He hasn’t carried out his promises made when he left the EDL to carry out a more moderate discourse.
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He hasn’t carried out his promises made when he left the EDL to carry out a more moderate discourse.
clint van damme
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but there were some very extreme groups at the march yesterday including generation identity. Again, he can't be responsible if they turn up but it's the sort of supporter he attracts.
shmmeee
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I think you just proved his point.
If it’s drivel you’ll have no issues proving it so. What you mean is “I have no answer and that makes me uncomfortable about my views and Id rather not face that” or just plain “I don’t understand”. Either of which proves his point.
Tommo72
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He’s taken a very different path and he’s highlighted plenty
Not at all, come across similar views before and debated the hell out of it but today I cba, it’s not complicated.
I wasn't suggesting a competition between radical dickheads on both sides.. ..but sadly the UK government has created just that by being so weak and blinded by allowing a build up of separatist and radical Muslims to practically take over whole areas of the UK and try and run them how they like. Many of their menfolk have then gone on to abuse members of other communities based on their belief that they are superior and untouchable. The opposite to this can be seen in the delightful specimens of some of those marchers who now think they are some kind of liberators.
Tommo72
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Yep I agree.
People follow him for different reasons I guess and no he can’t be responsible for individuals etc. Clearly he appeals right across the board and that’s apparent in his huge following and the speed in which it’s grown.
skybluetony176
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People who march in his name are part of the problem not part of the cure. They’re even more insignificant than TR.
He didn’t bring anything to attention. The cases he films have always always been reported on when up and coming. How do you think he knows about them? He then waits until the trial starts and as is normal in all gang trials regardless of the crime that involve multiple trials of multiple people a media blackout is called so none of the trials and individuals can claim that they’ve been prejudiced by reporting of one of the previous trials and therefore couldn’t receive a fair trial and get of on a technicality. This is when TR pretends to people of less intelligence than him that the media won’t cover it and he’s a hero. The fact that the media did cover the build up, can’t cover the trial while it’s happening and will cover it in full when the media ban is lifted which will be when the series of proceedings have reached their conclusion and sentences have been handed down is lost on people who think that TR is intelligent regardless of how intelligent they consider themselves to be.
Frankly it it’s a very cheap trick and I don’t think anyone who falls for it should consider themselves intelligent. As with the magician cutting the woman in half it really doesn’t take a great deal of intelligence to see its a trick. He’s even admittined it in court twice now, he’s telling you it’s a trick and you’re still buying the illusion.
clint van damme
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do you think there are no go areas in the UK for non muslims?
I have a friend who is muslim and he told me there are predominantly Indian estates in Yorkshire which are no go areas for Pakistanis and Bangladeshis and vice versa.
skybluetony176
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the problem is he attracts racist and extreme right wingers.
Look at the videos of marchers attacking police yesterday, aren't these the people who are supposed to be concerned with upholding British law?
Look at this fella from yesterday
if anyone knows him, can you tell him that he needs to have a word with his tattooist, Hitlers thumb is on the wrong side of his hand.
Hopefully his tattooist just realised what a dick this individual is and did it deliberately to prove the point.
Tommo72
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Using intelligence levels is a poor angle to come from, just because you disagree with a viewpoint it doesn’t necessarily make you any more or less intelligent. I’m sure he appeals to all ‘intelligence’ levels.....
clint van damme
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but he clearly broke the law and pleaded guilty, you've got to question the mentality of people rioting for him the be released.
I think he got himself jailed on purpose to play the martyr to be honest. These men were in court to be tried. If they got off and he thought the verdict was wrong or of they were sentenced and he believed it was too lenient then I could understand him getting involved.
But British justice, (the justice system he purports to care so much about), was taking it's course, why get involved?
Tommo72
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I don’t disagree with that, he clearly compromised himself doing what he did. I’m not necessarily of the mindset that he should be released etc but I do agree with a lot of the points he makes.
Yes I do and your friend pretty much confirms that these enclaves exist. I know white folk who lived in areas of Bradford. The Muslims would start to buy up the houses in a street until they had most of them then they would intimidate those remaining non Muslims to sell to their community. This was happening 30 years ago !
skybluetony176
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.., so long as they’re less intelligent than him. I stopped watching magicians when I reached a level of intelligence to realise it was an illusion. I can even tell you exactly when that was. It was Xmas 1982 and I got a Paul Daniels magic kit for Christmas. It contained a number of props and an instruction book that tells you how the illusion works. At the point that someone told me something wasn’t real (Paul Daniels on this occasion through the instruction book) I tend to stop buying into it. If TR stands up in court twice and pleads guilty to his illusion why do you continue to believe it?
clint van damme
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as much as I think he's an idiot I still think the sentence is harsh, or maybe it's not and it's just the leniency shown in some other cases which is so wrong.
Tommo72
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He’s obviously been targeted for some time now, he’s had a fair bit of police harrasment over time so it was always going to be more a case of when he ended up inside not if.
Sick Boy
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the problem is he attracts racist and extreme right wingers.
Look at the videos of marchers attacking police yesterday, aren't these the people who are supposed to be concerned with upholding British law?
Look at this fella from yesterday
if anyone knows him, can you tell him that he needs to have a word with his tattooist, Hitlers thumb is on the wrong side of his hand.
If these tossers don't agree with British way of life then they should get out of the country. They're an insult to those who died fighting to defeat Nazis in WW2. These, and the Muslims extremists discussed on this thread, are both sides of the same coin.
Sick Boy
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If you're on a suspended sentence you're going to get dealt with harshly
Tommo72
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Being tolerant is fine but we’ve become a big soft touch...
Sick Boy
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In which way?
Tommo72
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Just in terms of immigration over the last ten years and some questionable decisions over some of the individuals that have been allowed in. Nothing wrong with a multi-cultured society as long as it is governed fairly across the board and people are allowed here for the right reasons. Quite frankly it’s been a free for all and the government has created some unecessary problems.
Sick Boy
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I was under the impression that a lot of those convicted in the Rochdale scandal were second generation British-Pakistanis?
chiefdave
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This question has been asked before on this thread but not answered. Can you give a couple of examples of cases where the story was broken by Robinson as opposed to him starting up on something already covered by the media and / or following an arrest?
Sick Boy
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There's soft sentences and cover-ups of white paedophiles, just look at the likes Saville and the BBC and I'm sure there have been and are ongoing cover-ups going right up to the top of society.
I saw a news story of a local Cov teacher who was given 4 years for historic sex offences against a child, he will no doubt be out in a year.
I saw a news story of a local Cov teacher who was given 4 years for historic sex offences against a child, he will no doubt be out in a year.
chiefdave
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Yesterday was not exactly the finest moment for his supporters. People openly showing off nazi tattoos, crowds chanting Allah is a paedo etc hardly help when, as in this thread, people are claiming racism doesn't come in to it.
Its all well and good claiming people like that are nothing to do with Robinson but there needs to be some self policing.
Did have to laugh at one video I saw on social media. Chap was joining in the attack on the police who then retreated. Cue same chap then complaining that the police wouldn't be there to defend him if it all kicked off.
That happens with people with a record. Literally „the usual suspects“.
Hopefully his new sentence will be a bit more sensible.
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Seven years?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Suppose he‘ll wait for the retrial before saying he was wrong... should he be actually wrong. The appeal was about length of sentence and procedural mistakes.
singers_pore
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The original conviction has been quashed. It’s not just about the length of the sentence. Moreover the appeal court found he was never even given an option to make a plea, yet all the media stated he pleaded guilty. And the gullible sheep on here lapped up whatever crap was spewed out by the media.