The 10,500..... (16 Viewers)

[covcity4life]

Bournemouth get 10k for prem games

We deserve to be above them again lol

 

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[Nick]

Bournemouth get 10k for prem games

We deserve to be above them again lol

Doesn't their stadium only hold about that?

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

I get a season ticket to make things easier. Got three grandsons who I make JSB’ s and take two of them with me each game.
I was lucky enough to retire early,so am now a professional holiday maker:shamefullyembarrased:
When I am away I get son in law to take kids so ticket is never wasted.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Excuses, excuses. Poor gates IMO. Look at Sunderland, relegated twice, ownership issues, look at Portsmouth at capacity or near as home game, steadfast support. Barnsley just a few thousand bigger population than Nuneaton yet bigger gates than us despite relegation.
If we were in the Championship the excuse would be "we are not in the Premier League"
Those that go have my utmost respect, those that say they support Coventry City but avoid the Ricoh like they would catch ebola have my contempt.
This team deserve better and the manager deserves better.

Agree. We wouldn't sell anywhere near what Bradford City have sold in season tickets if we matched their policy. Every City has shift workers. Every team occasionally plays on Tuesday AND Saturday at home which means supporters fork out a lot of money. Every city has unemployment. We can't keep using this as an excuse. What we do have is a larger than average population which doesn't want to support their local team.

 

[pusbccfc]

Yeah, agree with a few others. The gates are poor and always have been.

We've all tried to work it out for years. We've had excuses like SISU, boycotting, Wasps, parking, ticket prices, people not liking the Ricoh, unemployment levels, lack of success etc.

The fact is, I think we have to own up and admit our home support always has been poor. Considering our last 15 years, we've had success in the last 2 seasons. No one can argue that the past 18 months haven't been exciting.

I still consider our away support strong. We have a strong element of people in Coventry that enjoy taking over small towns and spending the day on the piss. I'm not surprised at quick ticket sales at Walsall and Burton.

The Wembley trips certainly show potential. Coventry is one of the biggest one club cities and there is a catchment area easily capible of selling 30,000 a week in the Premier League.

With the current form, we should be getting 15,000 really.

 

[shmmeee]

Question: Has any club significantly grown their fan base without either giving away tickets or achieving success on the pitch?

If so, what did they do? Not counting MK Dons for several reasons (existing fan base however small and new town with no historic club)

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

I don’t think this would make a big difference but I’d be interested to see what a good travel network would do for attendances. I live 30 minutes from the Ricoh on a good run, it takes 2hrs 45 minutes if I wanted to get the train, an absolute joke as I would love to do it that way.
It might be me having unrealistic expectations, but it’d be nice to see the club get out into towns like Stratford, Kenilworth, Warwick and Leamington and try and get any potential fans involved. Even if it was offering a fan bus service from the towns to the Ricoh on a match day. I absolutely love football, so it’s not a big ask for me, but for your average sports/football fan, it’s a massive pain in the arse to get there if a) you don’t drive or b) you want to make it a social event and enjoy a beer or two before / after in the casino


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[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

that is 1-0-1 but S&D not elasticity
if you went to 1-0-2 you would have found out what elasticity meant

Lol, no. You're getting supply and demand and price elasticity mixed up.

price elasticity of demand
noun
1) Price elasticity of demand is a measure used in economics to show the responsiveness, or elasticity, of the quantity demanded of a good or service to a change in its price when nothing but the price changes.
2) a measure of the effect of a price change or a change in the quantity supplied on the demand for a product or service.

1-0-1 seems to be doing me just fine, chap.

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

Lol, no. You're getting supply and demand and price elasticity mixed up.

price elasticity of demand
noun
1) Price elasticity of demand is a measure used in economics to show the responsiveness, or elasticity, of the quantity demanded of a good or service to a change in its price when nothing but the price changes.
2) a measure of the effect of a price change or a change in the quantity supplied on the demand for a product or service.

1-0-1 seems to be doing me just fine, chap.

But there is a very strong argument to say that season ticket sales are significantly price inelastic. There isn't really a substitute good if you support CCFC, football fans are famously territorial and you could raise season ticket prices by a substantial amount and the drop off wouldn't necessarily be relative

 

[Nick]

We saw it last time when the tickets were dirt cheap, the sales didn't go up enough to cover the loss.

 

[rob9872]

For me it's more about convenience. If you take into account the odd discounted game, the family tickets you could get from JSB's the odd game you miss there isn't as much in it as has been suggested, but so much less hassle. Also there are times when it's cold/wet and without a season ticket you might think stuff it, but having one makes me make the effort rather than waste it.

 

[Adge]

The money Man City will get for it being on TV will probably be multiple times our income for the season. You could probably have no fans in the ground and they wouldn't make a loss.

Not certain the casual fan who is going up on a spur of the moment thing will give a hoot about Man City and the television money. All he will see is Man City in the Champions League =£26, or Coventry City v Accrington Stanley=£26.

 

[chiefdave]

Not certain the casual fan who is going up on a spur of the moment thing will give a hoot about Man City and the television money. All he will see is Man City in the Champions League =£26, or Coventry City v Accrington Stanley=£26.

If its spur of the moment won't they just look at our price and decide yes or no. Can't imagine people think 'I fancy going to the match this afternoon, let me just check what Man City charge in the Champions League first'.

 

[Adge]

If its spur of the moment won't they just look at our price and decide yes or no. Can't imagine people think 'I fancy going to the match this afternoon, let me just check what Man City charge in the Champions League first'.

Yep-but in comparison it makes our prices at L1 level seem a bit excessive.

 

[Nick]

Yep-but in comparison it makes our prices at L1 level seem a bit excessive.

If it is spur of the moment they won't be doing a price comparison though will they?

If my mate phones me to ask to go Go Karting or Paintballing for example I don't sit and compare how much it is compared to others.

 

[Adge]

There is no product “gulf” between paint balling.

 

[DionDublinsJockstrap]

Excuses, excuses. Poor gates IMO. Look at Sunderland, relegated twice, ownership issues, look at Portsmouth at capacity or near as home game, steadfast support. Barnsley just a few thousand bigger population than Nuneaton yet bigger gates than us despite relegation.
If we were in the Championship the excuse would be "we are not in the Premier League"
Those that go have my utmost respect, those that say they support Coventry City but avoid the Ricoh like they would catch ebola have my contempt.
This team deserve better and the manager deserves better.

I'm not sure how many others similar to me. Barely missed a game 1967-85 and then left the area. Return coincided with move to The Ricoh, and I had a season ticket until that debacle at home to Watford under Ady Boothroyd (or was it Chris Coleman).

There then followed a period of almost universal disillusionment, and do you know what - you find other things to do. This combined with the romance that the Premier League has taken out of football, and that SISU have compounded and you get out of the habit.

I have returned this season, and intend to get to most matches. Everyone has their thresholds for stopping going, and for returning.

For the direness of things over the last few years 10,500 is in my opinion a pretty good number. For infdividual matches we had less than that for top flight games ( I was at the Wimbledon game)

One final point about the romance of the game. In the 1970s in the top flight at the start of the season 50% of teams felt they could win the title,everyone thought they could push for Europe, and nobody thought that finishing outside of the relegation zone could be regarded as a success. There is the root of the problem for football in general.

 

[Nick]

There is no product “gulf” between paint balling.

There are some really shit ones and some really good ones. Same with Go Karting and other leisure things.

In fact, if you support a football team why would you have to compare with somebody like Man City to go as a spur of the moment?

 

[christonabike]

11k watching 3 rd division football and a pain to park is very good. How many did we used to get at Highfield rd when we were in the premiership? It was a walk from town, a piece of cake to park by the ground and plenty of boozers nearby. Yet I’m sure before Big Ron came 11k was the norm playing top sides?

 

[SkyBlueMatt]

Yep-but in comparison it makes our prices at L1 level seem a bit excessive.

They are excessive for league One, I paid £50 for two tickets on Saturday because my match package wouldn't work. Friends who are fans if other clubs are always surprised that's the price on the day.

Match packages and ST are good value but the prices need to be looked at. I'll be upgrading to a ST next year providing we've still got a home & robins is in charge.

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[Liquid Gold]

They are excessive for league One, I paid £50 for two tickets on Saturday because my match package wouldn't work. Friends who are fans if other clubs are always surprised that's the price on the day.

Match packages and ST are good value but the prices need to be looked at. I'll be upgrading to a ST next year providing we've still got a home & robins is in charge.

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They are not excessive for league one, they are slightly above average. If you go to Yeovil and don't want to stand you have to pay £25 for that hole.

Football is expensive in general but we're not an outlier, our prices are in line with the league and better value if you factor in the quality of facilities.

 

[Adge]

There are some really shit ones and some really good ones. Same with Go Karting and other leisure things.

In fact, if you support a football team why would you have to compare with somebody like Man City to go as a spur of the moment?

You we’re making the comparison initially. You said at £26 it doesn’t matter if nobody turns up at Man City?

 

[Nick]

You we’re making the comparison initially. You said at £26 it doesn’t matter if nobody turns up at Man City?

Yes, in reply to somebody mentioning the price at Man City.

 

[Adge]

They are not excessive for league one, they are slightly above average. If you go to Yeovil and don't want to stand you have to pay £25 for that hole.

Football is expensive in general but we're not an outlier, our prices are in line with the league and better value if you factor in the quality of facilities.

So we are paying for the facilities then? Ok, let’s play devils advocate-would you prefer to stand on a terrace for £15-£18 or sit in a seat (let’s say the Ricoh) for £26?
Think most would opt for the terrace.

 

[Adge]

Yes, in reply to somebody mentioning the price at Man City.

Yes, which in comparison for L1 football (Coventry City v Accrington Stanley) is good value to watch the Champions League at the Etihad for the same price (£26) :emoji_thumbsup:

 

[Nick]

So we are paying for the facilities then? Ok, let’s play devils advocate-would you prefer to stand on a terrace for £15-£18 or sit in a seat (let’s say the Ricoh) for £26?
Think most would opt for the terrace.

Yes, that's why clubs with both usually charge more. Even treacle charge you £2 to sit down.

 

[Nick]

Yes, which in comparison for L1 football (Coventry City v Accrington Stanley) is good value to watch the Champions League at the Etihad for the same price (£26) :emoji_thumbsup:

Even if you are a CCFC fan?

 

[Liquid Gold]

So we are paying for the facilities then? Ok, let’s play devils advocate-would you prefer to stand on a terrace for £15-£18 or sit in a seat (let’s say the Ricoh) for £26?
Think most would opt for the terrace.

What are you even on about now. I said that we're not even paying any more but we get better facilities. If were using your model let's rip some of the seats out and charge more as people would prefer it.

 

[shmmeee]

Yes, which in comparison for L1 football (Coventry City v Accrington Stanley) is good value to watch the Champions League at the Etihad for the same price (£26) :emoji_thumbsup:

There’s a reason CompareTheFootballMatch.com doesn’t exist.

 

[Liquid Gold]

It's £97 to watch Arsenal, not sure how that's relevant but neither is Man City.

 

[shmmeee]

Football clubs business model is more like a console manufacturer or tech company. Hook customers into your ecosystem and extract value over the lifetime.

You gotta spend your cash on acquisition, then squeeze the pips of the loyal base that can’t escape.

If you’re doing football as a business, that’s the model. Easy to join, hard to leave. Lots of upsells and extras.

 

[Nick]

Football clubs business model is more like a console manufacturer or tech company. Hook customers into your ecosystem and extract value over the lifetime.

You gotta spend your cash on acquisition, then squeeze the pips of the loyal base that can’t escape.

If you’re doing football as a business, that’s the model. Easy to join, hard to leave. Lots of upsells and extras.

First one's free

 

[shmmeee]

First one's free

Drug dealer is also an excellent analogy.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

I was at the Wimbledon game

#Me too

 

[shmmeee]

#Me too

I don’t think that’s how you’re supposed to use that hashtag H, unless Aidy Boothroyd touched you up.