Vodafone & Hummel (8 Viewers)

[Kilclines curly mullet]

I appreciate it’s silly season with all of the rumours however have seen online and various rumours that Vodafone were lined up for the Ricoh naming rights, but have pulled out as they want CCFC as part of the deal.
In addition, was told that Hummel are not best pleased either with the move to Birmingham. The kit deal was a green way before the move to Birmingham was agreed and as part of the ongoing talks to stay at the Ricoh, the club shop was going to be bought back to the ground.
Now with the move to Birmingham, passing trade on match days isn’t going to happen, unless you count a small stall that was at St Andrews yesterday with merchandise.

Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, I haven’t had time to scroll through the forum today.

 

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[SeaSeeEffCee]

I reckon we'll be back at the Ricoh before the end of the season

 

[ccfcway]

Can’t be too hard to carry a decent stock of replica kits to our Birmingham games ?

 

[chiefdave]

In addition, was told that Hummel are not best pleased either with the move to Birmingham.

We've sold 4 times as many kits as last season, can't see them being too unhappy.

 

[Nick]

They can't physically sell any more than they have

 

[GaryJones]

I reckon we'll be back at the Ricoh before the end of the season

Would like to believe this but I reckon we will be in Birmingham all season.

 

[shmmeee]

Would like to believe this but I reckon we will be in Birmingham all season.

Our best bet is that the EU throw the case out in a few months time. And that’s grasping at straws. But at least maybe it’ll be a natural moment for Wasps to change their mind and someone to come up with a compromise.

 

[GaryJones]

Had this idea yesterday that we consider getting into bed with Leamington FC - they are about to start a 5,000 capacity stadium and I think that could be expanded at this stage before work begins up to 10,000-15,000.
I know the EFL say it has to be within an inch of the Coventry boundary (that’s 25mm in new money) but I think they would ease that rule - would sure beat grovelling to Wasps and Coventry Cunty Council!

 

[CJ_covblaze]

I've heard both of these things said in the last couple of weeks. The Hummel one I'm a bit dubious on but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Vodafone one is true. I get the impression they're more than happy with the shirt sponsorship which was a pretty big deal in comparison to most others around in the Premiership. It could've been so much bigger though with the naming rights too.

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

They can't physically sell any more than they have

Agreed, but they can sell more training wear etc.
Take away the shirt issue shirt issue which is short term, which would you prefer, a stocked shop with 10-15k supporters being on your doorstep each week or 4-5k people with a burger van type stall.
I’m not saying if this is true or not but the pure maths make me think there is probably something in it.

 

[tskezz]

Our best bet is that the EU throw the case out in a few months time. And that’s grasping at straws. But at least maybe it’ll be a natural moment for Wasps to change their mind and someone to come up with a compromise.

Surly BCFC have something in place with us to say we must see out the season there? We couldn't just up sticks and go when we please

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

Surly BFC have something in place with us to say we must see out the season there? We couldn't just up sticks and go when we please

There will be a get out clause, if required.

 

[Garryb80]

Surly BFC have something in place with us to say we must see out the season there? We couldn't just up sticks and go when we please

Sure boddy said we had a release clause if needed

 

[GaryJones]

I think we have a release clause so if in the unlikely event we are offered a way back to Ricoh they would release us.
Fair enough although I can’t see us moving back anytime soon!

 

[Hobo]

Can’t be too hard to carry a decent stock of replica kits to our Birmingham games ?

Its not the same as having an outlet in Coventry and possibly breaches the original terms of contract. So yes if true I can see it being an issue. Either in the future with a Hummel renewal all they will penalise us on revenue from shirts due to potential lost sales.

 

[tskezz]

Suppose there will be a clause.

Some of the hummle training stuff is boss aswell could easily see people buying it out of the blue going past a club shop so possibly see Hummels frustration

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

I live 100 miles away, whilst playing at the Ricoh I’d visit the club shop before the games.
A) because I am a full kit walker b) because I need to try things on before buying which rules out a lot of buying online and c) there was always stuff available in store that wasn’t on online.
Anyway... with the move to Birmingham, I won’t be setting foot in the club shop for a long time so the ad hoc £10/£30/£50 won’t be spent.

 

[ccfcway]

Its not the same as having an outlet in Coventry and possibly breaches the original terms of contract. So yes if true I can see it being an issue. Either in the future with a Hummel renewal all they will penalise us on revenue from shirts due to potential lost sales.

We have an outlet in Coventry as well as the opportunity to sell in Birmingham. According to the club we have sold boat loads of this new kit. Surely their expectations would be “how many did you sell last year - whats were case if you move out of Coventry”. We have surpassed what we sold last year, they must be delighted

 

[ccfcway]

I live 100 miles away, whilst playing at the Ricoh I’d visit the club shop before the games.
A) because I am a full kit walker b) because I need to try things on before buying which rules out a lot of buying online and c) there was always stuff available in store that wasn’t on online.
Anyway... with the move to Birmingham, I won’t be setting foot in the club shop for a long time so the ad hoc £10/£30/£50 won’t be spent.

Great post. Yesterday I spent at least £30 in around around digbeth and then £15 in the ground. All money I would have spent in casino / Ricoh..

 

[Hobo]

We have an outlet in Coventry as well as the opportunity to sell in Birmingham. According to the club we have sold boat loads of this new kit. Surely their expectations would be “how many did you sell last year - whats were case if you move out of Coventry”. We have surpassed what we sold last year, they must be delighted

You may be right who knows? But they may still have a case for potential lost sales despite sales being up on last year.

 

[chiefdave]

Its not the same as having an outlet in Coventry and possibly breaches the original terms of contract. So yes if true I can see it being an issue. Either in the future with a Hummel renewal all they will penalise us on revenue from shirts due to potential lost sales.

We confirmed we'd be playing at St Andrews a month before the contract with Hummel started. If they weren't happy with it they wouldn't have gone ahead.

 

[Hobo]

We confirmed we'd be playing at St Andrews a month before the contract with Hummel started. If they weren't happy with it they wouldn't have gone ahead.

Fair enough I didnt realise that.

 

[ccfcway]

You may be right who knows? But they may still have a case for potential lost sales despite sales being up on last year.

Lost sales despite being up ?

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

We have an outlet in Coventry as well as the opportunity to sell in Birmingham. According to the club we have sold boat loads of this new kit. Surely their expectations would be “how many did you sell last year - whats were case if you move out of Coventry”. We have surpassed what we sold last year, they must be delighted

From what I have heard, and again only hearsay is that the club were pretty certain of staying at the Ricoh, and confident that the club shop would return to the ground also.
It’s not all about shirts.
How many training tops, scarfs, hats, key rings etc are now not going to be sold.
My points are based on the people who go to shops with no real purpose and leave £100 lighter, not those who if they want something, will always find a way to get it.

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

We confirmed we'd be playing at St Andrews a month before the contract with Hummel started. If they weren't happy with it they wouldn't have gone ahead.

You don’t just “start a contract”.
Hummel were in talks long before the end of last season.

 

[chiefdave]

From what I have heard, and again only hearsay is that the club were pretty certain of staying at the Ricoh, and confident that the club shop would return to the ground also.

Where was this shop at the Ricoh going to be located?

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

Where was this shop at the Ricoh going to be located?

That I don’t know, I assume a share with Wasps ?
But genuinely don’t know.

 

[ccfcway]

How many key rings etc are now not going to be sold.

Good point, the welsh will be livid

On a serious note, the shop return to the Ricoh ?, where ?

 

[chiefdave]

You don’t just “start a contract”.
Hummel were in talks long before the end of last season.

Correct - there were have been work done before the contract kicked in. But as I said the contract didn't start until July so if they genuinely weren't happy they could have pulled out.

 

[ccfcway]

I can’t for the life of me think Hummel or any other sponsor would enter into a contract with CCFC without their eyes being open and thinking that we are a complete mess of a club ?

 

[Hobo]

We confirmed we'd be playing at St Andrews a month before the contract with Hummel started. If they weren't happy with it they wouldn't have gone ahead.

In fairness announcements and contracts start dates are not necessarily the same as when contracts are signed and agreed. So neither of us have a clue really. Also Hummel is a 5 year contract so I cant see it being a major issue. Any revenue to Coventry will be based on Hummel targets anyway, the more we sell the more we get, unless City took a one off payment.

 

[ccfcway]

In fairness announcements and contracts start dates are not necessarily the same as when contracts are signed and agreed. So neither of us have a clue really. Also Hummel is a 5 year contract so I cant see it being a major issue. Any revenue to Coventry will be based on Hummel targets anyway, the more we sell the more we get, unless City took a one off payment.

It could work in their favour as for the next 5 years + they could have a bigger target market

 

[Tommo1993]

Wouldn’t take it as gospel, but I do think there is some truth in it. Certainly makes for an interesting read.

 

[ccfcway]

My points are based on the people who go to shops with no real purpose and leave £100 lighter, not those who if they want something, will always find a way to get it.

We have some proper rich fans. Spending £100 in the club shop, average of £75 in the casino.

It might be worth them trying to get together and buying the club

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Don’t believe the Hummel talk. We have one of the best kits in the world and our fans have gone mad for it. They are making money and so is the club.

As for Wasps and Vodafone I can believe it. Getting a major sponsorship deal for the stadium means you want your company name in all circles and big audiences. Fact is rugby isn’t attractive for a stadium sponsor. A football club is. 20+ games at home it already beats Wasps. Also the casino and catering companies will not like the fact they are now missing 20+ days worth of income streams now we’ve buggered off to Brum. Don’t be mistaken, this is hitting the Ricoh owners and various interested parties in the pocket.