Possible Site for the elusive new ground ? (4 Viewers)

[oldfiver]

Always thought it was common land, perhaps incorrectly.

Bid to turn Hearsall Common into village green is rejected

 

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[The Philosopher]

Don’t know why we don’t just try to “merge” with Sphinx (or Pinley or Broadstreet) and develop their site or similar. Might be some planning objections from local houses but you never know.

 

[mark82]

Hearsall Common is a non-starter. I just don't see that the council would allow it.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Hearsall Common is a non-starter. I just don't see that the council would allow it.

I agree on the political side. But the site itself ticks a hell of a lot of boxes.

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

When I finished my Herberts apprenticeship in1974, I was told I could graze my sheep on Hearsall common.
Never did buy a sheep though.

 

[AStonesThrow]

What about Northampton Town and Northampton Rugby ground. A stones throw. Less than 1 mile apart.

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[derbyskyblue]

You have Canley Station too, almost on the A45, lots of parking at nearby industrial estate, Village Hotel, Craven St, Earlsdon, close to City Centre, great location, cant see it ever happening though

When its put like that it certainly does tick all boxes.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Bid to turn Hearsall Common into village green is rejected

This is interesting:

he current statutory protection permits the council to use the entire space for highways, to let the land to private sports clubs excluding everyone else in the community, and, subject to some restrictions, to dispose of the land so it could be used for development.”

I think a 150 year lease should be sufficient.

 

[mark82]

My guess would be that if it ever happened it would be on the outskirts of the city somewhere.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

When I finished my Herberts apprenticeship in1974, I was told I could graze my sheep on Hearsall common.
Never did buy a sheep though.

I’m a Freeman of the City too (apprentice at the Alvis). I have often wondered what would happen if anyone tried to put a flock of sheep on there?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

My guess would be that if it ever happened it would be on the outskirts of the city somewhere.

Yep with good transport links to the motorway network

 

[Somerset Sky Blue]

I’m a Freeman of the City too (apprentice at the Alvis). I have often wondered what would happen if anyone tried to put a flock of sheep on there?

Could we just put a flock of seagulls on it - some great hairdos!

 

[oldfiver]

I’m a Freeman of the City too (apprentice at the Alvis). I have often wondered what would happen if anyone tried to put a flock of sheep on there?

I always thought it was a cow - but "each Coventry freeman had the right to turn out two horses and one cow or two cows and one horse upon the waste, the Lammas lands, and the Michaelmas lands, provided that at no time were more than three of his beasts at pasture"

The City of Coventry: The common lands | British History Online

 

[Philosoraptor]

CIty Centre South is currently under consultation

The consultation website is below and only open for a few weeks

Coventry Centre South

I'm sure the companies and Council would love to see everyone designs for a new stadium on the site.

The more outlandish, the better, please.

 

[TewkesburySkyBlue]

I was interested to hear Rob Gurney on the Sky Blues Extra pod saying he thought the solution ultimately was a new stadium not the Ricoh.

 

[mark82]

I was interested to hear Rob Gurney on the Sky Blues Extra pod saying he thought the solution ultimately was a new stadium not the Ricoh.

Yep, the Ricoh is Wasps stadium now. We need our own. Still doesn't negate the fact we need to be back at the Ricoh in the short term.

 

[robbiekeane]

Jesus Christ why on earth would we want to repeat our mistakes and have another stadium in the same area as the Ricoh? If we get a new stadium it needs to be in a good location where you can have a good match day experience with easy transport links.
Otherwise we may as well be at the Ricoh.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

My guess would be that if it ever happened it would be on the outskirts of the city somewhere.

Out of town stadiums dont work, I think a 2 mile limit max, Paul Fletcher has even stated this.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Despite their occasional bluster on this matter I have still yet to see any evidence that SISU have the slightest intention of building a new stadium, so as far as playing in Cov is concerned it's the Ricoh or nothing. After all it must be 7 or 8 years now since we were first told of their intention to build our own stadium, yet here we are all these years later no nearer to even starting that process. Given that reality, the question is on what terms do we play at the Ricoh, and I am a bit surprised that SISU haven't made public noises about building on this adjoining site, even if they have no intention of doing so, as a means of putting the wind up Wasps and Cov Council, and negotiating themselves the best possible deal to play there. SISU's end game though still has to be ownership of the stadium, either through Wasps financial troubles or the EU review leading to them obtaining some kind of stake in its ownership, even if it is shared. I see no prospect of SISU investing in a new stadium, and as such we are just kidding ourselves coming up with ideas about Hearsall Common, Ikea or this site.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

I always thought it was a cow - but "each Coventry freeman had the right to turn out two horses and one cow or two cows and one horse upon the waste, the Lammas lands, and the Michaelmas lands, provided that at no time were more than three of his beasts at pasture"

The City of Coventry: The common lands | British History Online

Never really looked at what the official rights of a Freeman of Coventry entitles you to.

 

[Tommo1993]

Despite their occasional bluster on this matter I have still yet to see any evidence that SISU have the slightest intention of building a new stadium, so as far as playing in Cov is concerned it's the Ricoh or nothing. After all it must be 7 or 8 years now since we were first told of their intention to build our own stadium, yet here we are all these years later no nearer to even starting that process. Given that reality, the question is on what terms do we play at the Ricoh, and I am a bit surprised that SISU haven't made public noises about building on this adjoining site, even if they have no intention of doing so, as a means of putting the wind up Wasps and Cov Council, and negotiating themselves the best possible deal to play there. SISU's end game though still has to be ownership of the stadium, either through Wasps financial troubles or the EU review leading to them obtaining some kind of stake in its ownership, even if it is shared. I see no prospect of SISU investing in a new stadium, and as such we are just kidding ourselves coming up with ideas about Hearsall Common, Ikea or this site.

There’s literally nothing can be said on this topic but this. Waste of time.

 

[shepardo01]

Honestly think that any discussion around any site in Coventry under the jurisdiction of Coventry City Council is pointless.
Sadly, The council will do all they can to make life difficult for the Club and when pushed Duggins words were that "they would do the minimum required by law" to assist with a new stadium.
I wouldn't even trust them to do that.
I don't think some people know or are aware of the Council's absolute hate for SISU and at points in this saga have been happy for CCFC to go to the wall and out of spite not do any business with CCFC/SISU...

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Out of town stadiums dont work, I think a 2 mile limit max, Paul Fletcher has even stated this.

I really think this is overplayed. The Ricoh is 3 miles from the City Centre, which is hardly the ends of the earth. I know its not HR, and I get that circumstance has meant that the place has never really felt like our own, but the distance argument always seemed like a convenient excuse for those that couldn't be arsed going anymore. If the move to the Ricoh had coincided with success on the pitch, combined with an ownership stake in the stadium, then infrastructure would have naturally evolved around that to improve the match day experience. Unfortunately the opposite happened, but to move forward now we somehow have to try and make this work for us.

 

[ccfcway]

Honestly think that any discussion around any site in Coventry under the jurisdiction of Coventry City Council is pointless.
Sadly, The council will do all they can to make life difficult for the Club and when pushed Duggins words were that "they would do the minimum required by law" to assist with a new stadium.
I wouldn't even trust them to do that.
I don't think some people know or are aware of the Council's absolute hate for SISU and at points in this saga have been happy for CCFC to go to the wall and out of spite not do any business with CCFC/SISU...

spot on. The club should be doing all it can to make this clear to fans

 

[mark82]

Out of town stadiums dont work, I think a 2 mile limit max, Paul Fletcher has even stated this.

Yeah, I'm not a fan either but unfortunately that's where land suitable for development tends to be.

 

[shmmeee]

I agree on the political side. But the site itself ticks a hell of a lot of boxes.

Not sure the surrounding roads could take the traffic could they? Or the whole thing get past neighbour consultation for that matter.

 

[Tommo1993]

Can either be tenants to a vagabond rugby club, or tenants to fellow championship club, giving them financial advantage.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Not sure the surrounding roads could take the traffic could they? Or the whole thing get past neighbour consultation for that matter.

I said it ticks a lot of boxes, not all.

Roads would be an issue. It's not far from the A45 down Broad Lane but Broad Lane itself might be a problem on matchdays as it can get busy just with normal workday traffic. Plus it's not easily accessible from the motorway even though it's the 'right' side of town.

On the plus side though quick journey from Birm Int to Canley for away fans on those European games

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Never really looked at what the official rights of a Freeman of Coventry entitles you to.

It gives you the right to do voiceovers and monologues in an incredibly smooth tone.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Possibility of buying a 50% stake in an already built stadium in Wigan.

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

I’m a Freeman of the City too (apprentice at the Alvis). I have often wondered what would happen if anyone tried to put a flock of sheep on there?

Haha we would get arrested, and we are to old to run away ( well I certainly am) lol

 

[fernandopartridge]

There’s literally nothing can be said on this topic but this. Waste of time.

Tbh the thread is a bit of fantasy and some of us accept that a new stadium under new owners would be the ideal outcome. The Ricoh is tainted and should only ever be a stopgap until we sort our own one out. Even the design of the arena isn't the club's original but a value engineered piece of shite from architects of Tesco.

 

[Feb57]

Tbh the thread is a bit of fantasy and some of us accept that a new stadium under new owners would be the ideal outcome. The Ricoh is tainted and should only ever be a stopgap until we sort our own one out. Even the design of the arena isn't the club's original but a value engineered piece of shite from architects of Tesco.

Yes it is. As I think most people would get from the words I used like elusive, fairytale ground and I can dream.
I don’t think for one moment Sisu have either the finance or wherewithal to build us a new Stadium, but what I do know, is, if it were come to pass and be within the city boundary then they need CCC on board. Without them it will be very difficult to build, if not impossible. Which is why, if it is to be built, it will be on the periphery of the city(my opinion).

 

[chiefdave]

See the council are prepared to use compulsory purchase powers to assist the developer of city centre south (if it happens, seems to be a new plan every couple of years). Kind of goes against the idea that the council can only stick to planning law and have no other influence.

 

[shmmeee]

See the council are prepared to use compulsory purchase powers to assist the developer of city centre south (if it happens, seems to be a new plan every couple of years). Kind of goes against the idea that the council can only stick to planning law and have no other influence.

Not sure how that proves councils can break planning law. CPOs are part of planning law.