Vincenti (4 Viewers)
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clint van damme
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I think he adds much needed height defensively and he wins a lot of defensive headers.
He won a lot in the oppositions half first couple of games as well but that seems to of gone off the boil.
I think he'll come good.
He won a lot in the oppositions half first couple of games as well but that seems to of gone off the boil.
I think he'll come good.
Esoterica
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Got a shadow of the old Stokes playing behind him, a big gap where the midfield should be inside of him, not playing him in his preferred position but still scored on Tuesday and got an assist yesterday. Easy target for people who don't get the intricacies of what's playing out before them.
Polar
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I think he's been getting some quite noisy and unfair criticism.
Watched every game so far this season, and what stands out is his high work rate; always chasing, head-down, trying to win the ball back. His passing recently has been great and he has had a hand in our last three goals.
I do wonder if he'd be better in a central and more forward role. Is switching periodically between LM and RM his natural role...?
However, I like the way he sits deeper during the build up then tends to arrive late at the far post. He'll get goals doing this for sure.
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Watched every game so far this season, and what stands out is his high work rate; always chasing, head-down, trying to win the ball back. His passing recently has been great and he has had a hand in our last three goals.
I do wonder if he'd be better in a central and more forward role. Is switching periodically between LM and RM his natural role...?
However, I like the way he sits deeper during the build up then tends to arrive late at the far post. He'll get goals doing this for sure.
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Wasn't he quite injured last season?
So that could pull him back from a peak, and mean he'll either take a long time to get back to previous form, or might never.
Wouldn't be the first for that to happen to... (think Adam Barton!).
So that could pull him back from a peak, and mean he'll either take a long time to get back to previous form, or might never.
Wouldn't be the first for that to happen to... (think Adam Barton!).
Polar
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Hmm yes certainly possible - the Adam Barton example is a good parallel, although Barton also had a rather low work rate iirc.
But yeah Vince is older now, has had an injury, and is obviously in a totally new side. Easy to see how players can peak one year then disappear without a trace the next. Hope he does well, if he keeps working hard i'm sure it'll pay off.
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better days
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He's under appreciated and will come good once we start scoring lots of goals and winning regularly
Once he gets fit Biamou could be the man to lead the line and score goals
Then we'll see Vincenti come into his own with the pressure off
Once he gets fit Biamou could be the man to lead the line and score goals
Then we'll see Vincenti come into his own with the pressure off
Mucca Mad Boys
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The criticism of Vincenti is very unfair, which I think is rooted in the idea that he doesn't fit the archetypal 'pacey' winger.
He got a great assist v Cambridge making him joint top in assists with Kelly, and got a goal the game before. When I look at highlights, he's involved in a positive way, such as Grimsby, where he could have easily had another assist and a goal.
The reality is, he's one of our most productive players so far.
He got a great assist v Cambridge making him joint top in assists with Kelly, and got a goal the game before. When I look at highlights, he's involved in a positive way, such as Grimsby, where he could have easily had another assist and a goal.
The reality is, he's one of our most productive players so far.
any "fan" that cheers a substitution , where a player has been trying but might not have had their best day , is an absolute muppet...
personally I think Vincent is one of those players that looks a bit messy & gangly, but actually does a decent job & would be again to play against
personally I think Vincent is one of those players that looks a bit messy & gangly, but actually does a decent job & would be again to play against
Esoterica
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No.
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Super Graham Withey
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Agree Stokes is playing nowhere near as well as he was before his injury. At fault for their second goal yesterday I thought. Hopefully he can regain his old form.
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I always have one player a season this year it's Beavon for the last few years it's been Jack Finch other previous holders of the title Carl Baker, Chris Hussey and going back Oggy
Irish Sky Blue
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Beavon hit a real rocket of a shot yesterday, , either side of the keeper and it would have been in. He has looked better playing behind Nazon. He actually has the ball more at his feet and has been far more involved in the games.But you like Beavon as well so I will have to count you out today Otis
I remember Dion Dublin getting stick off some City fans. After a while each goal he scored was celebrated with the team rather than the fans. As far as I know he is still not a member of the FPA. It obviously does get to some players. Vincenti didn't have the best of games yesterday but certainly didn't deserve the sarcastic applause when subbed.
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I think that sums Beavon up he had the whole goal to hit and hit the smallest part the keeper, he just doesn't score and to me it's not acceptable
skybluetony176
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Can't comment on yesterday's game but I based on the last two home games I thought he was improving. Was more involved and what he did was more effective than the two home games prior to that.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Minus his goal, and two assists, you might be right...
Nick
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He gets far too much stick, people instantly think he should be flying down the flanks with stepovers. He isn't meant to be a Jones type player, the SeaSeaFC (I think thats right) Blog breaks it down with stats and shows things most people usually miss.
He is so much better with the ball at his feet, towards the end in the week he was making decent quick passes and one of them lead to the goal.
He is so much better with the ball at his feet, towards the end in the week he was making decent quick passes and one of them lead to the goal.
Liquid Gold
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Ryan Haynes is not Gareth Bale. Leave it out already.
Liquid Gold
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Vincent i adds a lot to the team and if he wasn't there we'd be wondering why there is always so much pressure on the defenders.
I like the way that him and Jones swap wings it has to cause problems for the opposition defenders.
If I was Robins I would add another one into the mix by getting Vincenti to pop up in the middle from time to time, he could flick on headers to the fast boys or just get knock downs.
The touchline punts become a bit predictable after a while, thats when he needs to wander in field twenty yards just to take the centre backs out of their comfort zone mopping up headers over Beavon or Nazon.
If I was Robins I would add another one into the mix by getting Vincenti to pop up in the middle from time to time, he could flick on headers to the fast boys or just get knock downs.
The touchline punts become a bit predictable after a while, thats when he needs to wander in field twenty yards just to take the centre backs out of their comfort zone mopping up headers over Beavon or Nazon.
Grendel
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Haynes lacks positional discipline - Vincenti doesn't.
ccfcway
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he's not the only one. Amazed at how much our players have got stick so far this season
pastythegreat
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Think we need Haynes back asap tbf. Even if he doesn't get game time, to shove a rocket up Stokes' backside with a little bit of competition.
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fatso
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It's not stick, it's just reasoned opinion, you are welcome to disagree,
What I find amazing, is how many people imediately assume that any comment that dosnt sound like total hero worship, must be stick!
ccfcway
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Not saying yours, just in general, so many comments writing off players and booing already. A thread already started to defend this
Booing of team... some thoughts
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Nick
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Booing his name being read out and cheering when he gets subbed off is hardly reasoned opinion.
fatso
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That's true, but I was referring to comments on this forum.
larry_david
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Haynes will tear most of these League 2 apart, fact.