Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (156 Viewers)

[Nick]

to be fair it would be mad to set a course now and not look at changing it as the situation develops.

It was that he said monthly rather than weekly...

 

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[clint van damme]

These truly are scary/extraordinary times

The job retention scheme appears sensible by the sounds of it. Better than job losses and paying redundancy/notice/job seekers (then lag to economy of reemployment). I just hope people don’t take the piss this as this going to cost us all for a long time to come (but right under the circumstances)

not heard much to disagree with. I'm sure once someone clever gets into the detail of the financial packages they'll be a few gripes but I think it all sounds fairly reasonable. Closing the pubs and restaurants had to happen in my opinion.

 

[ccfc92]

Oh no! He’s shut the gym! Just as I was about to start going. Dammit.

This is exactly why I never got a membership in the first place...

 

[djr8369]

Tories stay in power on the back of getting Brexit done and implement mass socialism. Is anyone else concerned for Grendels mental health?


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[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Going to pay 80% of people's wages.

Only if they keep you on instead of making you redundant

 

[djr8369]

Worries me when he says "We will review the situation each month"...

That’s the reality of the situation was but shocking to hear it put so starkly.


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[Nick]

Enforcing it by licensing.

 

[djr8369]

I’m old enough to remember when we couldn’t afford 1% of GDP for access to the worlds largest free trade area.


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[fernandopartridge]

Still nothing for anybody actually put out of work but I suppose the incentive is there for employers to retain staff.

 

[Nick]

"Mothers day, are you going to encourage people to not see their mothers and will you see yours"

As a question to Johnson.

If only he had said "No but I will see yours"

 

[David O'Day]

If they pay people 80 percent of their wages as long as the company doesn't make you redundant people will still have a lot less money and are unlikely to spend it once we are through this. This means the demand side of the economy is still depressed.

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[fernandopartridge]

Whoever knew a country could afford all this

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Update 80 percent of wages for people not working.

 

[David O'Day]

Still nothing for anybody actually put out of work but I suppose the incentive is there for employers to retain staff.

Still needs something like a universal income to kick start demand

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[SkyBlueDom26]

Let’s give boris and the government some credit now, there really going to help everybody out..... credit where it’s due

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Whoever knew a country could afford all this

Still less than the cost of keeping the banks going

 

[fernandopartridge]

If they pay people 80 percent of their wages as long as the company doesn't make you redundant people will still have a lot less money and are unlikely to spend it once we are through this. This means the demand side of the economy is still depressed.

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It's a bung to employers. Hope the terms are tight enough that they return to full pay ASAP and are retained in the job for a reasonable period afterwards. It's better but like you say supply side as usual.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Puts the constant worry of possibly being laid off to bed

 

[David O'Day]

They can now claim universal credit. Ffs that is pitiful from the chancellor

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[Nick]

Basically saying keep kids in the garden. Go for a bike ride etc but dont go to the park with loads of other kids.

 

[David O'Day]

Let’s give boris and the government some credit now, there really going to help everybody out..... credit where it’s due

No.they are not. The hard basically helping business out with very little for the most vulnerable in society

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[Nick]

There is going to be strain on the NHS with fat twats and also mental issues. I wonder how that will work

 

[Magwitch]

Tories stay in power on the back of getting Brexit done and implement mass socialism. Is anyone else concerned for Grendels mental health?


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Will be interesting when this all blows over there’s going to be little old stand alone Britain competing with the might of the America, Europe and Asia looking for trade deals, oh dear.

 

[David O'Day]

Puts the constant worry of possibly being laid off to bed

People will still get laid off. Some places with no income can't even afford to pay 20% of their payroll.

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[Deleted member 5849]

I do understand people live according to their means, but government paying wages of £2.5k a month is quite a lot...

 

[shmmeee]

Let’s give boris and the government some credit now, there really going to help everybody out..... credit where it’s due

Everyone who isn’t made redundant or on ZHC, but yes credit where it’s due. Let’s hope employers don’t take the piss.

 

[Astute]

I know we're only just coming into the midst of this thing but is anyone else getting concerned over the long term economic impact not just of the disruption but the rescue packages? We've already got nowhere to go but negative on interest rates.

I was already concerned. A big reason why I don't want lockdown. You have the personal reasons then you have the bigger picture.

But millions are not listening to what they need to do so it will have to happen.

Yet some still go on about we should have locked down before many got the virus. They still say we have done it all wrong. They refuse to look at the whole picture.

 

[CCFCSteve]

It's a bung to employers. Hope the terms are tight enough that they return to full pay ASAP and are retained in the job for a reasonable period afterwards. It's better but like you say supply side as usual.

It’s got to be Fernando otherwise employers would make significant numbers of employees redundant now

 

[shmmeee]

I do understand people live according to their means, but government paying wages of £2.5k a month is quite a lot...

Single income family in London might disagree with you TBF. That’s what? £30k/year? (I assume this is pre tax)

 

[CCFCSteve]

Whoever knew a country could afford all this

We can’t but this is an international emergency/crisis FFS ! This is going to cost us all for years to come

 

[shmmeee]

I was already concerned. A big reason why I don't want lockdown. You have the personal reasons then you have the bigger picture.

But millions are not listening to what they need to do so it will have to happen.

Yet some still go on about we should have locked down before many got the virus. They still say we have done it all wrong. They refuse to look at the whole picture.

Who has said we should go into lockdown at all? Let alone weeks ago? People have been asking for stronger “advice” or enforced shutting of pubs, no one is asking for lockdown.

 

[shmmeee]

We can’t but this is an international emergency/crisis FFS ! This is going to cost us all for years to come

Just like those famous post war austerity years...wait.

 

[David O'Day]

I do understand people live according to their means, but government paying wages of £2.5k a month is quite a lot...

But it is only 80 percent of their normal take home people are still poorer and will spend less.

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[cc84cov]

If the virus don’t end us sure as shit the recession will...

 

[David O'Day]

We can’t but this is an international emergency/crisis FFS ! This is going to cost us all for years to come

We can afford it, it's always prudent to.borrow when the cost is low. Multipliers show we would of earned even more back in normal times.

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