Pipehitterz
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I would say that it is bloody likely
Seeing as we still have a Club
Vincelot joins Bradford (8 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Kid
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So if someone makes a post that you disagree with they're lying? Lmfao. I had a f**king good shit half an hour ago... Do you believe me or would you like a link? 
Nick
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You are clearly struggling to understand.So if someone makes a post that you disagree with they're lying? Lmfao. I had a f**king good shit half an hour ago... Do you believe me or would you like a link?
phildownunder
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That`s exactly what a lot of City fans said when JH sold Terry Bly before bringing in your namesake.
Sky Blue Trust - Statement On The Sale Of Romain Vincelot
"Following the loss of John Fleck, at the end of his contract to another League 1 club, the sale of Romain Vincelot also to one of our rivals has seen responses from many Coventry City fans ranging from bewilderment and disappointment to anger and dismay.
On behalf of our members and all CCFC supporters, the Sky Blue Trust would like to know how the loss of another of our key midfield players will help the football club to realise its ambition to secure promotion."
http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/114-latest-news/513-statement-on-the-sale-of-romain-vincelot
"Following the loss of John Fleck, at the end of his contract to another League 1 club, the sale of Romain Vincelot also to one of our rivals has seen responses from many Coventry City fans ranging from bewilderment and disappointment to anger and dismay.
On behalf of our members and all CCFC supporters, the Sky Blue Trust would like to know how the loss of another of our key midfield players will help the football club to realise its ambition to secure promotion."
http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/114-latest-news/513-statement-on-the-sale-of-romain-vincelot
fernandopartridge
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What a load of self indulgent rubbish from the Trust.
Nick
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Christ, back to the old ways then.
Grendel
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Strange how they ignore a large section of fans on here who actually see it making sense.
Perhaps the trust would like to explain how we could keep a player offered double wages at another club motivated? Or should we double his wages and extend his contract.
robbiekeane
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this is pathetic.
a 31 year old midfielder, who we signed for £25k from Leyton orient and had an average second half of the season, got sold to Bradford for probably double what we paid for him, which was the managers choice, the transfer window is open for another month, and the Trust releases a statement....
get a grip and stop being so wet
a 31 year old midfielder, who we signed for £25k from Leyton orient and had an average second half of the season, got sold to Bradford for probably double what we paid for him, which was the managers choice, the transfer window is open for another month, and the Trust releases a statement....
get a grip and stop being so wet
Skybluefaz
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Mowbray has already held his hands up to sanctioning the transfer. Are the trust going to plow on with a Mowbray out campaign?
skybluetony176
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A supporters trust holding the powers that be accountable for the decision making at the club? Whatever next!
covcity4life
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the trust are pathetic. they have tried to turn a player transfer into another reason to hit out at sisu. ridiculous
Nick
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After the manager has come out and said it was down to him for footballing reasons?
It is more like the Supporters Trust trying to whip up a frenzy again.
Mowbray has already given statements about it hasn't he saying to Trust him and Venus?
This statement will now be rolled out in the CET, where more of a frenzy will be whipped up..
robbiekeane
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Literally cringing......
Cavan O'Doherty
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They're not happy unless there's something for them to moan about. It's been too long since they could blame Sisu for something.
italiahorse
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This may come as a surprise but the vast majority of fans I speak to see this as a backward move.
Yes we may be proved wrong but the fact that he was a key part of the pre season build up suggests that TM hadn't planned for this and that he is making the most of a bad situation.
Surely TM would want to start the season with a full strength team and pick up the back up players in the transfer windows afterwards?
In my mind we will again be going for a lot of unproven loan players who will be just taking the money come Christmas.
Have you got your ticket yet ?
fernandopartridge
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The manager made the decision which is his right.
Perhaps the Trust can issue one of these pointless, counter-productive statements every time they disagree with a team selection or substitution.
Why not use that to hit out? If it's true that we had to sell a player for five figures, in order to fund other transfers, when the squad is already beyond depleted then it's a perfect time.
Even if it is true that TM wanted different options for this season, the fact that he had to sell someone for so little without having definite replacements is what a lot of fans (the ones that are talking about returning season tickets and NOPM) seem to find worrying.
Nick
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So why is he in the paper telling everybody to trust him?
Surely the trust are showing no faith in the manager?
skybluetony176
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Like I've asked on the SCG question thread "what is this seasons budget" it may well have been TM's decision but under what circumstances has he made that decision? If he's been told that this seasons budget is smaller than last seasons (quite possible given that the figures were apparently cocked up so badly last season) then his only choice might be to sell one of our best players to bring in a couple to fill the squad out, especially when TM has also said that he doesn't want to be so reliant on loans this season so we need a bigger percentage of our squad to be our own players. He has to cut our cloth according to our means. It's not as simple as you are trying to make out and personally all I think that the trust are trying to do is flush out the details of our circumstances. You think that they're trying to whip up a frenzy and in your case and a few others that seems to have worked. Maybe you have a point there, you've just failed to recognize that you're the one in the frenzy.
Because part of his job is to engage with PR. As the man that started the Celtic huddle he knows a thing or two about that.
Personally I trust TM to do the best with the poor hand he's dealt. Last year he did better than I anticipated. However, selling before you buy, particularly when we've lost so many players isn't ideal.
Serious question for you Nick:
If it were you in TM's shoes, would you rather: bring in the replacements and then sell those deemed surplus to requirements and not fitting your idea of a team, or, sell those not needed and then hope to agree terms with targets a couple of weeks before the season starts?
Nick
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Yes, quite clearly in a frenzy. It seems most people think it is a bit pointless after the manager has come out and talked about it in the press.
The same as 90% of other managers in the football league.
Nick
Administrator
I'd have players lined up ready to sign with the money before selling anybody and telling everybody to trust me. If I didn't have players lined up, told everybody to trust me and it was still the same come the transfer deadline, nobody would trust me.
fernandopartridge
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He decided it was worth doing. He didn't have to do it.
CCFC_Charlie
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I stopped taking the trust seriously when many of the people in charge started actively supporting the franchise rugby club Wasps, despite being vehemently against our move to Northampton.
You have more faith in SISU than me! Just because he tries to spin something positively, doesn't mean he had a choice. Likewise, you may be correct and it was his choice, I guess we'll have to wait till his autobiography is out to see what he really thought of SISU!
skybluetony176
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Clearly in a frenzy, glad you agree.
How does our cloth compare to others in the league? Strangely quite on that this year aren't they? How do you know TM isn't having to make enforced decisions like this because of smaller budget constraints? It's only right that a supporters trust ask's for clarification on that and like you always used to say what's wrong with asking questions?
Nick
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In which case he is a liar isn't he?
If he is actively saying it is his fault and his choice and doing statements it is completely different.
Surely if nobody has faith in anything he says, he should go too?
Nick
Administrator
It isn't on behalf of anybody but the board and the people in and around them.
Mowbray has addressed it, he has said he is building and to trust him and Venus. If they don't, and think he is lying they should call for him to go.
If that statement was a day after the window closes, you could understand it.
robbiekeane
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Oh no I can't believe our manager has to make decisions and trade offs based on a limited budget. How dare he say he's selling one player to help fund another, poor bloke must be so tormented with his inevitably shrinking budget.
listen to yourself you idiots
listen to yourself you idiots
skybluetony176
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This is exactly what I mean about you being in a frenzy. The trust statement doesn't say or suggest anyone is a lair or for anyone to go. In you're frenzy you've whipped that up yourself.
They've asked a question. That's all.
It's seeking clarification. That's all.
Nick
Administrator
Seeking clarification from who?
Surely they would just ask at the SCG meeting tomorrow about Mowbray's plans he wants us to trust him with?
They have been posting on here asking for questions to ask at the meeting, but then ask their own in a random public statement? Why would they do that if it wasn't to get a reaction?
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