England cricket 2019 (12 Viewers)

[ccfc92]

Looks like.we are going to take a lead. Very happy to be proved wrong, because I thought we might well have folded today.

So what happens now, do England bat from tomorrow morning?

If so, when do they stop batting? (Excluding the obvious all out)

 

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[tisza]

Day for the Test purists.
Batsmen having to fight against a top quality attack. (does suggest England could struggle bowling next with only 4 frontline bowlers).

 

[Paul Anthony]

So what happens now, do England bat from tomorrow morning?

If so, when do they stop batting? (Excluding the obvious all out)

We bat until the captain declares the score ( the point he believes our score is high enough that Australia will struggle to catch up).

 

[ccfc92]

We bat until the captain declares the score ( the point he believes our score is high enough that Australia will struggle to catch up).

Is there anything to stop England keep batting if they don't declare the score?

I love playing cricket, but it's the intricate rules/format of test cricket etc I don't know.

Like, I don't understand how it can be declared a draw.

 

[Paul Anthony]

Is there anything to stop England keep batting if they don't declare the score?

I love playing cricket, but it's the intricate rules/format of test cricket etc I don't know.

Like, I don't understand how it can be declared a draw.

This is where my knowledge gets a bit confused, I must admit.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Is there anything to stop England keep batting if they don't declare the score?

Nope - they can bat until the end of day five and score 1000 runs if they chose to. They just wouldn't win the game and it would be declared a draw.

Think of the end of day 5 as being the end of 90mins in a footy game. The game time has expired so you get a draw.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Day for the Test purists.
Batsmen having to fight against a top quality attack. (does suggest England could struggle bowling next with only 4 frontline bowlers).

Yep. I was worried about our batting being too attacking and limited overs based but they've played sensibly today and largely been rewarded for it.

 

[ccfc92]

Nope - they can bat until the end of day five and score 1000 runs if they chose to. They just wouldn't win the game and it would be declared a draw.

Think of the end of day 5 as being the end of 90mins in a footy game. The game time has expired so you get a draw.

So say England bat until end of day 4. Then let Aus have their second innings and they are still 100 runs behind England, its a draw or do England win?

I assume both teams have to have two innings to avoid a draw?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

So say England bat until end of day 4. Then let Aus have their second innings and they are still 100 runs behind England, its a draw or do England win?

I assume both teams have to have two innings to avoid a draw?

Yes it's a draw.

 

[SBAndy]

Yes. All 4 innings would have to be completed within the 5 days for a winner to be decided.

On a separate note, having watched the highlights this evening I’m trying to think of a less convincing century I’ve seen. I mean, fair play to Burns for his grit but there seemed to be a lot of luck involved with ball missing bat by millimetres repeatedly.

 

[Johnnythespider]

So say England bat until end of day 4. Then let Aus have their second innings and they are still 100 runs behind England, its a draw or do England win?

I assume both teams have to have two innings to avoid a draw?

No, if Australia are still 100 behind England's first innings total after their second innings they would lose the match.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

No, if Australia are still 100 behind England's first innings total after their second innings they would lose the match.

I assume he means if Australia aren't all out. If Australia are still 100 behind at the end of day 5 but still have wickets remaining it's a draw.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I'd recommend reading Bill Bryson's 'Down Under' bit on cricket. It's truly hilarious.

 

[Otis]

I assume he means if Australia aren't all out. If Australia are still 100 behind at the end of day 5 but still have wickets remaining it's a draw.

To be fair he did say AFTER their second innings.

 

[ccfc92]

I assume he means if Australia aren't all out. If Australia are still 100 behind at the end of day 5 but still have wickets remaining it's a draw.

That's it, hard to explain over here.

The draw result is mental to me....

 

[Otis]

That's it, hard to explain over here.

The draw result is mental to me....

It is hard to understand the first time you tell anyone. The fact that you can play for 7 hours a day and for 5 days and yet STILL no-one wins.

It is mental.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It's the fielding positions that I think put many off. You've got leg side and off side, which also means that leg side is on side. Then you've got things like third man, who is completely alone near the boundary and their complete opposite cow corner. You got silly, short and long fielding positions And of course all of these switch sides depending on if the batter is right or left handed. Plus a bowler bowling over or around the wicket, again depending on which arm he bowls with. Not to mention seam, swing, off-spin, leg spin, yorkers, beamers, bouncers, full tosses, googlys, doosras. Is someone a medium-fast or a fast-medium? Have they bowled length or full or short/back of a length?

And that's before you even get near lbw which makes offside look like the rules of guess who.

 

[Otis]

It's the fielding positions that I think put many off. You've got leg side and off side, which also means that leg side is on side. Then you've got things like third man, who is completely alone near the boundary and their complete opposite cow corner. You got silly, short and long fielding positions And of course all of these switch sides depending on if the batter is right or left handed. Plus a bowler bowling over or around the wicket, again depending on which arm he bowls with. Not to mention seam, swing, off-spin, leg spin, yorkers, beamers, bouncers, full tosses, googlys, doosras. Is someone a medium-fast or a fast-medium? Have they bowled length or full or short/back of a length?

And that's before you even get near lbw which makes offside look like the rules of guess who.

Still puzzles me at times does LBW.

 

[shepardo01]

...hoping for some help here please.
Got tickets for 4th day tomorrow. (Which was not looking likely after day one!)
Living in Rugby, what would be best way to get there (train/car?) If train, what is walk like from new st? If car, what are my parking options?
Cheers in advance guys! Any sensible help is very much appreciated!

 

[Grendel]

...hoping for some help here please.
Got tickets for 4th day tomorrow. (Which was not looking likely after day one!)
Living in Rugby, what would be best way to get there (train/car?) If train, what is walk like from new st? If car, what are my parking options?
Cheers in advance guys! Any sensible help is very much appreciated!

I don’t know if they do it for tests but I went to a World Cup game there and they had shuttle bus returns at new street for a fiver taking you straight to the ground

 

[shepardo01]

I don’t know if they do it for tests but I went to a World Cup game there and they had shuttle bus returns at new street for a fiver taking you straight to the ground

Cheers Grendel. Useful info thank you. Will try to look up if that is the case.

 

[Otis]

And here comes the usual collapse.

 

[Otis]

8 down now and only a lead of 16.

Needs to be 50+ at least I think.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

...hoping for some help here please.
Got tickets for 4th day tomorrow. (Which was not looking likely after day one!)
Living in Rugby, what would be best way to get there (train/car?) If train, what is walk like from new st? If car, what are my parking options?
Cheers in advance guys! Any sensible help is very much appreciated!

As Grendel says there is a shuttle bus from New St. Last time I was there there was people with big placard signs telling you where to get it from.
Walk from the station is about 30mins but it's easy to do. Straight down Bristol St (A38) then turn left at Priory Rd.

 

[chiefdave]

It is hard to understand the first time you tell anyone. The fact that you can play for 7 hours a day and for 5 days and yet STILL no-one wins.

It is mental.

Would highly recommend Rob Eastaways book What is a Googly for anyone that wants a beginners guide. Its a pretty quick, humorous read that covers most of what you need to know. Seems to be out of print but they have it here:
What is a Googly? | Sporting Gifts

 

[chiefdave]

Atmosphere at Edgbaston is mental. Stuart Broad trying his hardest not to laugh at some of the stuff the Hollies stand are coming out with.

 

[chiefdave]

I'm struggling to believe Warner didn't know he'd edged that. Took a massive deflection.

 

[chiefdave]

Umpiring in this game has been shocking.

We are now up to seven overturned decisions in this match which equals the record in an England match. 11 is the overall record.

 

[shepardo01]

As Grendel says there is a shuttle bus from New St. Last time I was there there was people with big placard signs telling you where to get it from.
Walk from the station is about 30mins but it's easy to do. Straight down Bristol St (A38) then turn left at Priory Rd.

Cheers SBD. More useful info...!
Two trips to Birmingham in two days!... what have I done!!??
Thanks again for info.

 

[Otis]

The key now has to be get Smith out hasn't it?

He stays in for another big innings and I think we may well be in big trouble, judging by Lyons' bowling in that first innings.

 

[lifeskyblue]

Agreed. Need to get Smith quickly and also a couple more by lunch.


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[Paul Anthony]

Smith is absolutely the key. Could be a frustrating day coming up.

 

[Otis]

If we don't get another couple of wickets soon out best hope might be the predicted rain.

Anything around 200 to chase is going to be tough I think.

 

[Paul Anthony]

Bowling looks to have gone to pot. We've got nothing to trouble Smith. We're really missing Anderson. Can see Australia leaving us an insurmountable total, and Nathan Lyons ripping us to pieces in our second innings.

 

[Grendel]

Bowling looks to have gone to pot. We've got nothing to trouble Smith. We're really missing Anderson. Can see Australia leaving us an insurmountable total, and Nathan Lyons ripping us to pieces in our second innings.

We’ve gambled in playing only 3 front line bowlers - I’m not able to watch this morning - why has Woakes only bowled 6 overs in the innings?