Wasps & Council conspire again

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  1. oldfiver

    oldfiver Well-Known Member

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    20 acres - say net 15/16 acres developable
    £1m per acre with pp?
     
  2. chiefdave

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    Bit of quick googling shows your in the right ballpark there which implies at that price its been sold by Severn Trent on the basis of it being green belt and not useable for development.
     
  3. lapsed_skyblue

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    But could the have put a condition on the sale that if planning permission was granted that they would get a share of the valuation jump? It would seem a sensible precaution that would not (yet) show up in the sale price, especially as they had already attempted to get planning permission.
    With land development when it comes to planning permission "yes" means "yes" but "no" means not yet or not as the application is currently presented.
     
  4. chiefdave

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    or not until Wasps apply
     
  5. oldfiver

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  6. lapsed_skyblue

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    But did Wasps put in exactly the same application as STW? Maybe they reduced the overall number of houses, increased the percentage of affordable houses, chucked in a road, school, public toilet...
    Councils are under increasing pressure to approve more housing and a minor change might just tip the balance, especially if they think that an appeal to the Government Inspector could well succeed anyway.
     
  7. Nick

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    You would have thought the planning officer would have worked with them to get it through if that was the case? You know, like how they advise Wasps?
     
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  8. jimmyhillsfanclub

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    Hopefully Les is on the blower to Severn Trent as we speak.....

    Go on Les....
     
  9. oldfiver

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    Even things like increasing the amount of social housing can turn it.
     
  11. Rusty Trombone

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    Houses built on mass can be built for a lot cheaper than that
     
  14. chiefdave

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    Wouldn't come as a huge shock if it was CCC of one of the usual suspects.
     
  15. The Gentleman

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    As I just replied to someone mate, houses can be built cheaply these days. They can go up in just a few weeks, just ask Longboy how quick it takes to lay bricks and the roof structures come practically made, it's astonishing. My uncle has a decorating business and they have a machine where they can blanket paint a 5 bed house in a day ready as a blank canvas for people moving in. The same for skimming too, machines to do that which cuts down on such a lot of time.

    I'm sure the council will try to help them. Taking the emotion out of it, as a builder, I am happy the council are helping to get projects like this off the ground. The city needs housing and if it was Joe Bloggs applying to build 240 houses I'm sure it wouldn't get a mention on here. For Wasps it makes good sense and yet another annoyance about our owners inability to even build bridges to sort our future out.
     
  16. Rusty Trombone

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    According to one of the old documents STW do or did.

    'The wider area of land around the application site, which is in the ownership of the applicant, would be made available to the City Council as open space and the area of land running along the river corridor would be retained for nature conservation'.
     
  17. dongonzalos

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    I agree with you. Despite my absolute opposition to Wasps, they have played the game with the council, and seem to be doing things that meets theirs (and the council's) mutual objectives. SISU's lack of imagination beyond court cases looks amateur in comparison.
     
  19. dongonzalos

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    It doesn't look amateur it is!
     
  21. fernandopartridge

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    Yes, fair point.
     
  22. ccfcway

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    don't sisu have the training ground up for sale, helping Rugby council needs for housing and them realising an asset, which is meeting mutual objectives ?
     
  23. tim07

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    Er...that piece of land WAS included on the city plan

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  24. chiefdave

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    Are you sure? Can't check the city plan at the moment.
     
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    Oh okay. H2:9 refers 200 houses. That seems to have risen to 240 since January. The Plan gets updated, it's hardly set in stone.


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  28. rupert_bear

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    Councils all over the country are under orders in reality from central Government to find areas within its boundaries to build housing. About a year ago through my job I drove group of councillors all round the city to various spots at all points of the city. That didn't include Allard Way by the way. Couldn't give a shite now to be honest whether Wasps and CCC are hand in glove or not.
    What I would be interested in though is apart from housing is there enough land at Allard Way to double what is there now plus room for housing, which may give the football club room to add what is required to have an all purpose training centre.
    I was at the Bristol City Acadamy the weekend a superb set up, it's actually a Sports Acadamy including rugby, hockey, indoor facilities and has a small ground about the size of BPA floodlights, stands etc. where Bristol City ladies FC play, I would guess the whole site was double the Higgs site, would probably stretch from where the Acadamy is now down to the London Road.
    The future perhaps ?
     
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  29. skybluejelly

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    Do you drive a normal or bendy bus.?
     
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  30. rupert_bear

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    Councillors don't travel by bus, only in style and that includes me.
     
  31. tim07

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    This looks to be a dried up thread.
    Started well enough with Wasps/CCC conspiracy to buy land and then sell it on for a profit, then someone whispered 'Ryton'

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  32. clint van damme

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    I've heard the same thing about the council from several sources.
     
  33. Otis

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    Yeah, but isn't that throughout history rather than just the last 10 years?
     
  34. clint van damme

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    well I haven't been here for the whole of their history!
    But yeah, people I know who run mainly SMEs and one through work which was with somebody from a large commercial property leasing company.
     

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