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that would depend if he put them against the post...

Wake up? I don't entirely blame Thorn for relegation, he played a small part but so did a lot of others, things arent black and white so maybe you should 'wake up' and stop being so pretentious

If this squad finishes high up I think thorn deserves some praise considering its a team he assembled

So you have no thoughts based on our squad? It all rests on the manager?

So with the recent news, what are everyones new expectations givent that we may not be able to get more than 1 player in. Personally I think we will get playoffs, but it won't be easy given our situation with sisu and our poor ability to keep players fit

Remember when we sold Ben turner after his massive injury and he turned out crap for Cardiff? Stop writing this guy off before he's played for us, jeez

I do wonder why any players sign for us at all sometimes given the lack of faith our fans have slating players more than they praise. I seem to recall the beginning of last season people saying how shit juke was and that he'd never bag more than 10-15 goals in a season, I remember people...

Just like we replaced everyone one else...

i put the red card down to his frustration of being relegated

i was surprised at the football today, i was expecting fight after what he said, no idea what happened

youre a clueless twat

It's threads like these that bring me back to ABs time in charge just before Xmas and how we were sitting pretty high, and fans like some on here were crying out saying "we don't want winning football, we want to see good passing football" then we lost our midfield and AB got thrown out for 10...

I don't blame thorn for us losing games that were out of his control, missed pens, injury time winners etc (how can he do anything about those?) he knows his players better than we do and most thorn supporters admit he has been tactically naive in a few games and made a few bad decisions...

I can't believe half the bullshit on these forums, I sometimes feel like we all watch different teams every week and that some people on here don't even grasp the concept of talent and growth.

he has made bad decisions, granted, but some things have been way out of his control. as crazy as it sounds, some people actually like the company we work for, regardless of the strain it puts on us...

i agree macca, we've been on a steady decline for the last 10 years, unfortunately our club has made bad decision after bad decision. I personally love the Ricoh Arena, it's a great ground... when its 3/4 full, but we've hardly ever pulled those numbers, and we wont for the foreseeable future...

then maybe you don't have what it takes to be a leader or a football manager. Leaders take the strain regardless, he cares for the club, he's been here for years. but he finally had enough, theres only so much you can do, so much you can take before it breaks you. and fans like mumford crying...

He has done all season, he's even shielded his players and not blamed any one player bar bigi (which I think he went too far). But I guess he's scrutinised if he does and if he doesnt, hell even fans wanted him gone even if he did keep us up... I just don't understand our fans

It's called finally having enough with all the crap he's been given throughout the season, at least he didn't go all out on them, I'm guessing he's leaving that until the end of the season when he's given his post sacking interview.

that doesnt mean thats what the player was worth though, i guess its up to sisu on how much we sell our assets for though