Trump is here (7 Viewers)
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chiefdave
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To be fair most of Trumps press conferences are followed by his staff trying to back peddle from all the comments he's made up on the spot.
Sure those that were highly critical of Corbyn for allegedly refusing to meet Trump will be equally as critical of Trump now its transpired that Corbyn requested a meeting and Trump refused.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
You mean the ones who went on about Corbyn and the IRA and then voted for a party who had no issues with putting forward a pro IRA candidate?
Yeah I’m sure they will be haha
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clint van damme
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Trump on a trade deal: "I think everything is on the table... NHS or anything else."
Johnnythespider
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Over my dead body, Oops
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
I see a lot of their leadership candidates have said it wouldn’t be on the table, has Johnson said anything about it? It’s inevitable it would be though, the USA will take full advantage of the UK.
RegTheDonk
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Agreed, Trump shouldn't have made it personal. Should have just said what the fuck has US policy got to do with you?
Don't agree at all with his slight towards minorities or women...but that over the top personality got him elected and he's following through. He's doing what he thinks is right for his country and if his country hate him so much and what he stands for, the Democrats will win next term.
I doubt anyone, Lab Tory Lib or Other, would put the NHS at risk in such an obvious way mate. Its the one thing just about every one of us would be appauled at and opposition parties would be all over it.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
I’m not sure there’s going to be a lot of choice in the matter.
ccfc92
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Is that the pig shouting Nazi Scum in some old guys face, then he gets milkshaked?
Nick
Administrator
Yeah, I dont usually endorse hitting women but in a situation like that Id have pissed myself if he backhanded her.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Think you've under estimated both the greed and hubris of UK politicians and the rank stupidity of large swathes of the UK public.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong though.
ccfc92
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It's embarrassing, how can she get so worked up over a US president that has 0 effect on her life.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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As much as Trump is a vile human being doesn't have the intelligence to run a school fete, he is (somehow) the elected leader of a democratic nation and should be treated as such by our representatives.
However, this thing about trade and being an ally, his speech (and those of many of the American's they've had on the news) suggests that America sees us more as a lackey, there to do their bidding and agree with them. If that's whats in it for us I'm not particularly interested. There's lots of stuff about America to like, plenty more to not like either. Gun laws, attitudes and rights for minorities/religions/women etc, foreign and border policy, a fanatical religious zealotry, a complete and total belief in capitalism and consumerism. Health and safety laws that kill more Americans each year than Terrorism has killed in total ever, but a refusal to provide public healthcare for their populace who must buy it themselves.
When you look at the vast majority of the US it's ideals are far more akin to those of Victorian Britain than a modern progressive society.
However, this thing about trade and being an ally, his speech (and those of many of the American's they've had on the news) suggests that America sees us more as a lackey, there to do their bidding and agree with them. If that's whats in it for us I'm not particularly interested. There's lots of stuff about America to like, plenty more to not like either. Gun laws, attitudes and rights for minorities/religions/women etc, foreign and border policy, a fanatical religious zealotry, a complete and total belief in capitalism and consumerism. Health and safety laws that kill more Americans each year than Terrorism has killed in total ever, but a refusal to provide public healthcare for their populace who must buy it themselves.
When you look at the vast majority of the US it's ideals are far more akin to those of Victorian Britain than a modern progressive society.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
I don't think you're right to say he has 0 effect on her life.
US policy affects everyone.
Not saying I agree with her antics but what any US president does has a massive worldwide effect.
Blair was in charge of a much smaller country and managed to set the world on fire.
Nick
Administrator
Johnnythespider
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If he gets his hands on the NHS he could have a very serious effect on her life.
ccfc92
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I do see your point, but come on. What realistically effects her from Trump being US president in her day to day life?
If she was a black or latina woman living in the US or an immigrant living in the US, I would agree with you.
ccfc92
Well-Known Member
I highly doubt it.
Nick
Administrator
Doubt it's as much as her blood pressure or gobbing off in people's faces will.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
Well-Known Member
I agree entirely on him refusing to go to the state dinner etc. and that the problem of anti-Semitism in his party he should be doing more and being more vocal on the issue.
However, it does seem to be that this is being far more heavily focused on in the media than similar issues in other parties, Conservatives esp, who still have a massive Anti-Islamic problem and issues with anti-Semitism, racism, homophobia, misogny etc. It doesn't help when so many prominent pro-Corbyn supporters give an open goal with comments/tweets.
I'm not sure if Corbyn is anti-Semitic, just anti-Israel. The IHRA definition of anti-Semitism does suggest that any criticism of Israel or Israeli policy is anti-Semitic. Netenyahu often deflects any criticism aimed at him as purely anti-Semitism. Palestinian behaviour in the region leaves a lot to be desired, but Israeli behaviour even more so. Occupation, massively over the top responses to outbreaks of Palestinian violence. They use the support of the US to act like bullies in the region.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
How do you know what her back story is?
It doesn't just have to affect her, maybe she just has empathy with others that are suffering or she perceives as suffering.
Maybe she's just a nuisance, we'll never know
ccfc92
Well-Known Member
I don't, but most people can make an educated guess. I imagine it's the latter.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
The thing is I can't remember this much fuss when a protesting trump supporter murdered a woman in Charlottesville.
I'd rather be jostled and milkshaked than smashed to fuck by a car
ccfc92
Well-Known Member
Who's making a fuss?
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
People moaning about protesters on here.
ccfc92
Well-Known Member
Ah okay.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
It's a terrifying thought.
62% of bankruptcies in the US involve debt incurred for medical bills.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Yeah it’s crazy some want to leave the EU and then embrace America and be dictated to by them and their America First agenda, the UK won’t stand a chance in trade negotiations.
skybluetony176
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Just watched the press conference and if anyone is thinking that Trump see’s brexit anything other than an opportunity to rape the U.K. they need their head checking. That’s the best advert for cancelling brexit ever.
Brexit was always about the rape of the U.K. and all while people were distracted by their prejudice and anger.
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