Oh Jeremy Corbyn (2 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

He's not PM is he and even on the latest polls wouldn't be as he'd need a 7% swing - still facts above rhetoric eh.

Going by the last polls for a general election that should guarantee him a landslide victory then.

 

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[Grendel]

The reporting on this has been shockingly bad even by the poor standard of our news media. To go from looking at multiple unlikely scenarios, including world war, huge natural disasters, major terrorism shutting down London etc, and from that publish headlines that Labour is planning for a run on the pound if they are elected, the clear implication being that Labour are expecting the economy to crash if they are elected, is poor to say the least by anyones standards.

Yes Dave of course.

Meanwhile many labour members are banned from the conference and the BBC political editor has to have a bodyguard.

Frankly if you don't understand the pound would disintegrate overnight then your delusional. Personally I'd love 15% interest rates - guess you would to

 

[Sick Boy]

Er no he hasn't and like all socialists hates the concept.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/07/jeremy-corbyn-wholesale-eu-immigration-has-destroyed-conditions-british?amp

Jeremy Corbyn does not 'believe' in ending free movement after Brexit, leading Momentum activist claims

 

[Sick Boy]

He's not PM is he and even on the latest polls wouldn't be as he'd need a 7% swing - still facts above rhetoric eh.

After your last 'nailed on' predictions, I'm not convinced.

 

[Grendel]

After your last 'nailed on' predictions, I'm not convinced.

Well he lost

 

[Grendel]

Jeremy Corbyn does not 'believe' in ending free movement after Brexit, leading Momentum activist claims

I'm afraid you are showing an embarrassing lack of knowledge regarding the type of politician Mr Corbyn is

British jobs for British workers.

 

[Philosorapter]

one of the problems of any socialist is our individual attacks come under attack left, right and centre so to speak.

This presumed consent for organ donation is another crazy idea. A good idea in principle but how close is it to being against our individual rights?

You could not fit a cigarette paper between the two.

With any luck, Geoffrey Robinson's half baked idea will be thrown to the side and some money spent on advertising to people the organ donation scheme instead of forcing it on everyone.

 

[Sick Boy]

I'm afraid you are showing an embarrassing lack of knowledge regarding the type of politician Mr Corbyn is

British jobs for British workers.

I didn't realise Gordon Brown was anti-immigration as well?

 

[Sick Boy]

Well he lost

I thought it was a guaranteed blood bath?

 

[Grendel]

I didn't realise Gordon Brown was anti-immigration as well?

He's not a socialist

Tell me what is his record on EU voting?

 

[Sick Boy]

He's not a socialist

Yes I know, it was in reference to your slogan. Unless it's your new BNP-inspired signature?

 

[Grendel]

Yes I know, it was in reference to your slogan. Unless it's your new BNP-inspired signature?

You really are the Sky blue john of politics

 

[Sick Boy]

You really are the Sky blue john of politics

In that case you are the Dongle!

 

[mrtrench]

You would think that a man who recognises none of the constraints of the real world could come up with some more imaginative stuff than that.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Yes Dave of course.

Meanwhile many labour members are banned from the conference and the BBC political editor has to have a bodyguard.

Frankly if you don't understand the pound would disintegrate overnight then your delusional. Personally I'd love 15% interest rates - guess you would to

Why does she need a bodyguard

 

[Grendel]

Why does she need a bodyguard

Threats of violence from the momentum campaign. The same people who said in response to a labour MP who said the left wing men are more sexist than their Tory counterparts threatened her on social media with rape but said she was fat, ugly and probably having her period.

Free thinkers aren't they?

 

[Nick]

I think anybody who sings his name in the style of white stripes should instantly mean the nearest person can twat them in the face.

I saw somebody with a "football flag" with his name on.

What is the world coming to?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He is going to do everything & let future generations pay for it.

Seems now that my generation is paying for your generation fucking the economy 10 years ago. So much for the unfettered free marketing of Thatcher and Blair.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You would think that a man who recognises none of the constraints of the real world could come up with some more imaginative stuff than that.

I personally don't mind Jeremy corbyn per se, he speaks honestly and he knows what he wants and I think that's a good thing. He is a proper lefty. That's great. I just have two major problems personally :

1. He voted against every EU treaty for 30 years and then backed remain in the EU ref. Sorry but that's good enough for me.

2. His policies seem decent to me and probably a lot of people but his finances don't always add up and I don't want my kids paying for it in years to come like has been shown. So nice in theory but not always very practical.

And yet we are still heavily in deficit despite the Tories granting more gifts to the wealthiest in society. It is a question of priorities and one would think that education would be a great way of reducing our reliance on foreign labour.

Where has cutting everything for 7 years got us?

 

[skybluedan]

Thought it was a good speech.

• Promise to close gender pay gap
• On the "threshold of power"
• Labour is government in waiting
• "Outstanding" Shadow Cab - even I'm not sure about that one
• Peace and justice at heart of foreign policy
• Build a new relationship with Europe
• Labour ready, Tories not, they're not strong or stable
• Tories hanging on by their fingertips
• Tories have tracked down the magic money tree
• Homelessness doubled under Tories
• 20K fewer police, 11K fewer fire fighters
• Condemned by United Nations over disability rights
• Asks Tories to end austerity, abolish tuition fees, scrap public sector pay cap (yeah!!)
• Labour election campaign "primed and ready to go"
• Tory election campaign "nasty and personal"
• Tory's are messing up Brexit. Our future is under threat
• Tory "trio" have got nowhere with negotiations
• Labour is the only party that can unite Brexiteers and Remainers
• Cliff edge Brexit will become real under Tories
• Britain's future at risk under Conservatives
• Labour will repair damage to economy, due to austerity
• Utilities back into public ownership - stop the public being ripped off
• Create a national savings bank
• Ask big business to pay more tax
• Labour launching a review of social housing policy
• Stop cuts to social security
• Free tuition. No one held back by costs
• Trump speech at UN "disturbing"
• 2017 - year when politics finally caught up with crash of 2008
• Labour is the political mainstream
• Labour manifesto and policies are popular as that what people want
• Labour is the champion of social justice

Nothing about freeing the weed torch?

 

[Sick Boy]

Threats of violence from the momentum campaign. The same people who said in response to a labour MP who said the left wing men are more sexist than their Tory counterparts threatened her on social media with rape but said she was fat, ugly and probably having her period.

Free thinkers aren't they?

Weird that you haven't said any of this about the abuse that Abbot receives?

 

[clint van damme]

And yet we are still heavily in deficit despite the Tories granting more gifts to the wealthiest in society. It is a question of priorities and one would think that education would be a great way of reducing our reliance on foreign labour.

Where has cutting everything for 7 years got us?

a down grading in our credit rating.

 

[Sick Boy]

a down grading in our credit rating.

Isn't it 2 now?

 

[mrtrench]

- free iPad for every albino
- every day to be the first day of spring
- a new nationalised chain of not for profit supermarkets.
- new mini.in wage of 40,000 per year. Maximum wage of 50,000.
- ten new Harry Potter books
- paid maternity and paternity leave until youngest child finishes full time education
- price cap on fish and chips.
- islington to become a special economic area
- fully costed, paid by large companies paying just a little bit more.

Also, snow on Christmas morning every year.

 

[Captain Dart]

Seems now that my generation is paying for your generation fucking the economy 10 years ago. So much for the unfettered free marketing of Thatcher and Blair.

Let me see 10 years ago, that was Blair wasn't it, no wait a minute G Brown. Labour were in power from 1997 to 2010, a lot of damage was done then.

 

[mrtrench]

- fifty percent of premier league income to be distributed to other leagues . Five to be promoted from each league but none to go down
- tony Blair to be exiled to middlesborough
- free Pilates classes for all citizens.
- beer coupons, entitling holders to a free pint. Nationalised pubs.
- a bridge to join Liverpool to Dublin to encourage trade
- the poorest in our society to have two weeks holiday each year in Centre parks. Centre parks to be nationalised
- people earning more than maximum wage by working on the sly to be named and shamed.
- one new Monty python film per year for first five years of office.

All plans fully costed. Funded by large companies paying just a little bit more.

 

[mrtrench]

- freedom fighters to be given a seat in government and honoured with statues and street names.
- land to be redistributed through taxation system. Inheritance tax to be 100% to finally take land away from Norman invaders. Land then used by the state to build more houses and cooperative farming communes. Also to build country retreats for party leaders. When not being used, the poorest in our society can use retreats for go cart racing.
- Branson and Dyson to join Blair in middlesborough. And peers Morgan. And other enemies of the people
- illness to be banned. More funding for nhs to enforce new illness legislation.
- voting age reduced to 16. New cap on voting age , initially at 40 (apart from party members).
- National lottery and other gambling banned
- zero crime by 2020. Police force redeployed to removing kittens stuck in trees
- Orwell and other hate writing to be banned
- control gpb inflation and devaluation through linking to the rouble.
- house of lords abolished and replaced by party elders.
- target 100% turnout at elections by 2020. Guaranteed 100% by 2021 after abstainers join Blair, dyson etc.
- National Anthem to be rewritten by Billy Bragg
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All plans fully costed. Funded by large corporations paying just a little bit more.

 

[mrtrench]

Private companies banned. To be funded by private companies paying just a little bit more.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

National Anthem to be rewritten by Billy Bragg

He already wrote it in 1986.

Father mows the lawn and Mother peels the potatoes
Grandma lays the table alone
And adjusts a photograph of the unknown soldier
In this Holy of Holies, the Home
And from the TV an unwatched voice
Suggests the answer is to plant more trees
The scrawl on the wall says what about the workers
And the voice of the people says more salt please

Mother shakes her head and reads aloud from the newspaper
As Father puts another lock on the door
And reflects upon the violent times that we are living in
While chatting with the wife beater next door
If paradise to you is cheap beer and overtime
Home truths are easily missed
Something that every football fan knows
It only takes five fingers to form a fist

And when it rains here It rains so hard
But never hard enough to wash away the sorrow
I'll trade my love today for a greater love tomorrow
The lonely child looks out and dreams of independence
From this family life sentence

Mother sees but does not read the peeling posters
And can't believe that there's a world to be won
But in the public schools and in the public houses
The Battle of Britain goes on
The constant promise of jam tomorrow
Is the New Breed's litany and verse
If it takes another war to fill the churches of England
Then the world the meek inherit, what will it be worth

 

[mrtrench]

Nationalise the press to stop fake news.

 

[Grendel]

Nationalise the press to stop fake news.

That's probably too of their wish list to be fair

 

[skybluegod]

the dollar, and an 8 year low against the Euro.

But you cannot prove that this wouldn't have happened under labour also?

 

[clint van damme]

But you cannot prove that this wouldn't have happened under labour also?

but if the economy was flying you could say the same thing. You couldn't prove it wouldn't have happened if the Monster raving loony party was in charge!

 

[mrtrench]

I think he will become pm. He will achieve enough in 5 years for the Tories to return. What I'm looking forward to most of all is hearing how labour reinvent themselves, talk down the country and blame everything on the Tories next time. I think they will remain hard left now forever.

Edit: it amazes me that they are succeeding in blaming the Tories this time. Such short memories.

 

[skybluegod]

Yes I agree, but the pound was always going to slump straight after the Brexit vote. And even if Labour were in charge with different policies, it wouldn't have dramatically recovered, because until there is a realistic and agreed plan in place in terms of trade, free movement etc, etc. then the economy is pretty much unpredictable.
We don't know if it might have all been better with UKIP in charge