McNulty. (6 Viewers)

[Skyblueol]

Saw a thread on twitter of reading fans all slagging off McNulty saying he won’t play at all this year and they will be suprised if he scores 4. I can’t be the only one who has a feeling that I know how this might go. I personally can see McNulty coming back on loan in January with a view to buy. Personally think he shouldn’t have jumped ship and he may be regretting it now.

 

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[fernandopartridge]

Bloody hell, that sounds exactly like our esteemed lot from last season

 

[Deity]

He won’t come back to Cov but I bet he will come back to LG 1 at Sunderland or similar.

 

[Nick]

Swap deal for Bakayoka after we have hammered him and he hopefully scores a few?

 

[ConnorDevine]

that's exactly how he started with us to be fair. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable having him back somehow, be like taking back a cheating ex

 

[cc84cov]

Problem is money talks hence his move...we won’t be able to match his wage even if he ever did become available for loan.

 

[covcity4life]

How many minutes has he had there?

 

[tisza]

needs time to settle. foolish writing him off this early.

 

[Astute]

Personally think he shouldn’t have jumped ship and he may be regretting it now.

What wage was he on with us and what is he on now?

I suppose all those who have a go at him for leaving wouldn't take a job elsewhere for a massive pay rise.

There is no loyalty in football anymore. Either from clubs or players unless it is about what they can get out of a deal or new contract. Why should our players be any different?

 

[Dhinsa's_Millions]

that's exactly how he started with us to be fair. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable having him back somehow, be like taking back a cheating ex

Unless they come back and win twice at Wembley in successive seasons!

 

[Liquid Gold]

Moved too soon in my opinion. Not many make the jump from league 2 to the championship. He wasn't even wanted by a league 1 team when we picked him up. The argument about us plebs moving for more money isn't really relevant, we have a 40-50 year working life and a move to a job we're not ready for wouldn't necessarily affect us long term. A footballer could ruin his chances at playing at a higher level consistently by going there before being ready. A year in league one on an improved contract in a team built to play to his strengths and with fans behind him would have done his career no harm and possibly meant for a better move next summer when he's more prepared. Moving to a team tipped to struggle with a manager known for changing his team around and having defensive tactics was always going to be tough for him.

 

[Nick]

He won't personally be regretting it. He has a young family and will be on shed loads more per week than he would get here or in League 1.

Wasn't it a 4 year deal as well? If he turns out shit for them they need to pay him to get him off the payroll. He can see that out, make his money then go back up to Scotland at 29 and be comfortable.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

He did well to get a move to such a high placed club and getting paid a big wedge for not doing a lot

 

[Liquid Gold]

He won't personally be regretting it. He has a young family and will be on shed loads more per week than he would get here or in League 1.

Wasn't it a 4 year deal as well? If he turns out shit for them they need to pay him to get him off the payroll. He can see that out, make his money then go back up to Scotland at 29 and be comfortable.

Do you not think someone of these players who happily sit on the bench and take their wages look back on their career after they retire and wish they actually played some football?

 

[Nick]

Do you not think someone of these players who happily sit on the bench and take their wages look back on their career after they retire and wish they actually played some football?

Guess it depends on the type of player, judging by his agent saying he would go in a strop if he wasn't allowed it makes it even harder to guess.

 

[Magwitch]

So many football fans are arseholes, McNulty scored 28 last season played one and a half games for Reading and because he hadn’t bagged a hat-trick and assisted in a couple of more goals he’s a failure

 

[Liquid Gold]

So many football fans are arseholes, McNulty scored 28 last season played one and a half games for Reading and because he hadn’t bagged a hat-trick and assisted in a couple of more goals he’s a failure

Reading fans saying in not Cov fans. Do you think they give a shit how many goals he got in league 2 last year? Football fans are aresholes though you're right. Bakayoko 2 games 1 goal and being called a carthorse by our fans.

 

[Suffolk sky blues]

Big money long deal

 

[pastythegreat]

I can see the "He's earning a shed load more money" argument, but I've never understood it tbf.
I see it like this, even as a L2/L1 player, your salary is still double that of the national average. If your clever and don't live a massively lavish lifestyle (not to say you can't enjoy yourself) within a 10/12 year career you should really be able to set yourself up for when you retire. Marcus Tudgauy for example invested in property. If you can acquire 4 or 5 3 bed semis in your time and have them rented out at £650-700 a piece, you'd still be bringing in roughly £3.5k a month. Still higher than the average salary.
And besides, who at 6 years old dreamt of being a professional footballer and playing for their team? And who had that dream because they "wanted to make as much money as possible"? Anyone? No, thought not. It was because you wanted to play football. Not sit on the bench earning a packet load! Footballers today are selling out their boyhood dream for greed.

 

[skybluesam66]

I can see the "He's earning a shed load more money" argument, but I've never understood it tbf.
I see it like this, even as a L2/L1 player, your salary is still double that of the national average. If your clever and don't live a massively lavish lifestyle (not to say you can't enjoy yourself) within a 10/12 year career you should really be able to set yourself up for when you retire. Marcus Tudgauy for example invested in property. If you can acquire 4 or 5 3 bed semis in your time and have them rented out at £650-700 a piece, you'd still be bringing in roughly £3.5k a month. Still higher than the average salary.
And besides, who at 6 years old dreamt of being a professional footballer and playing for their team? And who had that dream because they "wanted to make as much money as possible"? Anyone? No, thought not. It was because you wanted to play football. Not sit on the bench earning a packet load! Footballers today are selling out their boyhood dream for greed.

so if somebody offered to treble your wage - but you were then the tea boy - would you not take it ?

 

[pastythegreat]

so if somebody offered to treble your wage - but you were then the tea boy - would you not take it ?

It depends what I was doing. If I was scratching around in a dimly lit office on minimum wage then yes, I'd snap your arm off. If I was already earning a better than average wage in a job that I loved then I'd have to seriously think about it. Because the thing is, I leave my job (which I'm good at) to start making tea, soon enough my gaffer cottons on that I'm pretty shit at making tea and I'm off out the door. Back on my arse trying to find that enjoyable less paid job again anyways

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[Deleted member 5849]

so if somebody offered to treble your wage - but you were then the tea boy - would you not take it ?

Bad example really. I wouldn't do that. But if it was to do the same job...

And every footballer has to have the confidence they're good enough to get in the first team, surely? And if McNulty *isn't* good enough for Reading, he'll just end up back at the level he'd have been at, anyway!

 

[Astute]

Do you not think someone of these players who happily sit on the bench and take their wages look back on their career after they retire and wish they actually played some football?

Heart v head?

Good player at Division 4 level. Spent a bit of time in Division 3. Enjoyed playing so stayed at the level he is decent at. Never made much money but enjoyed playing. Had to work after retiring from football.

Good player at Division 4 level. Got a contract with a Championship side. Secured his future. If wise doesn't have to work after retiring from football. Could have played more games though.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Heart v head?

Good player at Division 4 level. Spent a bit of time in Division 3. Enjoyed playing so stayed at the level he is decent at. Never made much money but enjoyed playing. Had to work after retiring from football.

Good player at Division 4 level. Got a contract with a Championship side. Secured his future. If wise doesn't have to work after retiring from football. Could have played more games though.

Isn't it something like 60% of footballers go bankrupt within 2 years of retirement though. More after that too. Most of them end up with nothing but some of them don't even get to have played the game.

 

[Paxman II]

It's not about the money. McNulty had a fantastic season and showed great awareness and movement plus lots of very well taken goals. Easily can play in the championship and it will take time as any player will need to adapt. He will come good there given enough opportunity.

 

[hill83]

I can see the "He's earning a shed load more money" argument, but I've never understood it tbf.
I see it like this, even as a L2/L1 player, your salary is still double that of the national average. If your clever and don't live a massively lavish lifestyle (not to say you can't enjoy yourself) within a 10/12 year career you should really be able to set yourself up for when you retire. Marcus Tudgauy for example invested in property. If you can acquire 4 or 5 3 bed semis in your time and have them rented out at £650-700 a piece, you'd still be bringing in roughly £3.5k a month. Still higher than the average salary.
And besides, who at 6 years old dreamt of being a professional footballer and playing for their team? And who had that dream because they "wanted to make as much money as possible"? Anyone? No, thought not. It was because you wanted to play football. Not sit on the bench earning a packet load! Footballers today are selling out their boyhood dream for greed.

Lovely stuff but I’ll take the cash please.

 

[pastythegreat]

Lovely stuff but I’ll take the cash please.

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[Terry Gibson's perm]

Reading fans saying in not Cov fans. Do you think they give a shit how many goals he got in league 2 last year? Football fans are aresholes though you're right. Bakayoko 2 games 1 goal and being called a carthorse by our fans.

2 games one penalty and didn’t look like scoring apart from that

 

[ajsccfc]

A boyhood dream of playing football probably envisions playing at a high level more than it does settling at a nice level and then moving into property.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I’m not sure why he’d regret a move just 4 games into a season...

... it could the case that he looks back at this move in the future with regret if things don’t pan out well.

This said, if you don’t test yourself at the highest level you can, as an athlete, you’d be sure to regret that too.

We got a good price for him, so on our end, I’m not distraught.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

He won't personally be regretting it. He has a young family and will be on shed loads more per week than he would get here or in League 1.

Wasn't it a 4 year deal as well? If he turns out shit for them they need to pay him to get him off the payroll. He can see that out, make his money then go back up to Scotland at 29 and be comfortable.

He might professionally regret it, though. If he writes off the best 4 years of his career, sure, he might be set up pretty well financially, but he'll have failed to make the most of a very short career and probably regret that for the rest of his life.

 

[HerneBayGaz]

Deja vu 'Marc' Deja vu

 

[Astute]

Isn't it something like 60% of footballers go bankrupt within 2 years of retirement though. More after that too. Most of them end up with nothing but some of them don't even get to have played the game.

Mainly the top players that are used to spending millions a year. They can't stop spending but don't have the millions coming in.

That is why I used the word 'wise'

 

[Astute]

He might professionally regret it, though. If he writes off the best 4 years of his career, sure, he might be set up pretty well financially, but he'll have failed to make the most of a very short career and probably regret that for the rest of his life.

But financially would have made the most from his ability if he doesn't make the grade at a higher level.

How about if he didn't make the jump to the Championship? Would he regret not taking his chance and the financial rewards that comes with it if he never got the chance again?

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

But financially would have made the most from his ability if he doesn't make the grade at a higher level.

How about if he didn't make the jump to the Championship? Would he regret not taking his chance and the financial rewards that comes with it if he never got the chance again?

Depends how much professional pride he has really, doesn't it? If he doesn't care about playing again and raking in the dough is his only priority, fair play to him, although that is one of the things that is wrong with the modern game-too much money and players with £ signs in their eyes. Personally, I always admire players who take a pay cut as "they want to be playing football" rather than sitting on their arse being paid loads to not play.