covcity4life
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terry gibson is reason our national team is so crap
Messi/Suarez penalty (12 Viewers)
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I was being a bit harsh on Vigo I was more trying to say that they were missing a few first teamers on the day and they did keep them out which was making me a bit twitchy as i had Barca by more than 4. I watch a reasonable amount of Spanish football and think there is a lack of quality outside of the top 3 clubs and some dreadful decisions go against the smaller sides.
I can't wait to see Neymar when he comes out of hiding
into the premier league when Pep starts spending the oil money.
Gazolba
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I see no reason why two men should not be allowed to be involved in taking a penalty, provided the defending team can place two goal-keepers in the net.
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Why because he retired?
If you mean me then I think you need to put a bit more flesh on the bone than that and then maybe I can answer you.
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Or what is to stop the goalkeeper wearing a huge pair of gloves that block most of the goal for the penalty nothing in the rules but it doesn't make it right.
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and have beaten them twice in ten years (a fair bit of time outside the top league though)
I don't think that Neymar is a smiling its more of a smirk, Ronaldinho was good and at least had a go in Italy where they tend to mark a bit tighter, for me none of them are close to Maradona who was battered for years in the days of tackling.
covcity4life
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are you stupid?
the penalty pass is IN the rules. its not something they have done and got away with because no written law to stop it. big gloves lmao
and ronaldhino had a go in italy when he was alot lot older. neymar is only 23 or something
Stick Kenny Everetts Brother Lee Love on the line. :-o
What? On the Missus? :-o
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Not as stupid as you would seem the penalty pass as you like to call is in the laws of the game and please find where i said it wasn't what I have said is I don't think it is the decent thing to do, the statement regarding the gloves is that it shows maybe all the laws aren't quite right as you could in theory put them on before the penalty and block most of the goal.
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Perfect I shall get in touch with rcc as he seems to have no penalty saving ability and this might help him.
SkyBlueSid
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This so-called lack of quality outside the top teams is true of all top leagues, especially the Premier League. There is an incredible amount of rubbish touting their trade here every week. La Liga is streets ahead in terms of quality, and certainly in entertainment. And, yes, I've seen quite a few games over there as well as watching it on TV.I was being a bit harsh on Vigo I was more trying to say that they were missing a few first teamers on the day and they did keep them out which was making me a bit twitchy as i had Barca by more than 4. I watch a reasonable amount of Spanish football and think there is a lack of quality outside of the top 3 clubs and some dreadful decisions go against the smaller sides.
I can't wait to see Neymar when he comes out of hiding
The idea that decisions go against lower teams is an interesting one. It depends who they are playing, the team that gains most is Real Madrid as they are the 'establishment' team. This stuff goes back to the days of Franco, incredibly, and also explains why Barca get plenty of dodgy decisions. Remember that Atletico only won the league on the last day a couple of seasons ago because Barca's winning goal was wrongly disallowed for offside.
As for Neymar & Co, why would they take a step down to the Premier League until they are past their best or lose their regular place? I don't buy your point about Maradona either. Are you suggesting, for instance, that Messi doesn't get lumps kicked off him every week? Messi, at 28, has already eclipsed Maradona, who by that age was exposed as a drug cheat.
SkyblueBazza
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I think before we stamp on this as ungentlemanly conduct or disrespectful...let us stamp out things that are just that but outside of the rules. Like nicking 5-10yds on throw - ins & free-kicks, diving, feigning injury, shirt pulling...
...onwards & upwards PUSB
...onwards & upwards PUSB
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time wasting, blocking the player off so the ball can go out for a goal kick it used to be the last couple of yards now it starts at the 18 yard box,the length of time it takes to make a substitution. The new head of FIFA should be busy with all this but if he is anything like the last one he will be too busy feathering his own nest and that of his family.
covcity4life
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diving is accepted but a legit penalty is a step too far
oh my lol
oh my lol
Yeah because it's a deception, much like the Donkey kick was deemed and outlawed.
How many times has it been done, is it three.
Convention means a GK has to prepare to face a shot, let alone stuttered run ups etc.
It's mostly about the deception of the GK to me.
covcity4life
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deception lol
goals are pretty nasty when you think about it. and wins.
0-0 draws are what football should be about. very sporting!
goals are pretty nasty when you think about it. and wins.
0-0 draws are what football should be about. very sporting!
Haha irony is massive.
What if you were a GK?
hill83
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Football fans are precious little lambs. Remember when we booed Bothroyd all game then he cupped his ear after he scored. Our poor feelings. "mummy, the man cupped his ear"
But yeah, Suarez was in the D so it shouldn't have been given. Other than that it's in the rules to do it so I don't see what the issue is.
But yeah, Suarez was in the D so it shouldn't have been given. Other than that it's in the rules to do it so I don't see what the issue is.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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If he was in the D, it gives him an unfair advantage over the defending side, who might otherwise have been able to reach the sideways tap (or any rebound, under other circumstances) before him. That's the reason for the 10 yard rule for everyone other than the penalty taker (and the goalkeeper, who has to be 12 yards away, on or behind the goal-line).
I have no problem with that sort of penalty being deceptive or unsporting, provided the Laws are followed.
I have no problem with that sort of penalty being deceptive or unsporting, provided the Laws are followed.
SkyBlueSid
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The one that really winds me up is when players throw themselves to the floor after the slightest contact that would not floor an excited toddler. Then players, managers and pundits justify it by saying that "He felt the contact so he was entitled to go down." Entitled? Football is a contact sport so when did a slight brush of the shirt become a penalty offence?
Football has become an inherently dishonest game with managers encouraging players to manipulate the rules and con referees. The law-makers have just made it worse by tinkering with interpretations so nobody knows what is right any more. This, of course, helps referees in a way as they can justify any decision whichever way it went. Just as well when you see the standard of some of the referees at our level, I suppose.
covcity4life
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what if i were? if the other team scores a goal i wouldnt start cry and calling them deceptive lol
lifeskyblue
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Agree with this. Referees at our level are poor but they are honest and poor. It is players and managers who cheat and bend rules. I hate players surrounding the ref trying to influence the giving of cards.
Like Sid I also abhor those players who go down too easily...I love Madders skills but I get angry when he goes down for nothing...and those who have been snipered one minute then are up and running the next.
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Skyblueweeman
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Ronaldo is arrogant. Did you see him walk out of the press conference yesterday? Petulant (regardless of ability or stupidity of the question).
As for the penalty, hill83 is spot on. Should've been disallowed or retaken as Suarez was in the D but it was a legal move.
I also don't agree with the disrespectful comments. These guys are the best in the world because of their technical ability. Fans love to see it, they're good enough to deliver.
It's an entertainment business isn't?! Fans want results and to be entertained?!
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covcity4life
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For the love of god will someone think about the goalkeepers?!
Skyblueweeman
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Here's a scenario.
CCFC at Wembley in the Play off Final.,the opposition do the same as Barca and win promotion as a result.
Will we sit there sniggering and saying fair play, that's a wicked rule. That was so skillful.
Before the witty retorts fly in, we're going up auto's, the GK is shit at pens anyway and wouldn't save it, or the opposite etc etc.
It's a shitty rule.
covcity4life
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this is the thing though wingy. no self respecting fan should cry foul because the other team outsmarted them
it wouldnt matter to me how the goal was scored as long as not via cheating(handball) or mistake(ball didnt cross line) etc
it wouldnt matter to me how the goal was scored as long as not via cheating(handball) or mistake(ball didnt cross line) etc
hill83
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I'd be raging. But it's in the rules. Man up and wipe away those tears.
You get what I'm saying and rules change,think of our donkey kick, it was smart but then outlawed,for, ungentlemanly conduct I think.
It is currently legal to score a penalty that way, I'd rather they changed it.
It's a free world and I respect the opposite viewpoint but that is mine.
No fans were harmed in the posting of this opinion. :facepalm: