Shooting reported outside Houses of Parliament (20 Viewers)

[Otis]

I heard a police spokesman say he was armed, should have shot first and asked questions later.

And what he was just someone who was mentally ill and not a terrorist?

 

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[Macca]

His lawyer said that but hasn't said he spoke to him today to confirm he is incarcerated. Situation now uncertain.
Nevertheless some yrs ago this Adu/Trevor guy abused Home Secretary John Reid and told him to 'get out of muslim area' so alive or dead he is a c**t anyway.

PS Just saw vid on twitter popping up claiming abu whotsit, removed for youtube before I could look.

To be fair if it was him then it would be a big issue

 

[dancers lance]

And what he was just someone who was mentally ill and not a terrorist?

Aren't all terrorists mentally ill though?

 

[Grendel]

Stop being a c**t - for once.

RIP to those who lost their lives.

Try telling that to the victims of the Birmingham pub bombmings who see the Commander in chief who orchestrated those murders now being regarding as some kind of Mother Theresa figure.

Not very nice is it?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Try telling that to the victims of the Birmingham pub bombmings who see the Commander in chief who orchestrated those murders now being regarding as some kind of Mother Theresa figure.

Not very nice is it?

You mean like the families of 4 million Indians forcibly starved to death having to bear with England's morbid adulation of Churchill.

People in this country need to have more perspective as to the consequences of our actions internationally.

 

[Gazolba]

If an armed policeman can be killed by an assailant with a knife, something is wrong with the security at the Houses of Parliament.
And if he wasn't armed, what was he doing there?
They do understand that terrorists are armed to the teeth and usually wearing bullet-proof vests right?

 

[Moff]

And what he was just someone who was mentally ill and not a terrorist?

Otis, mentally ill or not, do you let someone with a knife stab you or try to disarm them by any means.
I have been faced by someone with a knife and when it happened the last thing I was thinking was if they had mental health issues or not.

 

[Moff]

If an armed policeman can be killed by an assailant with a knife, something is wrong with the security at the Houses of Parliament.
And if he wasn't armed, what was he doing there?
They do understand that terrorists are armed to the teeth and usually wearing bullet-proof vests right?

The Tories want Police in this country to police by consent. The friendly bobby on the street corner unarmed facing nutters with knives and guns. They are coming out with all their fake platitudes now but in reality they do nothing at all to back our law enforcement.

 

[dancers lance]

You mean like the families of 4 million Indians forcibly starved to death having to bear with England's morbid adulation of Churchill.

People in this country need to have more perspective as to the consequences of our actions internationally.

I know, the average hard working families in England deserve everything they get, even if they didn't exist when these things happened, make them pay!

 

[Sick Boy]

Is there a reason why the majority of police here aren't armed whereas most other countries in Europe are?

 

[Liquid Gold]

I know, the average hard working families in England deserve everything they get, even if they didn't exist when these things happened, make them pay!

Shall we talk about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed in the middle east instead then?

 

[Moff]

Is there a reason why the majority of police here aren't armed whereas most other countries in Europe are?

The Tories want Police in this country to Police by consent. They don't give a fuck that they are in harms way with a small bottle of pepper spray and an asp, as long as the Tories still live in the 50's and think the world is like Dixon of Dock Green. The so called party of law and order have done nothing but undermine and under resource law enforcement in this country.

 

[dancers lance]

The Tories want Police in this country to police by consent. The friendly bobby on the street corner unarmed facing nutters with knives and guns. They are coming out with all their fake platitudes now but in reality they do nothing at all to back our law enforcement.

Our police have always policed by consent, it was one of the founding principles of the service, nothing to do with politics and quite unique to the UK.

 

[ccfc92]

If an armed policeman can be killed by an assailant with a knife, something is wrong with the security at the Houses of Parliament.
And if he wasn't armed, what was he doing there?
They do understand that terrorists are armed to the teeth and usually wearing bullet-proof vests right?

I may be wrong, but heard the police officers were returning from somewhere?

 

[Moff]

Our police have always policed by consent, it was one of the founding principles of the service, nothing to do with politics and quite unique to the UK.

I know but life has moved on since the Peelers were formed.

We have low numbers and low firearms officers and have only avoided many serious attacks in the country due to the dedication and hard work of the Police and the intelligence agencies.

The Met have been asking for routine arming for a number of years, at least at ground level, but the bosses don't want it nor the Politicians so don't tell me it isn't political.

 

[dancers lance]

Shall we talk about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed in the middle east instead then?

Nothing to do with the British public, Mr Blair has the answer to that.

 

[dancers lance]



I know but life has moved on since the Peelers were formed.

We have low numbers and low firearms officers and have only avoided many serious attacks in the country due to the dedication and hard work of the Police and the intelligence agencies.

The Met have been asking for routine arming for a number f years, at least at ground level, but the bosses don't want it nor the Politicians so don't tell me it isn't political.

I agree, the principal should not be used to undermine officers, I am in favour of more specialist military involvement to deal with this kind of stuff.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Nothing to do with the British public, Mr Blair has the answer to that.

So the muslim public have nothing to answer for regarding the actions of Al-Baghdadi then?

 

[Moff]



I agree, the principal should not be used to undermine officers, I am in favour of more specialist military involvement to deal with this kind of stuff.

That's a good point, and an interesting idea, and has the potential to work.

 

[Monners]

Try telling that to the victims of the Birmingham pub bombmings who see the Commander in chief who orchestrated those murders now being regarding as some kind of Mother Theresa figure.

Not very nice is it?

Where did I glorify McGuinness? Oh I see, my Irish background - I must therefore support IRA. You ignorant c**t. He had blood on his hands and knew he couldn't win with guns; the same with the UK Govt , hence the peace process.

Anyway, show some respect for those who died today. I will to the Police on the gates at Parliament when I walk past on the way to the office when I am in London again on Friday.

 

[Gazolba]

I may be wrong, but heard the police officers were returning from somewhere?

I was not talking about the policemen on Westminster Bridge.

 

[dancers lance]

So the muslim public have nothing to answer for regarding the actions of Al-Baghdadi then?

I never said they did.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I never said they did.

Good, I look forward to you not putting undue blame on an entire people as many do.

 

[ccfc92]

Shall we talk about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed in the middle east instead then?

Yes, lets.

Which of the people murdered today went over to these countries and killed innocent civilians?

 

[dancers lance]

Good, I look forward to you not putting undue blame on an entire people as many do.

Please don't look forward to anything from me, I have no time for the "offended" I hate all religions equally and particularly despise the disingenuous.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

If an armed policeman can be killed by an assailant with a knife, something is wrong with the security at the Houses of Parliament.
And if he wasn't armed, what was he doing there?
They do understand that terrorists are armed to the teeth and usually wearing bullet-proof vests right?

Policing...that doesn't necessarily mean guarding. The armed police in the vicinity appear to be few but can quickly assemble into a fighting unit.
That's cold comfort to the murdered Officer's family - but unarmed (if he was) policing in such a location can serve as an unconscious reassurance to the general public

...onwards & upwards PUSB

 

[ccfc92]

I was not talking about the policemen on Westminster Bridge.

Nor was I?

I thought only one police officer was injured/killed today? Apologies if not, it's been a long day.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

The Tories want Police in this country to Police by consent. They don't give a fuck that they are in harms way with a small bottle of pepper spray and an asp, as long as the Tories still live in the 50's and think the world is like Dixon of Dock Green. The so called party of law and order have done nothing but undermine and under resource law enforcement in this country.

I thought the most recent polls suggested the vast majority of Police do not want to be armed.

...onwards & upwards PUSB

 

[martcov]

Fucking BBC still not stating the obvious plain truth.

Even heard one BBC radio commentator of them say "might be extreme right". unbelievable!

Their religion is extreme right.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Yes, lets.

Which of the people murdered today went over to these countries and killed innocent civilians?

None, that being the point. The reaction to this will be pressure to attack countries and kill more people, the reaction to that being more attacks on the west. At some point we're going to have to stop killing and radicalising and sort out a proper grown up solution. Bombing and killing people who were in no way responsible for those poor people killed today is not an answer.

 

[Captain Dart]

Their religion is extreme right.

No it is extremely wrong.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

No it is extremely wrong.

No - a small minority of them interpret it to mean inflicting bad things on anyone & everyone. So it is their interpretation which is wrong

...onwards & upwards PUSB

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Shall we talk about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed in the middle east instead then?

As always,more predictable anti--British sentiment from one of the usual suspects I see.

 

[ccfc92]

None, that being the point. The reaction to this will be pressure to attack countries and kill more people, the reaction to that being more attacks on the west. At some point we're going to have to stop killing and radicalising and sort out a proper grown up solution. Bombing and killing people who were in no way responsible for those poor people killed today is not an answer.

I know, that's why I asked the question.

I am in total agreement with you. I'd much rather we were out of the middle east conflicts.

I would say"and leave them to it", but I don't believe that would work personally.

 

[Sick Boy]

As always,more predictable anti--British sentiment from one of the usual suspects I see.

How is it anti-British?