The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

    23 vote(s)
    37.1%
  2. Leave

    35 vote(s)
    56.5%
  3. Undecided

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. martcov

    martcov Well-Known Member

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    Either that or ridiculous. Take your pick. I like the thick as mince description myself.
     
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    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    If there are commitments Barnier will have spilled his guts by now. Of course Britain will honour the commitments within the eu constitution. You're the expert - where's the calculation - if it's zero it's zero
     
  3. Grendel

    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    What's Barnier then? How do you think he is faring?
     
  4. Astute

    Astute Well-Known Member

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    You mean when you twisted what I said as usual.

    And ludicrous was the word she uses to describe you

    Homes target may never be met, warns housing guru
     
  5. skybluetony176

    skybluetony176 Well-Known Member

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    Take your pick. It’s the same in all directions.
     
  6. Grendel

    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    I just want to know what we owe under the eu articles dealing with departure from the union by a formula driven calculation.

    Martcov? Where in the eu legislation is this? I can't find anything?
     
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    skybluetony176 Well-Known Member

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    Yes that’s exactly what I said. When is your Mensa membership being confirmed?
     
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    I didn’t agree the budget or sign off any projects. Maybe you should ask the government as to what they have committed to. As Barnier just did.
     
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    About 27 years ago.

    How about you?
     
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    You won’t. We don’t owe according to some formula. We signed off or voted on agreements such as the budget and various projects. That’s where you have to look. Where voted or signed.
     
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    What did he confirm?

    That no other deals are on the table until we bend over and get shafted by the EU.
     
  12. martcov

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    I thought her figures were from 2004. she warned us then. How many local government housing was built as a result of the warnings?
     
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    We agreed a 3 year budget. That ends in 2 years. Barnier wants many multiples more.
     
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    So you haven't read the article or you won't admit to it.
     
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    No idea if he confirmed any figure. I thought he used the word ‚precise‘ when referring to May‘s speech. Lack of precision. Lot of dodging going on.
     
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    You certainly are dodging.
     
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    I read the one about the report from the woman who now works for Wimpey Houses who said her figures were very old, but the situation is worse now than then. No one acted on her report.
     
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    Isn’t an IQ test supposed to be a measurement of your reasoning and problem solving capabilities? Maybe you just pretending to not understand my plain English post and contrived it to mean something else for fun.
     
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    Worse now than then because of migrants. But as usual you miss out the details.
     
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    He wants what we have committed to. I don’t know what else apart from the budget. Davis should say what we agreed and Barnier should say what he thinks we agreed to. The real figure will be somewhere between the two figures.
     
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    You talk in riddles. My intelligence gives me reasoning. Riddles without a precise result can't be worked out. So I struggle with you.
     
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    I said it is worse. I cannot do a full analysis, but I have already listed some other factors besides migration.
     
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    It is a 2 year budget. So why does he want multiples of what we would pay even without rebates?
     
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    Learnt that from Grendel.
     
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    Read my above post. I don’t know. I don’t know what we have agreed to. Only our government does.
     
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    Still wondering how you would solve homelessness?
     
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    Yes beside migration.

    Lots more housing should have been built. But without migration dor the last 10.years thw homeless number would be well under half that it is now. Yet you and SB say it has nothing to do with it.
     
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    We need about a million new homes. But with EU rules we would need an extra 6 figure number on top each year. We can't plan for the future whilst following EU rules.

    Are you still saying that mass immigration has had no effect on homelessness?
     
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    So, what is your final solution? What shall we do with the migrants?
     
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    But what does Barnier say? The last time we heard they wanted over 100 billions.
     
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    People are coming because of jobs. Less jobs less people.
     
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    You know what I have said. Guarantee status for all migrants here and in the EU.
     
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    That goes up and down. I keep hearing 60 million Euro. But, it is all speculation.
     
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    It took me about 20 attempts to explain to you that we’re going to have to renegotiate a trade deal with India when we leave the EU. You may well have a high IQ but it doesn’t seem to compensate for your lack of common sense and worldly knowledge. You seemed to think that us leaving the EU meant that the EU had to renegotiate their trade terms with India too.
     
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    They are also coming here because the EU has fucked their countries up.
     
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