It would be interesting to see if the attitude to white Christian terrorists is different to brown Muslim terrorists.
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It would be interesting to see if the attitude to white Christian terrorists is different to brown Muslim terrorists.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That's pretty ironic actually. Quite literally at this rate, people like you are going to be the exact reason why we will no longer live in a safe society.
Astute
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Are you accusing anyone of being racist or saying white murderer good black murderer bad?
The EU system put in place is costing innocent people their life. Yet you seem to think that it is a price worth paying. Because if anyone says anything against it you come out with pathetic comments against them.
Astute
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Missed this comment. You can fuck off with your pathetic comments. Could you go any lower than this?
Nick
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Jeez, maybe instead of shooting the people who carry out these crimes because of a "mental illness" we should just give them a cuddle instead? The more people accuse of anybody who mentions anything about immigration Racists, the more ACTUAL racists will get away with it. It will only make organisations like the EDL and those Britain First people grow which then gives actual hardline racists more of a voice.
Astute
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Maybe done by a black person who is now brown and was under orders from Hitlers replacement. Martcov knows more than the rest of us put together.
It is not meant to be ironic. Astute is moaning that there are only 59 current investigations. They are investigating suspicious people not innocent people. It is getting scary expecting hundreds of thousands to be placed under general suspicion. That is more like Erdogan. I'm not for going down that road.
Saying shoot mentaly ill migrants is already there. They should be treated and held in a clinic if they are ill, not shot.
No I don't, but I tend to look at the facts before e.g. claiming that Munich was a terrorist act and blaming Merkel and refugees..
Nick
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The other question still stands.
For example Germany or the UK takes in 1,000 migrants with mental issues. What then happens to the people already receiving mental health treatment, does their treatment then become affected? Does this mean more clinics need to be built just to treat migrants?
It puts a strain on the services as well doesn't it?
Of course, it would be lovely if the NHS could cure everybody and save everybody but it can't can it?
Any real Germans here?
Soon. I'm waiting for German citizenship..
Is that a good enough reason for pulling out of the Geneva convention? Or doing away with human rights? Or introducing Euthanasie to free hospital beds? This path has been trodden before....
Old German man pissed off at not being treated - shot the doc and then himself...
dutchman
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That won't make you a real German any more than me claiming British nationality (which I could easily do) would make me "British".
You weren't born in Germany and you don't think like a German, you never will.
Nick
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You might have to point out where I said anything about euthanising anybody, talk about going over the top.
I was joking. My smily on my iPhone obviously didn't come through....
I don't want to think like a German ( whatever that means ).
You didn't- I asked you a question.
Nick
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It isn't quite regarding health, but I have seen first hand how detrimental it is to have an influx of refugees / foreign people join a school. Much higher class numbers, added strain on teachers because of language barriers which then takes away from the other kids as more time is spent with kids who can't understand a word that is going on.
Call me racist or selfish for that if you want, but seeing a child who is very bright for her age coming home with a drawing of a hand because she finished her work and the teachers were busy trying to teach so and so how to count in English frankly takes the piss. That is the same for English people in spanish schools also before that question is asked.
I don't go to the doctors much or use the NHS much (thankfully right now) so can't comment on if I have seen anything with that.
Call me racist or selfish for that if you want, but seeing a child who is very bright for her age coming home with a drawing of a hand because she finished her work and the teachers were busy trying to teach so and so how to count in English frankly takes the piss. That is the same for English people in spanish schools also before that question is asked.
I don't go to the doctors much or use the NHS much (thankfully right now) so can't comment on if I have seen anything with that.
dutchman
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Okay, fair enough.
It's just that you give the impression that you're speaking for the German public whereas my knowledge of them suggests they are thinking very differently from you indeed.
I would be pissed off as well. My daughter never had that sort of thing here. She is going to England in September to a college partly financed by the EU. She will do a year in England and her A levels here. Guess we're lucky.
Nick
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It's things like that that annoy me, a long way from racism but say anything you get made to feel like one.
I'd imagine the same if your daughter (I hope she never does) needed mental health treatment but because of a huge amount of people from syria who need it before they hurt people she gets put to the bottom of the list.
Of course, they need help but at what detriment to everybody else and at what point do they start getting annoyed by it before somebody throws the race card?
Astute
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Might be the same problem as with a lot of the UK. Lots of immigrants in a short amount of time and not enough infrastructure to cope. If true not an excuse for it to happen. But one reason why uncontrolled immigration can't continue.
No, I am not speaking for the German public, but the uptake of events on here is influenced by anti EU spin - especially since the run up to the referendum. Just pointing out things that I see here and trying to correct things - such as Munich - when I can.
I do have a wide circle of aquaintances throughout Germany - because I travel a lot and meet a lot of people. I hear what the right and extreme right are saying - but it doesn't turn me on and it worries me. I also know people helping refugees- and I admire them. So, I am maybe a moderate, but that's life.
Perhaps the latest attack by Muslims in Europe..........you know the one where they slit the catholic priests throat screaming Allah Akbar wasn't terrorists either !! Where will be next ? And MartGermany can't see a bit of danger in what Merkel did, it was all worth the risk.........well as events continue to unfold as they surely will, I hope people keep reminding you that wet blankets just like you are out of your depth when talking about this onslaught. You might be well intentioned and a decent person but you and your type have exposed millions more people to grim possibilities from these religious brainwashed maniacs.
Astute
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The facts?
Or do you mean your facts? Like I want to replace Hitler. And that black people are brown people if they are muslims. And people in the UK think it is OK for white Christians to murder people but not OK for brown muslims to do so.
Yes all comments made by you. And you are sick if it should have been a joke but the smilie on your phone isn't working
If you put ; and ) together you get a wink. But you should know this by now. Phones have done it for enough years now.
I'd suggest you'd get annoyed if such a situation actually ever arose.
Has mental health treatment been refused or denied to anyone on the NHS due to 'a huge amount of people from syria who need it'?
Nick
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I'm talking about the stuff in Germany where mart says to just give everybody treatment.
Where people from war zones come over there would be a lot more stuff going on that could give them mental health issues. I dread to think what some of them have seen.
If you take in thousands that need mental health treatment or need to go into a unit, surely that would strain the system?
dutchman
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You see, what you perceive as the views of the right and extreme right (on this matter at least) are what I believe a majority of Germans are really thinking even if they haven't yet come out and said so.
Where has your figure of 'thousands' come from?
Nick
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How many refugees are in Germany? I'd hazard a guess on numbers it is in the thousands.
I'm sure you can also understand the point I am making?
Oh, guess work - well that's alright then.
Nick
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Ok so it doesn't happen. We can just ignore it?
Surely if demand shoots up, either the services need to as well or service goes down?
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