Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (12 Viewers)

[hill83]

I'm a prisoner in my own country!

Settle down. Could be worse.

There’s a castle in Durham apparently.

 

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[PVA]

But but bestest approval rating ever!

 

[David O'Day]

But but bestest approval rating ever!

But but grendal said

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[skybluetony176]

I see Peter Bone has been calling it straight on Julia Hartley-Brewers radio show this morning. Basically said regardless of what spin they put on it he broke the rules. That’s a Brexit campaigner in agreement with another Brexit campaigner that he broke the rules. These morons trying to make out it’s about Brexit need to either wise up or shut up.

 

[skybluetony176]

I see trip advisor has had to suspend new reviews on Barnard Castle following a wave of come and have your eyes tested, great place to escape Covid, great place to take your wife on her birthday type comments.

 

[olderskyblue]

Listening to Stephen Baker's interview on BBC Sunday morning, (I'm fairly sure he was the first Tory to go public with criticism), he basically said Cummings is not as influential as people think. Was he telling the truth though?

Given how he admitted he makes many mistakes each day, then I sincerely hope not....

 

[SIR ERNIE]

We are close to saying fuck it we’ll go to Greece if the flight is still going regardless of what the government is saying in mid July.

You’d feel comfortable spending several hours at a busy airport, then a further four hours on a plane within a few feet of other people??

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You’d feel comfortable spending several hours at a busy airport, then a further four hours on a plane within a few feet of other people??

Considering all the hours spent in shops since mid March with people not following the rules, yes. Particularly to ultimately go to a country with far less of a problem with the disease than we do.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You’d feel comfortable spending several hours at a busy airport, then a further four hours on a plane within a few feet of other people??

Yeah, that's what I don't get with all these holiday plans. Everybody reacts differently, of course, but the thought of being holed up somewhere, either having to queue for supermarket just in a different place, or having a socially distanced bar experience just doesn't appeal to me.

I guess I can understand camping or something (you get the miserable torment experience then anyway!) but the rest is just going to be a pale shadow, and remind me of what I could have had.

I'd rather wait until it's close-ish to normal and I can go to a restaurant safe that I won't have a masked waiter gesticulating furiously at my plate of food, set for me to go over and collect for myself!

And that's before any hassle crossing borders, or finding public toilets on the way that are open and usable...

 

[stupot07]

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[clint van damme]

ONS figures released.
Bad news - 47,000 deaths total.
Good news - deaths on the decline.

 

[David O'Day]

Considering all the hours spent in shops since mid March with people not following the rules, yes. Particularly to ultimately go to a country with far less of a problem with the disease than we do.

Yep why be worried about going to a country that even though is still at government level poor as fuck handled the pandemic a hundred times better than us?

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yep why be worried about going to a country that even though is still at government level poor as fuck handled the pandemic a hundred times better than us?

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They had one new case yesterday, 2 deaths.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

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Don’t forget Stu there’s no evidence at all that we’re the worst on the continent

 

[David O'Day]

They had one new case yesterday, 2 deaths.

Would you rather be in italy though

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[Liquid Gold]

Cummings but be really hated by rank and file Tories for them to keep on him like this. No way that resignation wasn't timed to keep the story at the top of the cycle.

I don't see where people think Johnson is resigning though, have you not been paying attention? Politicians can do what they want.

 

[PVA]

Would you rather be in italy though

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Seems we should have had Russian troops on the street to enforce lockdown like Italy did

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, that's what I don't get with all these holiday plans. Everybody reacts differently, of course, but the thought of being holed up somewhere, either having to queue for supermarket just in a different place, or having a socially distanced bar experience just doesn't appeal to me.

I guess I can understand camping or something (you get the miserable torment experience then anyway!) but the rest is just going to be a pale shadow, and remind me of what I could have had.

I'd rather wait until it's close-ish to normal and I can go to a restaurant safe that I won't have a masked waiter gesticulating furiously at my plate of food, set for me to go over and collect for myself!

And that's before any hassle crossing borders, or finding public toilets on the way that are open and usable...

I’ve assumed based on Greece’s trend in unwinding their lockdown that the experience will be fairly normal by mid July but we’ve got time to cancel for free if it changes. It’s hotels being closed here that are the main obstacle to us going due to the early flight.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Would you rather be in italy though

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Perhaps next year. This year I want cheap ouzo in a taverna

 

[Sick Boy]

Piers Morgan is a c**t, but he’s right about the tribal nature of politics recently. Since Brexit it’s just about defending your team, faux outrage, and intellectual dishonesty.

Very depressing. People genuinely don’t seem to understand how democracy works, what roles the press and opposition play constitutionally.

It’s so easy to see how atrocities happen, and at best it lets poor politicians off the hook.

Great post, we all want is best for the country, regardless of views on Brexit, these lot are a disgrace and not for for purpose.

 

[skybluetony176]

But but grendal said

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It wasn’t even true in the first place.

 

[David O'Day]

It wasn’t even true in the first place.

Like most things he says from politics to sport to history

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[David O'Day]

The story really isn't going away is it

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[clint van damme]

The story really isn't going away is it

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It's not just about Cummings anymore.
The part timer has backed him to the hilt and coerced the cabinet to do the same.
Gove made to look a complete pillock this morning in interviews and even Sunak getting some stick for defending Cummings.
Massive error of judgement by Johnson.

 

[djr8369]

I see the MP for Rugby is now calling for Cummings to resign. Anyone know the tally now of how many MPs have broken ranks?


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[clint van damme]

I see the MP for Rugby is now calling for Cummings to resign. Anyone know the tally now of how many MPs have broken ranks?

Think 21 have publicly criticised and the 1 resignation.

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[djr8369]

I suspect that might rise a bit today as MPs get bank to work from the bank holiday to find letter and emails of complaint and the polls start to reflect the public mood.


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[PVA]

I see the MP for Rugby is now calling for Cummings to resign. Anyone know the tally now of how many MPs have broken ranks?


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Good, I emailed him yesterday and seems like many others did too.

I thought he was too much of a tow the line Tory to actually ask for Cummings to resign though, fair play.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

It's not just about Cummings anymore.
The part timer has backed him to the hilt and coerced the cabinet to do the same.
Gove made to look a complete pillock this morning in interviews and even Sunak getting some stick for defending Cummings.
Massive error of judgement by Johnson.

Yep....I'm surprised they didn't go down the tried & tested route....
Make him "resign", let him lurk behind the scenes in an unofficial capacity & then welcome him back into the fold ready for the next campaign....

...worked for Blair & Campbell after all..

 

[David O'Day]

I suspect that might rise a bit today as MPs get bank to work from the bank holiday to find letter and emails of complaint and the polls start to reflect the public mood.


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They msps are starting to break rank as well

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[fernandopartridge]

Yep....I'm surprised they didn't go down the tried & tested route....
Make him "resign", let him lurk behind the scenes in an unofficial capacity & then welcome him back into the fold ready for the next campaign....

...worked for Blair & Campbell after all..

That has already happened with Cummings hasn't it?

 

[djr8369]

Yep....I'm surprised they didn't go down the tried & tested route....
Make him "resign", let him lurk behind the scenes in an unofficial capacity & then welcome him back into the fold ready for the next campaign....

...worked for Blair & Campbell after all..

Yeah politically seemed like the obvious thing to do.

Starting to think they’re trying to use it as an opportunity to galvanise their support against the media.


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[David O'Day]

That has already happened with Cummings hasn't it?

Yeah wasn't he at the DoE?

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[David O'Day]

The Dutch are bamming up Boris and co as well

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[Liquid Gold]

The Dutch are bamming up Boris and co as well

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Yeah but look at the replies. This country has been radicalised by social media.