Coronavirus (32 Viewers)

[wingy]

The top letter is relevant to my thinking regards family members with the conditions mentioned which makes them vulnerable.

‘We’re concerned but calm’: five voices from the frontline against Covid-19

 

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[Marty]

Why are people panic buying toilet roll? If the worst comes and we completely run dry in the country, just wash your bum instead?

 

[David O'Day]

I can sit quietly and be annoyed with the brexit boys spouting “scaremongering” whilst ignoring the experts. Because it’s more than likely not going to affect me. But I’m not having the same cunts who know no more than I do about this flu bollocks actively make a point of ignoring the experts again in something which still probably won’t affect me directly but could kill my 90 year old grandfather. You cynical fucking ballsacks. The amount of false equivalencies I’ve heard is a fucking embarrassment.

But most experts don't agree with him. Listen to experts yes but you need to make sure the expert is correct and not an outlier. Most experts disagree with him so are they not to be listened to?

 

[Deleted member 4439]

LIVE: First coronavirus COVID-19 case confirmed in Coventry

 

[shmmeee]

Why are people panic buying toilet roll? If the worst comes and we completely run dry in the country, just wash your bum instead?

I can only think because we’ve been told people are panic buying toilet roll. So people panic. Same for the hand wash really. Washing your hands doesn’t help if you’ve stopped everyone else doing it.

People are stupid and selfish.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I can only think because we’ve been told people are panic buying toilet roll. So people panic. Same for the hand wash really. Washing your hands doesn’t help if you’ve stopped everyone else doing it.

People are stupid and selfish.

They are but the real cause of this is the media. Too much news because there's too much time for it so they fill it with the same scaremongering nonsense.
200 diagnosed....next 500 , 1000, 4000, 18000. Then they'll go back to Brexit because the public need something else to worry about.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

I can sit quietly and be annoyed with the brexit boys spouting “scaremongering” whilst ignoring the experts. Because it’s more than likely not going to affect me. But I’m not having the same cunts who know no more than I do about this flu bollocks actively make a point of ignoring the experts again in something which still probably won’t affect me directly but could kill my 90 year old grandfather. You cynical fucking ballsacks. The amount of false equivalencies I’ve heard is a fucking embarrassment.

You are of course right to be concerned and to take preactions in the case of your grandfather, and should always be concerned that families and carers with flu at kept at bay: the fatality rate of pneumonia is 5-10% and comorbid with seasonal flu including swine fever.

But I have seen no false equivalences here. I think the truth is nobody quite knows the extent of the issue but, at this time, nearly all sources put covid as having a slightly higher comorbidity rate than seasonal flu in the aged.

 

[Otis]

I can only think because we’ve been told people are panic buying toilet roll. So people panic. Same for the hand wash really. Washing your hands doesn’t help if you’ve stopped everyone else doing it.

People are stupid and selfish.

Saw a guy in Tesco today (it was crazy in there, but my dad said he wanted some shopping) and he had 36 big bottles of water in his trolley.

 

[Otis]

You are of course right to be concerned and to take preactions in the case of your grandfather, and should always be concerned that families and carers with flu at kept at bay: the fatality rate of pneumonia is 5-10% and comorbid with seasonal flu including swine fever.

But I have seen no false equivalences here. I think the truth is nobody quite knows the extent of the issue but, at this time, nearly all sources put covid as having a slightly higher comorbidity rate than seasonal flu in the aged.

What was said today that it is a lot more deadly than the flu and there is no vaccine.

It's way OTT the way it is portrayed, but it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand as something trivial.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Sorry, what was said today, by whom and where?

 

[Ian1779]

They are but the real cause of this is the media. Too much news because there's too much time for it so they fill it with the same scaremongering nonsense.
200 diagnosed....next 500 , 1000, 4000, 18000. Then they'll go back to Brexit because the public need something else to worry about.

Assuming it does become much larger scale - it will be almost a month until the numbers get huge. And we’ve already hit apocalyptic panic.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Over 100000 cases and 3500 deaths, the numbers don't back up that bolocks and neither do other virologists but it makes good tv

The number of deaths is massive in proportion to the number of cases

 

[fernandopartridge]

I can sit quietly and be annoyed with the brexit boys spouting “scaremongering” whilst ignoring the experts. Because it’s more than likely not going to affect me. But I’m not having the same cunts who know no more than I do about this flu bollocks actively make a point of ignoring the experts again in something which still probably won’t affect me directly but could kill my 90 year old grandfather. You cynical fucking ballsacks. The amount of false equivalencies I’ve heard is a fucking embarrassment.

I know, I've got relatively elderly parents and have just lost my sister to a short term respiratory illness that seems similar to what happens with Coronavirus. Find the blasé stuff on here a bit cringey.

 

[Otis]

Sorry, what was said today, by whom and where?

On 5 Live. Not sure where she was from. Not the WHO, but another official body.

 

[clint van damme]

I know, I've got relatively elderly parents and have just lost my sister to a short term respiratory illness that seems similar to what happens with Coronavirus. Find the blasé stuff on here a bit cringey.

some worrying figures coming out of Italy in terms of number of deaths and demographic of the deceased.
My son is asthmatic so I've told him to be careful but he's a teenager so indestructible in his own mind.

 

[fernandopartridge]

some worrying figures coming out of Italy in terms of number of deaths and demographic of the deceased.
My son is asthmatic so I've told him to be careful but he's a teenager so indestructible in his own mind.

The other worry is the glaring lack of capacity in critical care, UHCW was full a few weeks ago, and flu season hadn't fully kicked off nor had this

 

[Tommo1993]

Feel quite weird to say I’m intrigued to see how far this goes. Almost as if it’s merely a soap opera. I must be sick.

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

If your not worried about this then you will likely fall victim to it , then bleat. I have 80 old parents in Coventry , if required I will come and get them with their dog , I am very worried for them , both worked all their lives it’s not a nice thing to think about and I suspect many here feeling the same

 

[Deleted member 4439]

some worrying figures coming out of Italy in terms of number of deaths and demographic of the deceased.
My son is asthmatic so I've told him to be careful but he's a teenager so indestructible in his own mind.

I can see that some on here are quite sensitive to current events, so not meaning to intentionally downplay this, but the problem with headline figures is that there's no break down of co-morbidity nor death rates for other viruses. Italian death rates from flu have been around an average of 1-1.5K per mth over recent years.

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons) - ScienceDirect

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

I can see that some on here are quite sensitive to current events, so not meaning to intentionally downplay this, but the problem with headline figures is that there's no break down of co-morbidity nor death rates for other viruses. Italian death rates from flu have been around an average of 1.5K per mth over recent years.

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons) - ScienceDirect

I get all that but surely that flu stat only makes it worse in my eyes as it’s increased the risk this CONVID -19 of someone dying

 

[Deleted member 4439]

If your not worried about this then you will likely fall victim to it , then bleat. I have 80 old parents in Coventry , if required I will come and get them with their dog , I am very worried for them , both worked all their lives it’s not a nice thing to think about and I suspect many here feeling the same

As I have said, if I were in that situation I'd feel the same. My father died from Idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis six years ago (never smoked in his life), and my Mother had been in and out of the hospital with pneumonia 4 times over the years before she died (in circumstances that I'd wish no-one would have to witness) from heart failure on her 89th birthday last Summer. I do understand, but it shouldn't be a challenge to reasoned discussion.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

I get all that but surely that flu stat only makes it worse in my eyes as it’s increased the risk this CONVID -19 of someone dying

No I agree, but I'm simply trying to introduce some perspective - from what we know at this time

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

I remember when I was in the military and we did an excerise in Oman there were 20000 British personnel , I went to briefing that said at the start statistically 5 people will die due the numbers , guess what 5 people died in accidents

 

[Halftime Orange]

Around 100,000 infected and around 3,500 dead on the entire planet
The global population is just over 7,600,000,000 (billion) and rising every second
The media are raking in ad revenue via clickbait headlines and are making a killing (no pun intended)
Stay calm, it's going to be fine.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I think there is a balance between scepticism and panic.

You can realise it isn't the end of the world that some people think but also recognise that some people are vulnerable and we should be doing our best to protect them.

Wash your hands more than normal, carry hand gel if you can and self isolate if you have to but don't read the papers and don't panic buy.

 

[Sick Boy]

I know, I've got relatively elderly parents and have just lost my sister to a short term respiratory illness that seems similar to what happens with Coronavirus. Find the blasé stuff on here a bit cringey.

So sorry to hear that mate.

 

[Sick Boy]

I think there is a balance between scepticism and panic.

You can realise it isn't the end of the world that some people think but also recognise that some people are vulnerable and we should be doing our best to protect them.

Wash your hands more than normal, carry hand gel if you can and self isolate if you have to but don't read the papers and don't panic buy.

Got the ‘zone rosse’ to the east and west but no panic buying going on here. We do have 13kg of pasta but that’s pretty normal haha

 

[David O'Day]

The number of deaths is massive in proportion to the number of cases

It's really not though. In the 2009 pandemic 500k plus died.

 

[David O'Day]

I think there is a balance between scepticism and panic.

You can realise it isn't the end of the world that some people think but also recognise that some people are vulnerable and we should be doing our best to protect them.

Wash your hands more than normal, carry hand gel if you can and self isolate if you have to but don't read the papers and don't panic buy.

Exactly

 

[Tommo1993]

Got the ‘zone rosse’ to the east and west but no panic buying going on here. We do have 13kg of pasta but that’s pretty normal haha

Pasta fasul?

 

[Otis]

I think there is a balance between scepticism and panic.

You can realise it isn't the end of the world that some people think but also recognise that some people are vulnerable and we should be doing our best to protect them.

Wash your hands more than normal, carry hand gel if you can and self isolate if you have to but don't read the papers and don't panic buy.

Tesco at the Arena was barmy nuts today. I really didn't wish to go, but my dad insisted he needed stuff.

Not seen such long queues at the tills.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It's really not though. In the 2009 pandemic 500k plus died.

What was the total number of diagnosed infections?

 

[David O'Day]

What was the total number of diagnosed infections?

That's not the point, the mortality rate is dropping is likely to be 1% when it's all said and done.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

What was the total number of diagnosed infections?

Mean estimate 61 m so 0.8% mortality. That pandemic disproportionately affected the young, as it had developed from a common strain to which older people had some immunity. So, roughly 1% of the world's population caught the disease, of which 1% died as either a direct or co-morbid result of the virus.

 

[fellatio_Martinez]

I'm still seeing cunts walking around coughing without covering their mouths.

Just imagine the decrease in things like the cold and flu if people even washed their hands regularly.