Mark Sampson

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  1. skybluegod

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    Good players do have shit games?
     
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    It's now saying he was sacked, not that he has left, so clearly there is something too it.
     
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    # PrayForDele
     
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    I asked my father in law who has seen quite a bit and he thinks she is poor having watched a couple of games I cat get into it
     
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    They were travelling to the game from Nigeria where there had been an outbreak. That 2nd comment i've not read but it does sound dodgy. I even get the issue over the Lukaku chant as it's a racial stereotype but that Ebola comment just sounds like a shit joke to me.
     
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    Apparently new information regarding the investigation along with new evidence has been given to the FA.
    Bit early to say I told you so ;) but seriously will be interesting to find out what the new evidence is. And just shows that the FA is run so poorly, with a lack of action at the time of the initial claim.
     
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    Maybe Southgate could take over so the men's te can be rid of the failure
     
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    I suppose it depends on the context of how he said it which I guess we will never know.
     
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    Still angry the Sam was sacked.
     
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    It's probably had to go through ten committees before the comment
     
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    Not bothered about Sam but it is the top job being done by a yes man who has had a whole career of failure and is famous for missing a penalty also a former villa scum bag who made comments about Coventry
     
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    Ha, you really are a miserable sod at times!
    What comments did he make about Cov?
     
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    F off not at times all the time think it was something about it being a good place to drive through or past. He also missed that penalty and then made money from the pizza ad
     
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    Couldn't care less about the villa scumbag shit and the Coventry comments be childish to hold a grudge over that.
    But I completely agree about his career and giving it to a yes man.
    It seems to be a thing throughout the set up I mean for god sake. Boothroyd as u21's manager he got sacked in league 2 his last job before that. And it's these men bringing our best talent through and being expected to succeed really.

    The Sam thing annoys me because he had actually aren't the job, he has always achieved the results expected of him at clubs, and he might not have had us playing pretty, but he would of had us winning games of football
     
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    Boothroyd is a truely bizarre appointment
     
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    Sacked because of behaviour in a previous role obviously been digging around to get him.
     
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    Or make sure they don't bring Adebola
     
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    Because they're black, or because they're from Africa ?
     
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    Yep from his time at Bristol academy, with regards to safeguarding there!
    Apparently still investigations the Aluko situation, but they must be worried about it if as you say they have been digging around 4 years after his appointment?
     
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    I don't know I'm not him am i?
     
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    Can they sack you for something in a previous role ? I suppose if he didn't disclose it.
     
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    I know, I'm just making the point that he could have meant it either way.
     
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    Probably started digging once this all started as they will have wanted something on him.

    All this getting women's football into the public eye just not in a good way unfortunately
     
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    Depends what it was I guess.
     
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    This is just getting weirder. This new stuff is nothing to do with racism or bullying as was being claimed perviously. This is safeguarding which given it concerns a time when he was manager of an U18 side opens a lot of questions. But then if you look at the quote from the FA it makes even less sense:
    So, as with the current allegations, there was an investigation and no action taken. This investigation would have been known to the FA when they gave him the England job.

    The obvious questions is who has been digging into his past and why along with if this was investigated at the time and not an issue how can he be sacked from a different job for it now?
     
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    I don't think anyone is saying it is impossible for their to be bullying or racism in womens football. More that its a bit odd that a player who wasn't even present when the alleged offence occurred decided to bring it up 18 months later. And of course the fact that the meeting in question was videoed and the tape has been looked at by a barrister who decided it wasn't worth investigating any further as, from the recording of the meeting, the incident clearly didn't happen.
     
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    Or maybe they like the odd skeleton in the cupboard to help with removal later on.

    This sounds like it could really damage his future.
     
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    Sounds as if he shagged a player
     
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    Yeah just read this and thought similar, sounds like he had a relationship or something with one of them?
     
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    Thats what it sounds like but what does 'There are different allegations about different things which is why we’re talking in the plural, some could be categorised as trivial and some as very serious.', different girls?

    Seems very odd that this would have been known about, investigated and then him not only cleared to continue but given the England job.
     
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    There was a Scottish nurse who came back home with it also.
     
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    Not odd at all! Remember Jimmy Savile? This is par for the course, the powerful are believed, the powerless are not.
    He's gone and good riddance. Let's hope they can find a good manager to replace him. Preferably a woman.
     
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    That's what i mean though... his indescretion should have been met with a punishment short of a full sacking.
     
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    You live in a very binary world, everything either seems to be fantastic or terrible.

    This is, we are told, nothing to do with the bullying allegations.
    Something just seems off with the whole thing. Put yourself in Sampson's situation. In your old job you were accused of something, it was investigated and you were cleared. Its never been mentioned since.
    You've moved to a new job where your employer is aware of the past allegation. There are two new allegations on a separate issue. Both are investigated and you are cleared.
    You're then sacked from your current job over an issue at your old job which has had no further investigation since you were cleared. Seem fair?

    How can someone be sacked over a safeguarding issue but then free to continue the same job elsewhere? If the safeguarding issue stacks up then surely he's now a risk?
     
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    That was a proper stitch up. Even the FA admitted what he said was 'a factual, correct statement around the laws of the English game and having third-party ownership'.
     

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