johnwillomagic
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Didn't know Nathan Ellington was still playing let alone for us.
The Duck can be greedy too I have no idea about the Duke.
The Duck can be greedy too I have no idea about the Duke.
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AFCCOVENTRY
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I think we can see why Robins didn't want to start him and use him more as an impact sub.
steve82
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I'd hazard a guess that he wasn't as he was a huge part of the Jason Roberts partnership which Roberts was a huge scoring hit.
Cov kid 55
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He quickly needs to understand when to shoot and when to pass, otherwise he will never be a player. One would hope that MR goes through the videos with him after every game, and he needs to show a willingness to learn and improve. It is also no excuse that he is a League 2 player, that assumption disrespects all those lower league players, who do know when to shoot, and when to play in a better placed team mate.
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Your right COV KID 55, a good coach ( manager ) would highlight where he's going wrong and you would hope the player would take it all on board and learn , if he doesn't then he will not make it in the game .
itsabuzzard
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steve82
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Except this weekend Nazon fluffed 100% of his.
He needs have a more "team" approach to his game, without taking away too much of his individual game. He needs to balance things more.
He's a long long way from the wolves 1st team cone the end of this loan spell with his current mindset
covcity4life
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steve82
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I don't think I suggested we sign anyone from wolves?
covcity4life
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you put nazon down saying he is nowhere near wolves 1st team, doesnt mean he should be in covs first team though
also why are you avoiding the fact he hit post and produced an important assist?
steve82
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1st point tell me where I said we're in a position to sign any wolves player?
2nd point did I put him down that much? I stated he's miles away from the wolves 1st team with his current mindset, and he needs to balance his game more without losing his individual game. To me that says if he used those around him more while still taking the right shot he's a very good player.
3rd point the assist, and hitting of the post.
Assist was good, he used those around him for the benefit of the team. End result was good, hitting the post so nearly a nice strike.
4th point.... talk me through them two wasted chances when the ball to McNulty was a far better option. If your the wolves scout watching your player you'd not be impressed with the option he took.
covcity4life
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hes not at wolves for a reason, he is not championship level, he is league 2 level and better than most of our players. thats my point
mcnulty misses alot. beavon doesnt even have chances.ponticelli made the biggest fuck up of all saturday. whya re you just centering on nazon?
mcnulty misses alot. beavon doesnt even have chances.ponticelli made the biggest fuck up of all saturday. whya re you just centering on nazon?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I'm not sure about this one, but I'm gonna have a hunch and say it's because this is a thread about Nazon.
Otis
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Bingo!!
steve82
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Maybe it's because this thread is about.... Duckens Nazon???
You've hit the nail on the head yourself he's here for a reason, but when he goes back baring some excellent goals his team play hasn't improved enough for championship level.
covcity4life
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dont worry yourself about his future at wolves, so far hes played a big part in cov being 6th. be thankful
steve82
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I'll give you two examples tho, tell me your thoughts.
1st
2nd
Some tekkers are good, some tekkers are bad!
covcity4life
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indeed. and if all tekkers are great he wouldnt play for cov!
i was out of my seat shouting when he didnt play mcnulty in btw, but hes not only cov player to make msitakes,he is however one of few cov players to make positive things happen on the pitch, we dont want to remove that from his game.
if you dont try you dont succeed after all, some failures will happen along the way.
i was out of my seat shouting when he didnt play mcnulty in btw, but hes not only cov player to make msitakes,he is however one of few cov players to make positive things happen on the pitch, we dont want to remove that from his game.
if you dont try you dont succeed after all, some failures will happen along the way.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I'll give you two examples tho, tell me your thoughts.
1st
2nd
Some tekkers are good, some tekkers are bad!
You would think McNulty would have scored at least one of those if played in there.
Good runs both times to be fair.
steve82
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And that's my point. He needs to involve the team more in the game. If he did he'd start developing into a very good player.
The 1st half he was in solo mode, the second he recognised he had teammates just like the second half at Lincoln when he was very effective.
Is he the only one making positive things happen or is he the one we only see as he's had the ball at his feet. It's easy to ball watch and not see what the others are doing or positions they take up.
McNulty has missed a few good opportunities to get more goals but he's been denied some good ones too by Nazon and JJ when they've been in solo mode.
This is what MR has picked up on at times when he's quoted the decision making in attacking areas. McNulty, JJ, Nazon and others have been guilty of doing the right thing at the right time. 26 games to put it right tho still.
covcity4life
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we dont have many players who cand ribble past 3 and score. thats why we miss jones after all. when you try to dribble past 3 one will more often than not tackle you but imo the solution is not tos top doing it full stop and opt for easy pass every time
but like i said he does pass too, jones goal vs notts county comes to mind too,so he can assist
i have no issue with people saying he can take his game to next level if he makes right decisions but that goes for alot of players, not sure it deserves a thread. not too mention everyone sticking boot in will be on their knees mouths open if he scores in the next game
but like i said he does pass too, jones goal vs notts county comes to mind too,so he can assist
i have no issue with people saying he can take his game to next level if he makes right decisions but that goes for alot of players, not sure it deserves a thread. not too mention everyone sticking boot in will be on their knees mouths open if he scores in the next game
Covstu
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I think we knew this about him prior to bringing him on board, JJ is equally that type of player but I think generally each quick footed player is. Nuddy back in the day used to drive me crazy with his head down sprinting at a defence, sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't. If he had that balance, he would be playing for Wolves and this is probably part of the reason we have him currently and stand a good chance of renewing his contract until end of the season. Equally if we are expecting an Armstrong type natural finisher then we will be disappointed.
With JJ out, we need to rethink how we approach our play and maybe duck can do some damage out wide with McNulty and another upfront?
With JJ out, we need to rethink how we approach our play and maybe duck can do some damage out wide with McNulty and another upfront?
Nick
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This is what happens when it is Nazon or Jones usually. "they are the only ones who do something" so its ok. I'd much rather we score 2 or 3 Crawley, Stevenage or Accrington type goals than 1 of his vs Swindon.
Yes, they may make something happen once every few games but they also stop things from happening most games.
People go apeshit about Biamou, but he came on against Luton and put through 2 perfectly weighted passes that if Nazon had on Saturday would have seen us potentially 2 goals better off.
steve82
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But that's all that come to mind... with saturdays assist. That don't mean he's not been constructive in the build up to goals tho as he has been involved in a few movements that we as a team has capitalised from.
As for taking players on yes we're getting thin on the ground for players with abilities to go past a man but we do have them.
Don't think you'll find anyone saying to not beat your man and just pass but beat your man, second man maybe but get your pass away before the law of averages says your running into trouble. But players who can do that and make the right decision will inevitably play higher up, those who don't stay lower league players.
Nick
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It's not always about doing stepovers and beating a man though, teams we have played against haven't had a Jodi Jones but still break us down and score. Sometimes playing the simple ball may not look as effective as taking on 3 players but it can put a player in a better position.
covcity4life
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Crawley, Stevenage or Accrington type goals - 2 of them are below us, betting money would be ona ccrington to join them by end of season. the best teams can do both and thats what cov have done all season, if you want to remove the magic goals i would disagree
as for biamou im a big fan of him and he does indeed lay on good assits. its possible to back all cov players and not find 1 to hate
steve82- we agree that nazon can improve,my point is hes better than most and doesnt enarly need a thread dedicated to him, unless its a case of admitting hes very good and thus fans want to be harder on him as hes capable of so much more rather than you shouldnt be in the team etc
as for biamou im a big fan of him and he does indeed lay on good assits. its possible to back all cov players and not find 1 to hate
steve82- we agree that nazon can improve,my point is hes better than most and doesnt enarly need a thread dedicated to him, unless its a case of admitting hes very good and thus fans want to be harder on him as hes capable of so much more rather than you shouldnt be in the team etc
Esoterica
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'Sticking the boot in' :emoji_joy:. You've got such a whiney victim mentality - why do you cry every time someone points out something that could be improved in a player? Football fans discussing aspects of a footballer's game on a football forum. Ooh the horror! His assist on Saturday came when we're already 1-0 down. He had two huge opportunities to pass it into acres within 10 minutes on Saturday and then when we go 1-0 up against that dire Crawley team it's game over. But instead we should ignore that and be thankful he made his 2nd assist since the opening game of the season at 1-0 down and one of his pot shots got deflected onto a post.
Esoterica
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Nick
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I mean their type goals against us, where they just pass it to the player who is free to tap it in rather than try and take everybody on.
Who hates him? Bit different pointing out when he could have put somebody else clean through multiple times.
steve82
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That's correct, it like I said in a earlier post it's easy to ball watch and think it's just JJ or Nazon doing the positive stuff.
People don't tend to look at what's happing around those players tho and focus on the ball or player with the ball.
Lots of positive work goes on off the ball to make things easier and space for the exciting positive player deemed running with the ball, but that goes unnoticed.
McNulty was "positive" in finding space and opening up the defence
covcity4life
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he doesnt need a thread dedicated to him is my point, hes not worse than other players, in fact hes better
as for haynes quotes its compltley different, i dont make threads about him, i dont go on about him 247 after a match and also........his stats dont prove me wrong like nazons do.
i agreed with the he could put someone clean through thing btw, just dont think it needs anything more than that particular line
but this thread is like barca forum saying messi should pass more(on a MUCH more downgraded level lol) whilst no threads about delfelou running ball out of play every game
as for haynes quotes its compltley different, i dont make threads about him, i dont go on about him 247 after a match and also........his stats dont prove me wrong like nazons do.
i agreed with the he could put someone clean through thing btw, just dont think it needs anything more than that particular line
but this thread is like barca forum saying messi should pass more(on a MUCH more downgraded level lol) whilst no threads about delfelou running ball out of play every game
covcity4life
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as you like seeing my past posts,have a search on mcnulty and i mention that he gets in good positions alot.
Nick
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Have you really just compared Nazon to Messi?