Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (57 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

Coronavirus: Govt set to release 'contact tracking' app which detects nearby virus carriers

why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

 

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[Sick Boy]

why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

Because depressingly people seem to fall and defend their bullshit.

 

[ccfcricoh]

why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

I get the sentiment but i highly doubt the bloke sat developing an app is the same one frantically building testing kits

 

[clint van damme]

I get the sentiment but i highly doubt the bloke sat developing an app is the same one frantically building testing kits

No, but they'll they'll be a cost involved in developing it and rolling it out. Use it to get more testing done!
This app will be next to useless anyway if we don't get a decent number of the population tested. They'll be about 300 people in the database!

 

[ccfcricoh]

No, but they'll they'll be a cost involved in developing it and rolling it out. Use it to get more testing done!
This app will be next to useless anyway if we don't get a decent number of the population tested. They'll be about 300 people in the database!

Appreciate that - although i dont think money is necessarily the constraint in number of tests either, although i may be incorrect. I thought it was more logistics of not having enough

 

[cc84cov]

Scary but not a surprise unfortunately, especially with lower numbers over the last couple of days. Just got to hope this doesn’t start to increase exponentially (day on day).

Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

Because we’ve got members of the cabinet who own companies that make soft ware and apps.

 

[shmmeee]

I think the 393 includes a catch up from those who died outside of hospital previously not reported
Even so - if we are going to be around 25k deaths, and we are at the peak in around 2 weeks, that number will probably double by then

Doubling every 2.8 days or so. Two weeks time it’ll be four or eight times that on this trend (though hopefully the trend doesn’t continue as we hit the lockdown effect period)

 

[cc84cov]

Doubling every 2.8 days or so. Two weeks time it’ll be four or eight times that on this trend (though hopefully the trend doesn’t continue as we hit the lockdown effect period)

Let’s hope this lockdown has worked then as That’s when we will see if it has.

 

[shmmeee]

I think the 393 includes a catch up from those who died outside of hospital previously not reported
Even so - if we are going to be around 25k deaths, and we are at the peak in around 2 weeks, that number will probably double by then

All died in hospital according to the NHS. This is just us returning to trend after the weekend I reckon.

 

[Grendel]

Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk

it’s fairly obvious that most countries of similar populations in Europe will ultimately end up with similar death rates it’s just how the virus can be managed within health system limits - there’s no actual cure and a predictable and consistent infection rate. It’s not just going to vanish

 

[cc84cov]

All died in hospital according to the NHS. This is just us returning to trend after the weekend I reckon.

How do you see it going ?

 

[cc84cov]

it’s fairly obvious that most countries of similar populations in Europe will ultimately end up with similar death rates it’s just how the virus can be managed within health system limits - there’s no actual cure and a predictable and consistent infection rate. It’s not just going to vanish

I think I was just hoping we would stay stable mate

 

[CCFCSteve]

Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk

We all were mate but realistically it’s unlikely to consistently drop for (I’m guessing) a couple of weeks as there will be a lag between the social distancing measures impacting the number of cases and in turn the number of deaths. All we can hope for in the meantime is for numbers to not get totally out of control (ie that type of percentage jump every day)

 

[fernandopartridge]

why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps

 

[shmmeee]

How do you see it going ?

God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.

 

[shmmeee]

What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps

I’m telling you!

 

[CCFCSteve]

What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps

Can’t get him off tinder and bumble apparently

 

[cc84cov]

God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.

Italy not out yet mate

 

[Jcap]

Appreciate that - although i dont think money is necessarily the constraint in number of tests either, although i may be incorrect. I thought it was more logistics of not having enough

The app is already in use in other countries, including here in Singapore. It works by recording via bluetooth any contacts within 2m (or 5m if over a period of 30mins), but doesn't release that data unless someone develops symptoms. If the person who develops symptoms has the app, the authorities can download the data and instantly trace and track anyone that person has come into contact with (who also had the app). Not foolproof but its a useful tool to help identify people who may have the virus, alongside the police, health ministry special teams etc who are all working to track down potential virus carriers. I've also been getting calls every day from the ministry of health here since I arrived back from the US - even though I didn't have a stay at home notice, I was identified as someone coming in from a high risk country, and they are following every single person up that has flown into Singapore. Kind of puts the UK effort into perspective, though admittedly it's much easier with only 5,5m population vs UKs 65m+.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Can’t get him off tinder and bumble apparently

We all know he's a bumbling idiot.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.

Italy doing well in the last 4 days, nervously waiting for their numbers today

 

[CCFCSteve]

God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.

Agree shmmeee, stabilising/slowing the confirmed cases (which let’s be honest are hospitalised cases over here) over the next week or two has got to be the hope

 

[clint van damme]

What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps

tracks people suffering from the virus apparently so your mobile can tell you if there's a suffer near. It's the 21st century equivalent of ring a plague bell.

 

[Sick Boy]

God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.

Announced at 18:00 here, will post them up.

 

[David O'Day]

Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk

If you mean Chloe Middleton she died of a heart attack and was never tested for the coronavirus

 

[David O'Day]

Scary but not a surprise unfortunately, especially with lower numbers over the last couple of days. Just got to hope this doesn’t start to increase exponentially (day on day).

Yeah people need to look at trends not individual numbers

 

[Johnnythespider]

All died in hospital according to the NHS. This is just us returning to trend after the weekend I reckon.

The guy on the bbc said yesterday that the last 2 weekends have given hope only to be dashed the following Tuesday, looks the same this week, seems to be a lag on weekend figures

 

[fernandopartridge]

tracks people suffering from the virus apparently so your mobile can tell you if there's a suffer near. It's the 21st century equivalent of ring a plague bell.

What a load of shite

 

[Tommo1993]

Hope they didn’t spend a lot on this app.

 

[David O'Day]

The guy on the bbc said yesterday that the last 2 weekends have given hope only to be dashed the following Tuesday, looks the same this week, seems to be a lag on weekend figures

The bbc do like to paint everything as a worst case scenario. As I said we have to look at trends.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

So every Tuesday is also the weekends figures? Is that why its such a sharp rise?

 

[cc84cov]

If you mean Chloe Middleton she died of a heart attack and was never tested for the coronavirus

No this is a new case in the last 24 hours mate

 

[shmmeee]

The guy on the bbc said yesterday that the last 2 weekends have given hope only to be dashed the following Tuesday, looks the same this week, seems to be a lag on weekend figures

That’s my working theory.

 

[shmmeee]

So every Tuesday is also the weekends figures? Is that why its such a sharp rise?

Figures are up to 5pm the day before. So this is Sun 5 - Mon 5 today. Monday is Sat-Sun and so on.

The theory I have, though aware those better in the know like @MalcSB disagree, is that for various reasons numbers are lower at the weekend. Which is quite normal in a lot of datasets.