Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (174 Viewers)

Wyken Sky Blue

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Once the pandemic is over, hopefully as human beings across the world we can learn massively about appreciating life better and pulling together more.

It's about time society changed for the better and this may be what causes it to happen.

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shmmeee

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Branson is a figurehead and has been for a longtime. He is credited for much of what is not his and is criticized for much that is not his. He is the face of Virgin but is, and I repeat this for all, not CEO of virgin airlines and is not the owner, it is therefore not Branson.
It is 400 companies under the virgin banner founded by Branson and he is seen as a benevolent uncle wheeled out at appropriate times. He would have had no part in anything to do with Virgin Airlines decision making.

He’s still a c**t.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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Once the pandemic is over, hopefully as human beings across the world we can learn massively about appreciating life better and pulling together more.

It's about time society changed for the better and this may be what causes it to happen.

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Blue sky thinking but I hope you are right. Oh and we get promoted and get our own ground.
 

CCFCSteve

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If i felt like she describes there's no way I'd be bothering to try and work from home, get some rest lass!

I was thinking that, fair play, dedication. It sounds brutal though (I hope you’re feeling at least a little better or do so soon Hills ?)

It also sprang to mind that I had very similar symptoms to what she had on the 17th on a Saturday night out a couple of weeks ago....

‘17th: felt better. Walked faster. Extremely THIRSTY. Temp at 36. dizzy. Had more appetite. Had hallucinations. Temporary loss of recent memory. Couldn’t speak much. Vomited. Fatigued.’


Ps Sorry, I know it’s not a joking matter, I just couldn’t resist after what feels like another tough day. Hopefully no offence caused
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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Is Coronavirus actually worse than normal seasonal flu and if it is, why?

The people that have died in the UK, would they have died if exposed to 'normal' flu?

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Liquid Gold

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I am not going to bite but I never understand how people can hold such opinions about people they have no real knowledge of apart from paper or tv.
How about the tens of thousands of jobs created?
But I am sure you are right....
Or the tens of thousands of people he's going to chuck onto the scrapheap while raking it in from the government.

I wish we had a left wing government that would let them all go bust and then pick it up as free nationalisation.
 

MalcSB

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Sweating like mad, dry cough, sore throat, extreme headache and stinging eyes (need to keep them closed).

Then, hour later, pretty much ok other than a cough. Piss about on my phone and watch tv. Then feel rough as fuck again. It comes in waves.

No loss of appetite. Bare in mind I don’t know if I’ve got ‘it’ though.

Weird
Sounds very likely, else you are very unlucky and still have the real thing to look forward to.
 

fernandopartridge

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I always make an effort of having a chat and thanking them on the tills (used to work on the provisions/deli at Asda as a kid) and made a special point of saying it’s really appreciated to the lady serving me yesterday.....as I wedged my 24th pack of bogroll back into the trolley
(Last bits a joke, no shitroll left yesterday !)
Yes, I hate job snobbery and hate the way people have been made commodities in that way. I think the term 'Human Resources' is vile.
 

fernandopartridge

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Sweating like mad, dry cough, sore throat, extreme headache and stinging eyes (need to keep them closed).

Then, hour later, pretty much ok other than a cough. Piss about on my phone and watch tv. Then feel rough as fuck again. It comes in waves.

No loss of appetite. Bare in mind I don’t know if I’ve got ‘it’ though.

Weird
All the best to you.
 

Nick

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Sweating like mad, dry cough, sore throat, extreme headache and stinging eyes (need to keep them closed).

Then, hour later, pretty much ok other than a cough. Piss about on my phone and watch tv. Then feel rough as fuck again. It comes in waves.

No loss of appetite. Bare in mind I don’t know if I’ve got ‘it’ though.

Weird
Is the rest of your family ok? Hopefully it won't bother your son too much!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Just a few random thoughts on long term effects.

I do think this thing will have some effect on the social and economic fabric of the world. Unfortunately a lot of the stimulus from central banks and government will be QE type stuff and trickle up hill. Like after the global financial crisis you'll be able to look at the proportion of the worlds wealth owned by the top 0.1-1% and it will have risen significantly.

More jobs will have WFH options and this will be encouraged to help with resilience for future disasters. Decentralisation (in terms of supply chains, workers etc) will increase generally and savvy businesses will lean into it. Maybe globalisation will drop in the physical sense but increase in a digital sense. The curve will be bent for global CO2 emissions and there will be calls to keep some consumption at reduced levels to help with that but there will obviously also be an urge to get the economy flying again.

Politically I'm not sure how things will go, will we all pull together or be pushed further apart? Will leaders like Trump be seen as strong or populist idiots? I guess most likely people will be pushed further to their partisan opinions.

I agree this does feel like one of those things that will alter the life we lead after the event, like post 9/11.

I certainly think we'll see more WFH as it's been shown to be feasible in certain sectors. However one thing that will take a lot of time to see the effect of is on mental health due to isolation and productivity.

I'd love it to be a move towards greater value of those lower down the pecking order but as I said above it's never really happened before. With things like the plague/WWi etc you got a bit of improvement in wages/rights etc but only small fry in relation to those in charge and this isn't the same as those affected the most are not a major part of the workforce and are predominantly retired.

One thing I'd also love to see, but won't expect to, is a change from the massive overweighting of economic growth as a measure of 'success' and instead move to a more balanced 'improvement' taking into account health (both physical and mental), education, environmental and societal factors like crime, homelessness and access to utilities/services as well as economic factors like growth and unemployment as well as far more emphasis put on economic disparities.

But that's why I'm Dreamer.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Sweating like mad, dry cough, sore throat, extreme headache and stinging eyes (need to keep them closed).

Then, hour later, pretty much ok other than a cough. Piss about on my phone and watch tv. Then feel rough as fuck again. It comes in waves.

No loss of appetite. Bare in mind I don’t know if I’ve got ‘it’ though.

Weird

Hope it eases off soon. Allthe best.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Just checked for interest for how many people die in Italy each year for context.

10566 people died last year so an average of 30 a day

Bloody hell
 
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shmmeee

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Is Coronavirus actually worse than normal seasonal flu and if it is, why?

The people that have died in the UK, would they have died if exposed to 'normal' flu?

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Four reasons:

1) We don’t have a vaccine for it, so can’t stop vulnerable people getting it.
2) It’s more contagious than flu. Flu has an R0 of 1.3, meaning each person on average passes it to 1.3 people. Coronavirus is somewhere between 2 and 3
3) It’s more deadly than flu. Somewhere between 4 and 60 times as deadly. Flu has a mortality rate of 0.1% compared to coronavirus of somewhere between 0.4 and 6%. In the over 80s it’s 14%.
4) It’s hospitalises more people. Flu hospitalisation rate is 1-2%, coronavirus is 15%ish. This overwhelms healthcare systems and causes other deaths that wouldn’t have happened otherwise. Also means hospitalised patients from the virus don’t get the best care which raises the mortality rate.

If left unchecked the virus would kill half a million people, even with all these measures we are talking about 20,000 as a “good” number. For context that’s 6 2/3 9/11s, just in the U.K. scaled up for every country with an epidemic.
 

itsabuzzard

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Have any of the teachers in here heard anything about being closed until September?
Im not a teacher but have been working in a school north of the border. Feeling is that they wont be back until the start of the autumn term in august.

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djr8369

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Four reasons:

1) We don’t have a vaccine for it, so can’t stop vulnerable people getting it.
2) It’s more contagious than flu. Flu has an R0 of 1.3, meaning each person on average passes it to 1.3 people. Coronavirus is somewhere between 2 and 3
3) It’s more deadly than flu. Somewhere between 4 and 60 times as deadly. Flu has a mortality rate of 0.1% compared to coronavirus of somewhere between 0.4 and 6%. In the over 80s it’s 14%.
4) It’s hospitalises more people. Flu hospitalisation rate is 1-2%, coronavirus is 15%ish. This overwhelms healthcare systems and causes other deaths that wouldn’t have happened otherwise. Also means hospitalised patients from the virus don’t get the best care which raises the mortality rate.

If left unchecked the virus would kill half a million people, even with all these measures we are talking about 20,000 as a “good” number. For context that’s 6 2/3 9/11s, just in the U.K. scaled up for every country with an epidemic.

The people saying "It's all a fuss over nothing, it's no different to normal flu" are going quieter by the day.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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According to the CET, L1 and L2 clubs may struggle as they do not have wealthy belly factors. Proof reader job going at the CET?
 

Johnnythespider

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Ths poor women and men on the tills at supermarkets as well, getting a constant flow of people in close proximity not knowing whether theyve got corona or not (and getting paid pretty much minimal wage). Fair play to them
The point is they don't have much choice do they, that's the "benefit" of minimal wages
 

Skybluefaz

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According to the CET, L1 and L2 clubs may struggle as they do not have wealthy belly factors. Proof reader job going at the CET?
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covmark

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Sweating like mad, dry cough, sore throat, extreme headache and stinging eyes (need to keep them closed).

Then, hour later, pretty much ok other than a cough. Piss about on my phone and watch tv. Then feel rough as fuck again. It comes in waves.

No loss of appetite. Bare in mind I don’t know if I’ve got ‘it’ though.

Weird
Sounds like you have a dose of the 'rona. Get well soon mate.

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Johnnythespider

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My mrs works in a school, lot's of non committal chatter about September amongst heads, seems like they've had a heads up
I should add that Swansea uni, where my son is doing his masters, closed yesterday and will not reopen until at least august, could indicate similar for schools, don't know what it means for his degree as some of it is assessment based in person.
 

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