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The Reverend Skyblue

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Personally I was really impressed with both our centre backs yesterday.
i loved the way that instead of humping forward the intellegently used either the short ball or the twenty yard ball to feet. Not once did either hump it.
i know Bury were poor but both played really well yesterday
 

dongonzalos

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I don't believe anyone has stated that Cole has cost us a top 2 spot

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No as I see no way we can now be automatic contenders when we were when he joined.

There has been a lot if focus on him and a lot of accommodating him and this has not overall been to the teams benefit.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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That is not specifically blaming Cole,it is a general statement as I read it

If anything our system as a fact changed but you cannot blame Cole it was more about other factors such as Sufc away , injuries and players being unsettled ( fleck Madders and armas future) imho
 

Sick Boy

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How do you work that out? I've never once said that he shouldn't have got the job in the first place and have only ever defended him to the hilt against the idiots who have failed to recognise what he's achieved since his arrival and called for him to be sacked or demanded he only has a certain number of games to sort it out.

You're so full of shit you are literally making stuff up.

There are plenty of posters were you described him as an average League 1 manager.

You're a sad middle aged man basing his popularity on the number of likes he geta on a football forum whilst insinuating that people are homosexual to get a cheap laugh.

Whats next a racist joke?
 

skybluetony176

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There are plenty of posters were you described him as an average League 1 manager.

You're a sad middle aged man basing his popularity on the number of likes he geta on a football forum whilst insinuating that people are homosexual to get a cheap laugh.

Whats next a racist joke?

And that means I didn't want him as manager because?
 

skybluetony176

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There are plenty of posters were you described him as an average League 1 manager.

You're a sad middle aged man basing his popularity on the number of likes he geta on a football forum whilst insinuating that people are homosexual to get a cheap laugh.

Whats next a racist joke?

Plus you've now insinuated on this thread that I'm homophobic and now racist. What are you basing that on exactly? If you're any sort of a man now would be a good time to withdraw your stupid insinuations and apologise.
 

letsallsingtogether

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That is not specifically blaming Cole,it is a general statement as I read it

If anything our system as a fact changed but you cannot blame Cole it was more about other factors such as Sufc away , injuries and players being unsettled ( fleck Madders and armas future) imho
So who are you blaming.
 

Astute

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*posts

(Just before Tony gets in a quick quip)

And add to that *where :)

A bit like you accusing me of bullying Grendel for mentioning his anti Cole posts and saying that anything lower than 6th would be a failure when at the start of the season he was saying the opposite after the way you try to bully people on here. You have tried it with me enough.
 

dongonzalos

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That is not specifically blaming Cole,it is a general statement as I read it

If anything our system as a fact changed but you cannot blame Cole it was more about other factors such as Sufc away , injuries and players being unsettled ( fleck Madders and armas future) imho

I think he is specifically blaming the signing of Cole.
He is saying the Cole experiment has failed. When Cole came top 2 was easily achievable now it isn't.

I agree with you I think it is mostly down to injuries and suspensions and nothing to do with Cole signing.

Whose to say without his goal and 5 assists in 11 matches we wouldn't be worse off.
 

letsallsingtogether

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And add to that *where :)

A bit like you accusing me of bullying Grendel for mentioning his anti Cole posts and saying that anything lower than 6th would be a failure when at the start of the season he was saying the opposite after the way you try to bully people on here. You have tried it with me enough.

Leave him alone he will only go off crying and accusing you of racism, being homophobic, threatening other City fans.
He will laugh at this one day when he leaves school
 

idm1975

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That is not specifically blaming Cole,it is a general statement as I read it

If anything our system as a fact changed but you cannot blame Cole it was more about other factors such as Sufc away , injuries and players being unsettled ( fleck Madders and armas future) imho
He is saying exactly that without actually saying it, if you cannot see then you are as big a knob as he is.
 

Sick Boy

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Plus you've now insinuated on this thread that I'm homophobic and now racist. What are you basing that on exactly? If you're any sort of a man now would be a good time to withdraw your stupid insinuations and apologise.

Apologise for what? You have regularly tried to imply that people are homosexual as a way of insult.
 

skybluetony176

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Apologise for what? You have regularly tried to imply that people are homosexual as a way of insult.

I've never implied anyone is a homosexual and neither do I think there's anything wrong in being homosexual.

You're clearly in love with Grendull but I've never implied it's sexually motivated.

It's another case of not reading what I've actually posted. Story of your lifetime.

And I'm a racist because?
 

Sick Boy

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I've never implied anyone is a homosexual and neither do I think there's anything wrong in being homosexual.

You're clearly in love with Grendull but I've never implied it's sexually motivated.

It's another case of not reading what I've actually posted. Story of your lifetime.

And I'm a racist because?

Thank you, Tony.

You've perfectly summed up your level of maturity.

Now, get back to counting those likes and trying to come up with more witty names for people you disagree with.
 

Grendel

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And add to that *where :)

A bit like you accusing me of bullying Grendel for mentioning his anti Cole posts and saying that anything lower than 6th would be a failure when at the start of the season he was saying the opposite after the way you try to bully people on here. You have tried it with me enough.

None of which is true but hey you and facts never have been close friends have they?
 

Grendel

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He is saying exactly that without actually saying it, if you cannot see then you are as big a knob as he is.

A typically constructive post from you.

My point about Cole is as stated by the more learned observer on the forum.

We have had to change styles, had to change the team around when he couldn't play two games in a row and also his arrival co-incided with indifferent form. It's also hard to claim he has had many games where he has shone and created a massive impact.

When he arrived I believed it would be a similar effect to when Wise arrived (a player no one wanted - including me) - instant impact and a massive influence on results.

There was a lot of euphoria and as of yet that hasn't been paid back.

That's not anti-Cole, or Cole is shit or the usual made up bollocks accusations but an observation based on results, performance and strategy before and after.
 

idm1975

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A typically constructive post from you.

My point about Cole is as stated by the more learned observer on the forum.

We have had to change styles, had to change the team around when he couldn't play two games in a row and also his arrival co-incided with indifferent form. It's also hard to claim he has had many games where he has shone and created a massive impact.

When he arrived I believed it would be a similar effect to when Wise arrived (a player no one wanted - including me) - instant impact and a massive influence on results.

There was a lot of euphoria and as of yet that hasn't been paid back.

That's not anti-Cole, or Cole is shit or the usual made up bollocks accusations but an observation based on results, performance and strategy before and after.
Constructive....how many expletives did you use?
Your observation is based on team stats and not individual player stats, i think we have been through that with you before......clearly you failed to understand. Have you heard 1 player or official say anything bad about him being here? If you are not anti-cole are you saying you are pro-cole?
 

Astute

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A typically constructive post from you.

My point about Cole is as stated by the more learned observer on the forum.

We have had to change styles, had to change the team around when he couldn't play two games in a row and also his arrival co-incided with indifferent form. It's also hard to claim he has had many games where he has shone and created a massive impact.

When he arrived I believed it would be a similar effect to when Wise arrived (a player no one wanted - including me) - instant impact and a massive influence on results.

There was a lot of euphoria and as of yet that hasn't been paid back.

That's not anti-Cole, or Cole is shit or the usual made up bollocks accusations but an observation based on results, performance and strategy before and after.

His arrival coincided with defenders getting injured. Or are you saying he was at fault even when he didn't play? You certainly said he only had one decent game for us. How many people called you wrong on this....and now you are trying to say that you never said it.

We played more defensively once we lost our defenders to injury. We had games where we were still on top but our opponents scored goals that were down to bad defensive errors. But no. Not to you. You just want to blame Cole as you kept saying he is shit and costing us points. And when you are questioned on what you have said you try and make out as though you never said it and come out with stupid comments about someone to try and make them go on the defensive. You are a joke sometimes.
 

usskyblue

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Grendel never says anything.

He makes 'controversial suggestions' in a subsection of the broader subject. By doing so he never has to commit to a definitive opinion. He then sits back and waits for you to demand clarity.

When cornered, he either; ignores your question, disappears or declares that your question is 'irrelevant'.
 

Grendel

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His arrival coincided with defenders getting injured. Or are you saying he was at fault even when he didn't play? You certainly said he only had one decent game for us. How many people called you wrong on this....and now you are trying to say that you never said it.

We played more defensively once we lost our defenders to injury. We had games where we were still on top but our opponents scored goals that were down to bad defensive errors. But no. Not to you. You just want to blame Cole as you kept saying he is shit and costing us points. And when you are questioned on what you have said you try and make out as though you never said it and come out with stupid comments about someone to try and make them go on the defensive. You are a joke sometimes.

I've never said he was shit.

Can you read?
 

Grendel

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Grendel never says anything.

He makes 'controversial suggestions' in a subsection of the broader subject. By doing so he never has to commit to a definitive opinion. He then sits back and waits for you to demand clarity.

When cornered, he either; ignores your question, disappears or declares that your question is 'irrelevant'.

Absurd nonsense.
 

usskyblue

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Absurd nonsense.

Sure it is....

You'd never actually say Cole is shit, you suggest the possibility and watch others take the next step.

Then volley the dolly home by requesting the link to the (Cole is shit) post that doesn't exist.
 

covcity4life

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Grendel never says anything.

He makes 'controversial suggestions' in a subsection of the broader subject. By doing so he never has to commit to a definitive opinion. He then sits back and waits for you to demand clarity.

When cornered, he either; ignores your question, disappears or declares that your question is 'irrelevant'.

Yup trolling 101. He's not creative
 

Grendel

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Yup trolling 101. He's not creative

So you are saying anyone who has negative things to say about Cole is a troll?

That's funny coming from you.
 
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