Any chance we will be seeing these kinds of celebration s anytime soon? (3 Viewers)

Otis

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what's wrong with a handshake?
It's not the 1930's any more, Clint.

We already have the slide, the stick out tongue, the cupped ear, the shirt over the head, the rocking the baby.

Have to say the NFL ones are much more inventive.
 

mechaishida

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I'd like to see extravagant, cringe worthy celebrations from the NFL to be mandatory in Rugby Union and League.

Shut up Ieuan, do a cutthroat and machine gun after your Try. Uh, butty.
 

clint van damme

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It's not the 1930's any more, Clint.

We already have the slide, the stick out tongue, the cupped ear, the shirt over the head, the rocking the baby.

Have to say the NFL ones are much more inventive.

I like that one where one player pretended to be a fish and another player is an angler reeling him in, think it may have been a non league team.

Remember when Zuniga unveiled his I love Jesus t shirt to the West end, not extravagant but certainly unexpected!
 

clint van damme

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You'd need to be going well in the league to get away with that or obvious questions about spending more time choreographing celebrations than actual training would definitely be asked.
 

Houchens Head

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Whatever happened to the good old days, when a player scored a goal and his team-mates would run up to him and pat him on the back with a "Well done, old man!".
 

Liquid Gold

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Thanks for those Otis, made me laugh.

Typically no Redskins ones because we're rarely good enough to get it in the end zone :emoji_disappointed:
 

Liquid Gold

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you've lost me now!
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Otis

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By the time Beavon scores a goal he will have forgotten the well choreographed routine he planned some 18 months ago.
 

singers_pore

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NFL - a 60 minute game that has 10 minutes of action and takes 4 hours to complete. It’s unwatchable without a finger placed on the fast forward button.

NHL is far superior as a form of entertainment.
 

Otis

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NFL - a 60 minute game that has 10 minutes of action and takes 4 hours to complete. It’s unwatchable without a finger placed on the fast forward button.

NHL is far superior as a form of entertainment.
All about opinions isn't it.

I personally think it is the best game on the planet.

I don't mind NHL but it is so much more limited in the way the game can be played and the things you can do on the ice.

American football is much more tactical and can surprise you with trick plays and fake punts etc.

Best game of sport out there for me by a long chalk. As I say, I don't mind ice hockey and could watch a game, same too with baseball.

Only popular US game I don't like is basketball and it's for those same reasons, that of the fact it is more limited in its gameplay.
 

ccfcway

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NFL - a 60 minute game that has 10 minutes of action and takes 4 hours to complete. It’s unwatchable without a finger placed on the fast forward button.

NHL is far superior as a form of entertainment.

don't agree, but this forum is all about opinions. I love NFL, its 3rd behind Football and Darts
 

Otis

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don't agree, but this forum is all about opinions. I love NFL, its 3rd behind Football and Darts
I have NFL above football. If they could sort out all the cheating, diving, feigning injury, timewasting etc, then I think football might well be back top.

Too much wrong in the game at the moment. You have to ask yourself how many exciting, good games of football have we witnessed at the Ricoh.

I bet over the last 3 years it is less than a total of 10.

Such a shame.

I watch the NFL and so many games go right down to the wire.
 

ccfcway

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I have NFL above football. If they could sort out all the cheating, diving, feigning injury, timewasting etc, then I think football might well be back top.

Too much wrong in the game at the moment. You have to ask yourself how many exciting, good games of football have we witnessed at the Ricoh.

I bet over the last 3 years it is less than a total of 10.

Such a shame.

I watch the NFL and so many games go right down to the wire.

you've caught me at a bad time, tonight's Arsenal v Man Utd was fantastic.,

Also, CCFC are at little league level...
 

Otis

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you've caught me at a bad time, tonight's Arsenal v Man Utd was fantastic.,

Also, CCFC are at little league level...
It was, I watched it. How many really exciting games are there though in reality ?

Football is thrilling when it is open and end to end and exciting, but how often do we see that?

And it's not just about City now. Cast your mind back to the Championship. We didn't see many really good games then either.
 

ccfcway

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It was, I watched it. How many really exciting games are there though in reality ?

Football is thrilling when it is open and end to end and exciting, but how often do we see that?

And it's not just about City now. Cast your mind back to the Championship. We didn't see many really good games then either.

today, I have watched England v australia in rugby league, England in the 7's in Dubai, Chelsea v newcastle, wales v South Africa, arsenal v man utd, and now watching real Madrid struggling to break down bilbao, whilst that Arsenal game was great, the rugby league final was something else this morning
 
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Adge

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don't agree, but this forum is all about opinions. I love NFL, its 3rd behind Football and Darts
Football 1st and then darts second. Snooker used to be third when Jimmy White was in his prime. Bet most people now couldn't probably name 5 snooker players.
 

singers_pore

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All about opinions isn't it.

I personally think it is the best game on the planet.

I don't mind NHL but it is so much more limited in the way the game can be played and the things you can do on the ice.

American football is much more tactical and can surprise you with trick plays and fake punts etc.

Best game of sport out there for me by a long chalk. As I say, I don't mind ice hockey and could watch a game, same too with baseball.

Only popular US game I don't like is basketball and it's for those same reasons, that of the fact it is more limited in its gameplay.

Through my job I get offered free tickets for USC Trojans which is the biggest American football team in Los Angeles. Despite that Trojans is just a college team, it is bigger than the NFL teams in LA, the Rams and Chargers. I went to one Trojans game with my son and we left in the third quarter because it was so dull. I don't bother taking up the offers of free tickets because I am not going to waste 4 hours of my time waiting for 10 minutes action. The Wall Street Journal has calculated that the average NFL game includes only 11 minutes of actual playing time.

I do watch Rams and Trojans games on TV but only with a fast forward button so as to skip the 3 hours and 50 minutes where everyone is standing around scratching their arse. The time wasting in NFL is also a huge bug bear with me and is far worse than real football.

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Otis

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Through my job I get offered free tickets for USC Trojans which is the biggest American football team in Los Angeles. Despite that Trojans is just a college team, it is bigger than the NFL teams in LA, the Rams and Chargers. I went to one Trojans game with my son and we left in the third quarter because it was so dull. I don't bother taking up the offers of free tickets because I am not going to waste 4 hours of my time waiting for 10 minutes action. The Wall Street Journal has calculated that the average NFL game includes only 11 minutes of actual playing time.

I do watch Rams and Trojans games on TV but only with a fast forward button so as to skip the 3 hours and 50 minutes where everyone is standing around scratching their arse. The time wasting in NFL is also a huge bug bear with me and is far worse than real football.

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That's a bit false though isn't it. You are talking about time wasted rather than players time wasting. Two completely different things.

You can't for the best part, deliberately time waste in American football because it is all on the clock and the clock stops at the end of many plays.

Time wasting in football is the deliberate act of trying to stop play and preventing play from taking place.
 

Liquid Gold

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I'm reasonably new to NFL so I might be going through a honeymoon period but I find the game thrilling, easy on par with football. The intricacies of the tactics, the explosiveness of the play, the tension, the brilliant plays and painful mistakes, it has it all. You have players that can run 100 meters in 10 seconds coming up against guys diving head first at them with the power of a car crash, players can literally jump over one another. The draft system is so attractive too, the worst teams get first choice on new players each year so everybody has the chance to succeed and yet still some teams manage consistent brilliance. The salary cap too means you can't just sign all the best players which makes the teams more even and games much closer. The excitement doesn't just come down to scoring either, getting past that first down marker at any point in the game is such a buzz.

Like Otis said, football, when played at it's best in the spirit of the game, probably shades it but so often you just get cheating, time wasting and awful decisions for the team with the best resources to get a 1-0.
 

singers_pore

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That's a bit false though isn't it. You are talking about time wasted rather than players time wasting. Two completely different things.

You can't for the best part, deliberately time waste in American football because it is all on the clock and the clock stops at the end of many plays.

Time wasting in football is the deliberate act of trying to stop play and preventing play from taking place.

It’s also the deliberate time wasting. For example running down the clock on every scrimmage when your own side is winning. And in the last minute of the game when the QB of the winning team goes down on one knee for each down. And running down the clock right before calling a timeout. The commentators are always on about ‘running down the clock’ so it is a deliberate action.
 

CJ_covblaze

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I like that one where one player pretended to be a fish and another player is an angler reeling him in, think it may have been a non league team.

Remember when Zuniga unveiled his I love Jesus t shirt to the West end, not extravagant but certainly unexpected!

That was Juan Sara wasn’t it?

I don’t understand why players stick their tongue out whilst celebrating. As for dabbing I’d rather see them score an own goal than see someone do that whilst playing for a team I support.
 

clint van damme

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That was Juan Sara wasn’t it?

I don’t understand why players stick their tongue out whilst celebrating. As for dabbing I’d rather see them score an own goal than see someone do that whilst playing for a team I support.

I think Juan Sara as away at Forest, but I could be wrong.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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NFL as a day out is excellent, the experience is top notch but it must be remembered that it is an eight game home season unless your team reaches the play offs.
The game itself is mind numbing, tactical and to me boring.
Its a game of athletic chess and as an entertainment reminds me of Coventry v Crawley last week but with time outs.
 

Otis

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It’s also the deliberate time wasting. For example running down the clock on every scrimmage when your own side is winning. And in the last minute of the game when the QB of the winning team goes down on one knee for each down. And running down the clock right before calling a timeout. The commentators are always on about ‘running down the clock’ so it is a deliberate action.
There is a bit of that for sure, the running the clock down, but that is just the same as taking the ball into the corner flags in football.

The scale of cheating and feigning injury and diving and time wasting in football makes American football pale in significance.

The great thing about the NFL is the changing of the rules and reviewing of the rules constantly, constantly trying to improve the game. Trying to get rule changes to sort out what is wrong in football is like trying to walk through treacle. It's ridiculous.

The NFL see what isn't working and change the rules in order to try and make the game better. With football there seems to be a reluctance to change.

Professional fouls where someone deliberately trips someone, or who pulls them back by the shirt, or body checks them, all without absolutely any intention to get the ball simply HAS to be a red card. It's ludicrous that they are not deemed so.

The timewasting we saw last week at the Ricoh against Crawley was truly, truly shocking and the ref did nothing.

Football could be great, but we are forever dragging our heels and the stakes are so high these days.

I saw a clear penalty yesterday on Danny Wellbeck and the ref missed it. Video replay would have corrected that decision. Yeah, sure they are now brining that in, but it's taken ages and we certainly won't get it in League One an Two.

Best rule they can come up with now, as I suggested the other day, is to have the ref's watch connected to the scoreboard clock. Every time the ref stops his watch the scoreboard clock stops. The players themselves then will see when they amble off after being subbed that they are gaining nothing.

When the ball ends up in the throw in takers hands, the ref stops his watch and in turn the scoreboard clock stops too and the ref doesn't start his watch again until the throw is taken. That would stop timewasting on throw ins. Add to that, that a throw in taker is given say 6 seconds to take the throw once he has the ball.
 

bawtryneal

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NFL - a 60 minute game that has 10 minutes of action and takes 4 hours to complete. It’s unwatchable without a finger placed on the fast forward button.

NHL is far superior as a form of entertainment.

Have you ever been to a live game
English football could learn a thing or two about crowd participation and entertainment.
I have been to three Tampa Bay Bucs games and a great afternoon out.
Beats a cold day at the soleless Ricoh for sure.
 

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