you really believe that Shitzu will build a stadium anywhere near Coventry or even at all?
 

Steve.B50

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB

RFC
I understand your views and although I do not agree with your comments I do respect them.
Surely you must accept your a minority and that most want our present owners to leave and very few are going o hanger here minds.
However, I like you think they are here or the long haul, no idea why but they may well be staying, personally I would rather we had a change but if they stay then so be it.
What I do not agree with or what does not make any sense at is the new stadium, I can never see that happening and if it did where and under what terms?
Investors would want a return and that would mean high rent. Also what size ground, cannot be to big due to cost and location but we need to be ambitious and aim for Premiership ( I know its a dream) but we have to aim for that again.
SISU will never win back the full fan base its to late, but they would get some fans back if they moved back to the Ricoh. It's obvious not a money issue as they have shown the FL they have funds.
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Delboycov

Active Member
Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB

I respect your completely deluded viewpoint :D If I was going to support a team "wherever they play" though I might as well support a successful one. I support Coventry City because of the Coventry bit in the name. Having said that I probably respect you more for including the words "the current under-current"...you don't see that very often in a sentence! The points you're making about the focus being misplaced don't make any sense to me....they said they would move us out of our city and they have....you imply that is a positive thing as it shows they don't feck around. Is that supposed to fill anyone with confidence about them being custodians of our club? I certainly don't think so because in many fan's eyes they have pressed the self destruct button by doing that. They said they'd build a new stadium.......and erm...they haven't even got an agreed site yet and if they ever get planning permission anywhere "in the Coventry area" I would be very, very surprised. Personally I believe they have no intention of building 'Arena Tinpot'...Just as firmly as you believe otherwise. As for you stating " Owners are definitely not the issue "...I think you'll find probably all supporters think that they are and it would be completely barking given the current state of our club and the culpability of our owners in putting us where we are to think otherwise. There is blame on all sides and where fans disagree is over the degree of responsibility of those parties. NOPM ....whilst we play our 'home' games outside the city I was born and am so proud of.
 

italiahorse

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB

What a load of toss !!
 
J

Jack Griffin

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB

What a poor grasp of the facts, I fear RFC lives in a fantasy world all of his own.
NB We aren't at home this season, home is in Coventry.
 

cloughie

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go (so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play. Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium (FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium and I truly believe they will (unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO but we're ALL entitled to our own view.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad. Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.

Owners are definitely not the issue here and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB


WHAT AN ARESHOLE YOU ARE

You have even got me swearing

Success for a wum
 

James Smith

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Owners just like managers, players & grounds (stadiums or arens's) come and go
Such a shame then that SISU are still here, I wish they'd sold up ages ago.

(so do Councils & Arena operators) but SUPPORTERS are always in it for the long haul, LIFE!
You're right Supporters are in it for the long haul, most just didn't think it would mean a long haul trip to watch our 'Home' matches. At the moment it feels like a life sentence for me and possibly for many fans which might be another reason why they're not going to watch the team at Sixfields.

What that means to me is supporting the TEAM, wherever they play.
I think the majority still support the team, though some fans sadly will have given up when we were moved to Northampton and for how long peoples patience lasts is another thing. It appears though (given the attendance for 'Home' matches that the majority don't support the move to Sixfields and therefore won't be attending any 'Home' matches there. I hear there are cheaper stadium rents going in Spain what with all the economic problems over there so if we move there no worries for you?

Of course like the majority I'd prefer that to be in Coventry but circumstances are what they are and long term we as a club need to buy and own our own stadium
So now you think we should buy and not build our own stadium? Tim's not gonna like that he's got his heart set on The White Elephant Stadium he's had plans drawn up and is looking at land everyday I hope. SISU had the opportunity to buy the management firm controlling the Ricoh and chose not to, that ship has sailed though apparently.

(FIFA Fair Play Rules, based on GROSS INCOME).
Which makes the reason why we've been moved to a smaller stadium miles from where the majority of supporters live, where the owners have had to lower ticket prices to compensate and have a FAR LOWER INCOME as a result even more baffling.

The focus from the majority is miss-placed because our current owners have kept our club going, said they'd move out of the Ricoh and have done so, also said they'd build a new stadium
Wait so we're now back on with the White Elephant Stadium? Okay that's better as I thought for a second we might be looking at purchasing Nene Park or even Sixfields.

and I truly believe they will
Good for you, it's faith like that they're exploiting trying to lure people to go into Sixfields. Have you seen some plans or anything that remotely indicates that they're actually going to do this because a lot of our supporters have seen diddly squat.

(unless of course some sort if agreement on the Ricoh can be reached but personally I can't see it).
Well that's what happens when you withhold rent and take out legal proceedings against one of the owners of the place where you're based rather than negotiate first.

Those not going to Sixfields are "missing-out" IMHO
Yes but the point is that SISU are "missing-out" on the revenue those supporters would otherwise be giving them because we're not playing in Coventry. As a supporter the major weapon that you have in a situation like this appears to be a financial one. As SISU only seem to understand money - or the lack of it in this case - witholding it via NOPM seem to be the only way we can make them come to their senses.

but we're ALL entitled to our own view.
I hear the view from the hill outside Sixfields isn't bad and you can see over two thirds of the pitch without needing to give SISU anything, if you do decide to travel to Sixfields.

The negativity surrounding my club has existed for many more years than I care to remember but suddenly things have changed, driven by Steven Pressley and his very exiting young squad.
The results on the pitch are indeed very good and I can't think there can be a Sky Blues fan who isn't cheering every goal that goes in. It's just that it's a bit early to be popping champagne corks just yet, as someone else said they don't decide final league places after a handful of games

Either you buy into and help build a much more positive future for our club
Can't get very positive about the future when we're homeless playing at a far lower capacity ground that is over thirty miles from our home city of Coventry and have seen nothing concrete (pun intended) to say that we're going to come back anytime soon.

or, you may well be helping to bring on it's demise IMHO!
And you are welcome to your opinion.

My biggest fear is that the current under-current may eventually effect the team on the pitch, sadly and force our owners to totally 'liquidate' the club.
As would be their choice, however if they thought that there was a negative public image and perception of their Hedge Fund business and negativity towards them before this season started if they liquidated us that's only going to increase.

Owners are definitely not the issue here
Really, okay great could they hurry up and sell up please and we can then get someone who cares enough to give up the NOPM to ACL and actually pay rent whilst negotiating to buy ACL.

and to be honest I'm totally fed-up with all the politics but when the truth does eventually come out I think ACL (who've been used as a 'political football) by the other protagonists COVENTRY CITY COUNCIL and I eagerly await future developments
I'm sure there was a sentence in there somewhere and I think I understand what you're saying (although could you please clarify it for me?), I don't agree with it but that's just my opinion. I await the future developments on the Judicial Review application although I'm already fed up with Judicial Reviews. You'd have thought SISU would have got the message that the council didn't act improperly when the Judge said in his reasons for refusing permission for a Judicial review that:

Mr Justice Males said:
"I am not persuaded that there is an arguable case that the loan by the council constituted an unlawful state aid.

"It was made on commercial terms, in order to protect the council's investment in ACL, in circumstances where ACL's bank was threatening to hold ACL in default.

"The alternatives would appear to have been either the insolvency of ACL which (largely because the claimants had caused rent to be withheld as a means of exerting pressure in the commercial negotiations, which had led to an unsatisfied judgment of the High Court in ACL's favour) was not in a position to pay the loan, or acceptance of the claimants' proposals which the council did not consider to be in its commercial interests.

"It is clear from public statements made by members of the council, in particular councillor Mutton, that at least some members (of the council) have a strong animosity towards the claimants.

"However, I do not accept that this demonstrates that the council made its decision to offer a loan to ACL for an improper purpose or in bad faith.

"Its purpose was the legitimate commercial purpose of protecting investment in ACL.

"The claim that the decision was ultra vires (unlawful) is dependent on a showing of an improper purpose and therefore has no independent life once it is determined that the council's purpose was not improper."
Sadly it appears that SISU didn't get the message and have lodged an appeal against that decision.

but in the meantime PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE support Steven, the lads and the most entertaining football I've witnessed at home for 15 to 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUSB
Don't get me wrong I (and hopefully all our fans) do support the Team and the Manager, although I won't be going to Sixfields (even if I can) to support them as that's not in our home City where we should be playing our home fixtures this season. I take my lunch break on a Saturday and Sunday from 3-4pm so that I can listen to 5 live on my radio and watch the BBC live text of our games, I wear my Keep Coventry in Coventry wristband every day despite it being against the approved dress code where I work. As always I wish the Manager and the Team every success and I hope that they understand why we're not going to see them at NTFC.

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I used to wonder who voted for the raving looney party . Now I know. Sun of snoz and rfc . Just keep ignoring the facts guys .james smith , I could not agree more with your balanced and logical response . Shitsu out !!!
 

SonOfSnoz

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I used to wonder who voted for the raving looney party . Now I know. Sun of snoz and rfc . Just keep ignoring the facts guys .james smith , I could not agree more with your balanced and logical response . Shitsu out !!!

Wanda's not into politics & neither am I!
Don't know this RFC, but agree with most they say!

& it's SON not SUN ;)
 

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