Russell Slade (13 Viewers)

oucho

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(puts tin hat on)

Don't forget Micky Adams went 8 games or so before he won a game. It must be said that things do not look good for Slade, but I will judge him after Oldham Wimbledon and Gills - if we don't win any of those, I do not see him staying on until May.
 

Otis

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(puts tin hat on)

Don't forget Micky Adams went 8 games or so before he won a game. It must be said that things do not look good for Slade, but I will judge him after Oldham Wimbledon and Gills - if we don't win any of those, I do not see him staying on until May.
But then what is the point of him going? By then it will be coffin nailed down completely.

As Eakin said today, we could be 11 points behind by tomorrow.

Hardly any of the players are going to be here after the summer.

The only thing I think we could do would be to blood youngsters and tell them there's no pressure, no weight on their shoulders and to just go out there, get some game time and enjoy themselves.
 

oucho

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The only thing I think we could do would be to blood youngsters and tell them there's no pressure, no weight on their shoulders and to just go out there, get some game time and enjoy themselves.

This isn't such a bad idea actually. We played our best football of 2016 in April when we had sunk away from the playoffs and the pressure was off; I think there is an argument for doing just as you say.

The counter-argument is that throwing them into such a toxic environment in a physical league where they'll lose every week will harm them.
 

skybluedan

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But then what is the point of him going? By then it will be coffin nailed down completely.

As Eakin said today, we could be 11 points behind by tomorrow.

Hardly any of the players are going to be here after the summer.

The only thing I think we could do would be to blood youngsters and tell them there's no pressure, no weight on their shoulders and to just go out there, get some game time and enjoy themselves.

Good call,
 

The Lurker

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(puts tin hat on)

Don't forget Micky Adams went 8 games or so before he won a game. It must be said that things do not look good for Slade, but I will judge him after Oldham Wimbledon and Gills - if we don't win any of those, I do not see him staying on until May.

Since he's turned up the football has been dire. Do you actually go the games? He needs to go now!
 

Paxman II

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We are not the only ones are we? Bury looking at that table...what the hell happened to them? Are SISU in charge there too?
 

covcity4life

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Feel sorry for him today on the striker front. Both his two new signings injured, no strikers on the bench.

You didn't feel sorry for mowbray when kwamw thomas ibnured. In fact you used it against him

Wow you have some real bias dont you?
 
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You pay peanuts you get monkeys. We cant keep blaming manager after manager when they have to work with their hands tied. We now know our player budget was the bottom hald not top half as others kept preaching. In 10 years of shit there is one common denominator in this and thats our chairman joy. You can only work with what you have and these cretins have made the job impossibke for every manager that weve had. Robins saw that and ran off the rest took the wage and did what they could.
Until this parasite has left we will never go any where
 

wingy

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What other manager has to use part of his player budget to decorate the training ground which was a disgrace and run down. That one point says everything to me about our owners and their vision for the club
That doesn't even belong to the Club.
 

oucho

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I am going to stick my neck out here and predict that it's not going to end in glory for Mr Slade at CCFC.
 

Otis

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I suppose the only positive we could get from sacking Slade would be to put a manager in place with the eye very much on next season and the campaign ahead.
 

covcity4life

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But then what is the point of him going? By then it will be coffin nailed down completely.

As Eakin said today, we could be 11 points behind by tomorrow.

Hardly any of the players are going to be here after the summer.

The only thing I think we could do would be to blood youngsters and tell them there's no pressure, no weight on their shoulders and to just go out there, get some game time and enjoy themselves.

This agree with . If we dont win 2 out of next 3 play likes of harries finch pontecelli dke spence etc. We may be relying on them next season.

Also play gadzhev and jones bigi etc. Players who will be here in league 2
 

oucho

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Oh by the way, here's Slade’s overall League One record this season (us and Charlton):

P 23
W 4
D 10
L 9
Pts 22

Doesn't inspire much confidence in a miracle turnaround, does it?
 

Grendel

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We were playing really good football under Mowbray though and just lacked a goal scorer. So close to getting it right before he walked out.


We were playing shite football under Mowbray. His first four home games were against some of the worst teams in the division and we barely mustered a shot at goal in any of them.
 

The Lurker

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First couple of games were decent, we outplayed Bolton for example.
Are you really defending them!? Bolton game was 4 games ago since then we've picked no points and scored no goals! It's an embarrassment! How can justify this shit?
 

no_loyalty

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This agree with . If we dont win 2 out of next 3 play likes of harries finch pontecelli dke spence etc. We may be relying on them next season.

Also play gadzhev and jones bigi etc. Players who will be here in league 2

I think Gadzhev and Bigi are out of contract in the summer
 

trevelfarandwide

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Hmm, so bottom when he left and there were his recruitments.

Yep, definitely Slade's fault.

Ok, seriously, who gives a flying toss about blame?! Mowbray failed to sign the quality he targeted, then was forced to sign the dross available...he bottled it, resigned, then the Venus experiment which went horribly wrong, and now step forward Slade.

Team under TM = shit. Team under MV = started off promisingly, but the bounce wore off, hence - shit. Team under RS = shitter than the previous two, taking into account tactics, team selections and overall style of play.

Blame, blame, blame...we blame the managers, we blame the players, we even blame ourselves. Who SHOULD we blame, ultimately? Exactly.

Not one single manager can function or succeed in this desiccated, corrupt, half-arsed climate that this club exudes. Mowbray, I believe, was the best manager we could have hoped for - he got us to 8th, which in hindsight, considering the grand shitpit of this club's preceding 15 years, was remarkable.

Our reality now is one of hopelessness, which nobody can stop. Blame who you like, mate, but I know where my blame is ALWAYS directed.
 

steve82

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I was hoping RS would be the messiah... very much looks unlikely now. I'll hold my hands up!
However his cv was the best out there at the point we were in need of a manager as MV was completely looking out his depth and killed the players of confidence by saying in a interview that they were not good enough for league one and not up to the job after a bright start when TM left.
However ask yourself who in reality could turn this club around in the situation it's in? I can think of no one hence why I was pleased we got Slade in.
However it's even beyond him being able to motivate and install belief into the squad he inherited. I think we can send he's tried all he can in bringing in clarke to sort the back 4 out, it's helped.. and Beavon up top to try and spark something there.
Unfortunately it's not worked and strikers are the issue of the season and a distinct lack of goals. RS says he tried to get players in and they chose elsewhere.
Ultimately it's the players who need to sort themselves out more than anything and be accountable for what they've or have not contributed to this seasons demise.
Alarm bells rang out on the Summer... unable to fill the key issues in January it seems so far... so again who could of saved us. We're a club beyond help with the squad to hand.

I called for Steve Evans to come in back when TM walked, could things of been different now? I doubt it as the squad assembled is not good enough. MV seen the nail put in that coffin by destroying a young fragile group to handover to RS to try to revive... maybe he could of if he'd of taken the reigns from TM not MV
 

Otis

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Ok, seriously, who gives a flying toss about blame?! Mowbray failed to sign the quality he targeted, then was forced to sign the dross available...he bottled it, resigned, then the Venus experiment which went horribly wrong, and now step forward Slade.

Team under TM = shit. Team under MV = started off promisingly, but the bounce wore off, hence - shit. Team under RS = shitter than the previous two, taking into account tactics, team selections and overall style of play.

Blame, blame, blame...we blame the managers, we blame the players, we even blame ourselves. Who SHOULD we blame, ultimately? Exactly.

Not one single manager can function or succeed in this desiccated, corrupt, half-arsed climate that this club exudes. Mowbray, I believe, was the best manager we could have hoped for - he got us to 8th, which in hindsight, considering the grand shitpit of this club's preceding 15 years, was remarkable.

Our reality now is one of hopelessness, which nobody can stop. Blame who you like, mate, but I know where my blame is ALWAYS directed.
I too was very impressed with the signing of Mowbray as our manager when we got him.

I never wanted anyone to do so well as him either. Seemed a very decent, honest bloke and he did try to play football in the right manner.
 

Covstu

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I posted this in the match thread, but it's relevant here too.

I was all for giving RS time etc, I thought the calls for his head were premature, but we are absolutely clueless.

No tactics, no adaptability, no motivation, no passion.

Unfortunately there's no point getting rid of him as whoever comes in will have the same players and were down already anyway.
I think this is the question really, do you give up the fight and start preparing for league two. Giving more kids a chance and put them in the shop window
 

trevelfarandwide

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I too was very impressed with the signing of Mowbray as our manager when we got him.

I never wanted anyone to do so well as him either. Seemed a very decent, honest bloke and he did try to play football in the right manner.

And the more I look at the situation, from failed recruitment in the summer, to him walking after 10 games, it just screams of the fact he was utterly defeated by the constrictions of the board and the limited squad he was lumbered with. He should have at least stuck around till January, in my opinion, however he seemed very keen to get out of the sinking ship ASAP.

Can't blame him, really. Who in their right mind would manage this club passionately under such horrid, disenchanting working conditions? The futility of the endeavour is, what I believe, forced TM to walk.

As for Slade, well...can't blame him either. He's out of his depth here, and if he doesn't walk, I'll be surprised.
 

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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Slade seems a nice bloke but he really needs to be given the ejector seat treatment first thing Monday morning!

He's made us worse since arrival and looks completely out of his depth - I can't see us scoring again under Slade - nevermind fucking winning! Even Venus - the odious rent boy, got us a few points on the board.
 

Otis

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Slade seems a nice bloke but he really needs to be given the ejector seat treatment first thing Monday morning!

He's made us worse since arrival and looks completely out of his depth - I can't see us scoring again under Slade - nevermind fucking winning! Even Venus - the odious rent boy, got us a few points on the board.
The football has got worse.

I have said several times, the long ball game is fine as long as you are winning.
 

steve82

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The bigger problem for me is this summer and finding stability with a manager before may. The retained list I think needs to be presented in may, and work on assembling the new squad needs starting at the earliest opportunity as we don't want to end up in the same position as last summer.
 

Otis

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The bigger problem for me is this summer and finding stability with a manager before may. The retained list I think needs to be presented in may, and work on assembling the new squad needs starting at the earliest opportunity as we don't want to end up in the same position as last summer.
We most certainly do not want to be building a new squad completely from scratch.

If we could get some some of spine, keeper, Clarke, Beavon, it would at least be some sort of start.

My guess is that pretty much everyone else apart from the odd youngster such as Thomas and DKE will be gone.

I wouldn't keep Reid, or Rose and Bigi and Lameiras and Haynes will be gone. Stokes too.

That's why it would be good if we could get some youngsters to step up to the first team.
 

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