fernandopartridge
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If Spain did the same it might actually have a greater political impact than the 60k + deaths, but I reckon it'll very quickly end up being spun as some sort of brexit related spite.
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If Spain did the same it might actually have a greater political impact than the 60k + deaths, but I reckon it'll very quickly end up being spun as some sort of brexit related spite.
fernandopartridge
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Coronavirus in England: half of those with symptoms not isolating
Why are people not isolating?
2k cases
324 deaths
Not exactly tumbling are they?
Why are people not isolating?
2k cases
324 deaths
Not exactly tumbling are they?
skybluetony176
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How many tests done?
SkyBlueDom26
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Deaths and cases down on last Friday, it won’t be a fast decline
SkyBlueDom26
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Going by this winding down of the furlough, it’s clear that they are banking everything on this vaccine working! Let’s fucking pray it does...
Good that they aren’t making companies pay anything back till September though apart from pensions in August
Good that they aren’t making companies pay anything back till September though apart from pensions in August
fernandopartridge
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130k not sure about people, I'll go with less than 60k
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fernandopartridge
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They don't care about a vaccine, they're banking on the docile public believing them that they're relatively safe, even though the threat level is still 4.
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SkyBlueDom26
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Bollocks, we’ll find out if the vaccine works by the start of July.... to say they don’t care about a vaccine is just stupid, we’ve spent more than anybody trying to find one
clint van damme
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Don't talk whet. Vaccine by July for fucks sake.
Just like the world class track and trace that's going to be up and running Monday.
David O'Day
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Furlough tapering is going to fuck things up.
Come August so many more people are going to.be unemployed
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Come August so many more people are going to.be unemployed
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skybluetony176
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Certainly ain’t going to be more than 65K
David O'Day
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By July, they'll have results from on set of testing. They then have to do the testing again and again.
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fernandopartridge
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You're utterly utterly deluded if you think there will be
1. An effective vaccine by July tested sufficiently for sign off.
2. If in the incredibly unlikely of 1) happening, a programme of vaccination this year
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SkyBlueDom26
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I didn’t fucking say it will be out by July did I, I said they will know if it works and they will do, that’s why we’re mass producing it ready for September
SkyBlueDom26
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We are in the final trial of the oxford vaccine
David O'Day
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They won't k ow if it works by the end of july.
They will know if it might work. They would then have to repeat the study multiple times to see if they get the same results.
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David O'Day
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Yes and then they have to try it on other control groups outside of oxford university
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It includes anti body tests as well now
clint van damme
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There won't be any vaccine in September either.
That's an unrealistic time frame according to every expert I've listened to and that's before you throw government incompetence into the mix.
Best case is if this Ebola drug works but even then 3 months is hopeful.
SkyBlueDom26
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That’s the spirit Clint! Even though we’ve masses produced them ready in case it does work!
clint van damme
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Ive put some of my best aftershave on in case Beyonce knocks on my door and asks for a date.
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Hang on, we've produced something just in case?!?
SkyBlueDom26
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Mass producing it for September
Skybluefaz
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It sounds very Boris like to spend millions on something that might not be of use. Where have you read that though?
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Are you sure?!?
It'd be absolute madness to mass produce something that might not even work!
clint van damme
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The fella running the project said having it ready for the end of 2020 is an ambitious target.
Although he did say the more cases the more test data the earlier they'll know if it works so Johnson's save Cummings strategy might just help out with that
skybluetony176
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Who’s going to tell Dom that they don’t even know if it works yet.
skybluetony176
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They’re producing a million vaccines IIRC in September in case it does work. It’s called at risk production or something like that.
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What's the cost? Seems like absolute insanity to me... although I suppose 1mil in terms of the wider context of the population is next to nothing.
skybluetony176
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Not sure of the costs to date although the government has pumped tens of millions in. The U.K. is part of a wider WHO consortium so the U.K. will only get a percentage of whatever is produced.
clint van damme
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I'm not going to knock them for that given their utterly abject performance on PPE.
But producing them for September doesn't mean ready to use in September.
skybluetony176
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They might get binned and not used at all if they’re found to be useless. Should know later this month all being well apparently. This is from the researchers not the government so there’s a good chance it might happen.
clint van damme
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And it's people involved saying end of year is ambitious so why Dom is getting excited expecting it to be available in September is a mystery.
shmmeee
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Bill Gates was on about mass producing 6 vaccines at once and only keeping the one that works. Says a few billion is nothing compared to the global cost of lockdown for an extra few months.
Sumo the Micky Quinn
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Spain is already saying they are going to allow Germany and France tourist in soon, but no mention of the UK. Spain will only allow brits in when the 2 week quarantine has been stopped and that other criteria has been met. Some areas Madrid, Barcelona and a few other locations are still in full lockdown in phase 0, here in the canaries we are in phase 2.
Hotels which open will not be able to serve buffet style meals, self service all inclusive ice cream are also to be band. Our council is looking to ban All Inclusives, so that people actually leave their hotel and spend money elsewhere.