General Election 2019 thread (7 Viewers)

Ian1779

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You have to wonder how much better Labour would be doing if they had someone more acceptable at the helm.

So many people just do not care for him at all.

Make no mistake - unless Labour churn out Blair 2.0 then the next leader will get the same treatment.
If they do get Blair 2.0 then they will be decimated as a party.
 

Grendel

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Make no mistake - unless Labour churn out Blair 2.0 then the next leader will get the same treatment.
If they do get Blair 2.0 then they will be decimated as a party.
I guess you were a Michael Foot fan back in the day? Why not accept most people see sensible and want prosperity for the hard working and not hand outs to the losers in society?
 

Ian1779

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I guess you were a Michael Foot fan back in the day? Why not accept most people see sensible and want prosperity for the hard working and not hand outs to the losers in society?

So by losers you mean underprivileged, disabled etc...
 

Grendel

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So by losers you mean underprivileged, disabled etc...

No I mean the underclass - benefits should never be a lifestyle choice do you agree?
 

skybluetony176

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I guess you were a Michael Foot fan back in the day? Why not accept most people see sensible and want prosperity for the hard working and not hand outs to the losers in society?
Hard working single mothers are losers? Interesting. Moronic but interesting.
 

Grendel

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You only have an underclass because the capitalists just will never accept the word ‘enough’

Maybe we should look at the ‘benefits’ at both ends of the scale.... don’t you agree?

Well I think if you achieve and work hard you enjoy rewards - I’m sure we all agree on that
 

Ian1779

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Well I think if you achieve and work hard you enjoy rewards - I’m sure we all agree on that

I have no problem with that... but I want to see everyone given the same opportunities to work hard and achieve...

As I am sure you’ll agree.
 

Grendel

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And you have the nerve to lecture anyone on snobbery

Mr Corbyn I believe has a million pound property? The great socialist Mr McCloskey earns £400,000 a year.

I doubt these true socialists will ever have too much to worry about do you?
 

Grendel

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I have no problem with that... but I want to see everyone given the same opportunities to work hard and achieve...

As I am sure you’ll agree.

Everyone pretty much does
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Mr Corbyn I believe has a million pound property? The great socialist Mr McCloskey earns £400,000 a year.

I doubt these true socialists will ever have too much to worry about do you?

Completely deflecting from the point. Goes well in the collection alongside not caring about the breakup of the country
 

Grendel

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Completely deflecting from the point. Goes well in the collection alongside not caring about the breakup of the country

well Corbyn and me agree on that as he certainly doesn’t care
 

skybluetony176

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You only have an underclass because the capitalists just will never accept the word ‘enough’

Maybe we should look at the ‘benefits’ at both ends of the scale.... don’t you agree?
Exactly. Being wealthy enough to join tax avoidance schemes is a cost to the public purse. And therefore a benefit.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Well I think if you achieve and work hard you enjoy rewards - I’m sure we all agree on that

I think we can all agree that if you achieve and work hard you SHOULD enjoy rewards.

I think we can also agree that if you achieve and work hard it DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET rewards.
 

CCFCSteve

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Not sure the MCB are representative of most Muslims. I think successive governments haven’t dealt with them due to historical links to extremists. I have to admit, I’m not sure where the relationship is currently other than looking at their twitter feed, very anti Tory (some of it possibly justifiable, some of it not)

From what I’ve read/heard the Jewish community as a whole was historically very much supporters of labour and this is a recent change of stance (I stand to be correct but think that’s the case)
 

Ian1779

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Not sure the MCB are representative of most Muslims. I think successive governments haven’t dealt with them due to historical links to extremists. I have to admit, I’m not sure where the relationship is currently other than looking at their twitter feed, very anti Tory (some of it possibly justifiable, some of it not)

From what I’ve read/heard the Jewish community as a whole was historically very much supporters of labour and this is a recent change of stance (I stand to be correct but think that’s the case)

There are several high profile groups that represent the Jewish community. The fact that some of those are in direct conflict about this comment suggests that it is complicated - I would suggest this reflects the division on the Israel/Palestine conflict.
 

Grendel

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Bitches on and on about British sovereignty
Would sell the Union down the river if it got him Brexit

Corbyn has his strings pulled by Sturgeon - she said that at the last debate - he just wants the top job and doesn’t give a fuck about principals - don’t be so naive
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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Isn’t China the world’s biggest economy with the second largest number of millionaires per capita?
Ahh yes the democratic country called China,Do a good takeaway mind They do care for their citizens if they have a different point of view though.
Biggest climate change polluters along with India too!!
 

CCFCSteve

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There are several high profile groups that represent the Jewish community. The fact that some of those are in direct conflict about this comment suggests that it is complicated - I would suggest this reflects the division on the Israel/Palestine conflict.

think that’s right Ian
 

Walsgrave

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Corbyn has his strings pulled by Sturgeon - she said that at the last debate - he just wants the top job and doesn’t give a fuck about principals - don’t be so naive
By that logic, Mr Johnson does not either - as David Cameron seems to think.
 

tommydazzle

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Like or loath her I find Nicola Sturgeon the most accomplished politician of all the leaders. Corbyn had a terrible interview tonight imo. He seemed rattled and his calmness entirely strained and overacted. I'm looking forward to the buffoon Johnson being grilled but Andrew Neil needs to pin him down and prevent the usual waffle and sound bites. Depressing stuff really.
 
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Corbyn must have done alright because the random whatabout smearing's ramping up...
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Corbyn has his strings pulled by Sturgeon - she said that at the last debate - he just wants the top job and doesn’t give a fuck about principals - don’t be so naive

You taking her words at face value when her agenda is there for all to see is the bigger display of ignorance. At least we can dispel the idea that the hard Brexiteers give a damn about the British interest
 

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