Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (169 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Which is totally understdable to me and a reason why people are left with no choice but to not isolate even when asked and worse when symptomatic

Yep. People shouldn't be punished for doing the right thing.

 

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[fernandopartridge]

Premier league announces 40 positive tests between 28th Dec and Jan 3rd......
Think Govt may take notice of this....

How many managers are over 60 or potentially at risk?

 

[SBT]

apparently groups have been congregating around places doing take away beer.
Sounds like absolute bollocks to me.
I'm sure there's more congregating going on in every aisle of the supermarket.

I've seen loads of people doing it. Maybe it's just a naughty Londoner thing.

 

[Brylowes]

I don't know what it is about bog roll that makes it such a prime candidate for panic buying.

Yeah cus even if you do run out there’s still the Daily Mail

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Over 60,000 new, daily cases for the first time

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

GCSEs and A-level exams also confirmed as cancelled in England with teacher assessments to be used instead.

 

[chiefdave]

So seems part of the issue is glass vials.
Could they not pre load the syringes hermetically sealed and ready to go .
Might actually speed up the jab process too.

The BBC article is interesting. Around 15 million doses of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine in the country, about half what the government said would be available by the end of 2020 but only 4 million have been filled and finished ready for use. Interestingly the factory in Wales where this finish and fill is being done say they can do 150,000 a day, so even without Pfizer that's a million a week.

So if we have 4 million Oxford AstraZeneca ready to go and presumably at least the same Pfizer (BBC report is a vague 'fewer than five million') that's 8 millions doses ready to go. Yet the latest official figure, on December 27th, was 944,539 vaccines administered with Johnson saying yesterday that would rise to 2 million by the end of the week. Suggests supply isn't the bottleneck.

Also reports that each batch has to be approved and that is where the delay is, hopefully not as surely that would be something that should have been flagged in advance and capacity put in place.

Good news from India, they have confirmed they won't be blocking exports and should start shipping 'within weeks'. Presume they come ready to go so finish and fill not an issue.

 

[Ian1779]

 

[Brylowes]

GCSEs and A-level exams also confirmed as cancelled in England with teacher assessments to be used instead.

That has to be the sensible way to go doesn’t it, at least they’ve made a relatively early decision.
I presume this must ease some of the pressure you’ve been under.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Over 60,000 new, daily cases for the first time

And still Mrs Wisdom's work can't decide if she should go in next week...

 

[CCFCSteve]

Great move !

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That has to be the sensible way to go doesn’t it, at least they’ve made a relatively early decision.
I presume this must ease some of the pressure you’ve been under.

It does in one regard but I don’t know how we deliver the rest of the course with the students knowing what rides on it.

 

[Ian1779]

That has to be the sensible way to go doesn’t it, at least they’ve made a relatively early decision.
I presume this must ease some of the pressure you’ve been under.

It’s welcome - I’d like to see some scrutiny of all schools and their methodology of making predictions to keep it equitable. If they apply last years rationale - every class under a certain size will have no challenge to CAG’s and will be abused.... something I believe certain schools were privy to in advance.

 

[ajsccfc]

If they can change CBeebies too it'd be nice, anything to get fucking Bing the Bunny off the screen. Whiny little shit.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If they can change CBeebies too it'd be nice, anything to get fucking Bing the Bunny off the screen. Whiny little shit.

Two foot the twat

 

[CCFCSteve]

The BBC article is interesting. Around 15 million doses of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine in the country, about half what the government said would be available by the end of 2020 but only 4 million have been filled and finished ready for use. Interestingly the factory in Wales where this finish and fill is being done say they can do 150,000 a day, so even without Pfizer that's a million a week.

So if we have 4 million Oxford AstraZeneca ready to go and presumably at least the same Pfizer (BBC report is a vague 'fewer than five million') that's 8 millions doses ready to go. Yet the latest official figure, on December 27th, was 944,539 vaccines administered with Johnson saying yesterday that would rise to 2 million by the end of the week. Suggests supply isn't the bottleneck.

Also reports that each batch has to be approved and that is where the delay is, hopefully not as surely that would be something that should have been flagged in advance and capacity put in place.

Good news from India, they have confirmed they won't be blocking exports and should start shipping 'within weeks'. Presume they come ready to go so finish and fill not an issue.

Daily updates on Vaccines administered from next Monday which is good news (well, if it’s going well)

Also heard batch checking is part of the issue but guessing there will challenges in various aspects of the supply to delivery.

Ps think we should see how things pan out. The roll out isn’t going too badly and should ramp up in coming days

 

[AOM]

Two foot the twat

Starting a petition for Michael Doyle to replace Tom Hardy reading bedtime stories to kids on CBBC

 

[chiefdave]

Ps think we should see how things pan out. The roll out isn’t going too badly and should ramp up in coming days

Government create their own problems a lot of the time. If they hadn't made any mention of getting 10 million doses of Pfizer and 30 million doses of Cambridge Astra by the end of 2020 then we'd all be thinking it was going brilliantly in terms of getting hold of vaccines. Over promising leads to people asking 'where's the rest' when Johnson talks about 2 million by the end of the week.

My concern is the way they've been throwing dates around the last couple of days and shouting about being ahead of Europe they've setting themselves up. IMO would be better off with lower, more realistic, aims and then if we get ahead of them it gives everyone a boost.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

My concern is the way they've been throwing dates around the last couple of days and shouting about being ahead of Europe they've setting themselves up. IMO would be better off with lower, more realistic, aims and then if we get ahead of them it gives everyone a boost.

Yeah, April would still be good, relatively...

 

[shmmeee]

GCSEs and A-level exams also confirmed as cancelled in England with teacher assessments to be used instead.

Any news on SATs?

my daughter is screwed if it’s teacher assessment, she’s really turned a corner with maths but it hasn’t been formally baselines yet so they keep undershooting her ability. Really hope Y7 teams don’t put too much stock in this years data.

 

[shmmeee]

Missus just text. She’s getting her first shot next week as NHS staff (not front line either), makes me a lot happier about her travelling to COVID central each day.

 

[Ian1779]

Any news on SATs?

my daughter is screwed if it’s teacher assessment, she’s really turned a corner with maths but it hasn’t been formally baselines yet so they keep undershooting her ability. Really hope Y7 teams don’t put too much stock in this years data.

Not heard anything yet - personally i would scrap for this year, and use the remaining time to develop reading, comprehension and numeracy (as well as all the other Year 6 post SATS activities that they deserve) - schools can use other data like CATS and Reading age to inform them.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Government create their own problems a lot of the time. If they hadn't made any mention of getting 10 million doses of Pfizer and 30 million doses of Cambridge Astra by the end of 2020 then we'd all be thinking it was going brilliantly in terms of getting hold of vaccines. Over promising leads to people asking 'where's the rest' when Johnson talks about 2 million by the end of the week.

My concern is the way they've been throwing dates around the last couple of days and shouting about being ahead of Europe they've setting themselves up. IMO would be better off with lower, more realistic, aims and then if we get ahead of them it gives everyone a boost.

I agree about managing expectations but theres also a difference between doses available and how it can be administered (safely). Not sure how/why those original numbers came out, from memory it was during the summer when AZ/Gov were saying how much they could produce by autumn. But as the vaccine was only signed off on 30 Dec it’s kind of irrelevant as I presume they weren’t going to produce tens of millions in advance off sign off.

The focus should be on can/will they deliver the 2m per week from mid Jan. Let’s hope so !

 

[hill83]

Starting a petition for Michael Doyle to replace Tom Hardy reading bedtime stories to kids on CBBC

SHFCBBCHF

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Any news on SATs?

my daughter is screwed if it’s teacher assessment, she’s really turned a corner with maths but it hasn’t been formally baselines yet so they keep undershooting her ability. Really hope Y7 teams don’t put too much stock in this years data.

Not been revealed yet but any secondary worth its salt will do its own baseline tests

 

[Ian1779]

Not been revealed yet but any secondary worth its salt will do its own baseline tests

We actually did none - but that was because we didn’t want to put pressure on kids that had missed 6 months of school and had no transition.
I hope this year it will be better with a transition process so it won’t be overbearing and more manageable for the Year 7.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We actually did none - but that was because we didn’t want to put pressure on kids that had missed 6 months of school and had no transition.
I hope this year it will be better with a transition process so it won’t be overbearing and more manageable for the Year 7.

It’s all about framing, primary school assessments are bollocks for the most part anyway so we need to know where the intake are at regardless.

 

[MusicDating]

They should do a Blue Peter totaliser on vaccine numbers...

 

[Ian1779]

It’s all about framing, primary school assessments are bollocks for the most part anyway so we need to know where the intake are at regardless.

Don’t disagree as such, however I feel there is an argument to be made on the timings of when they take place... I’m not convinced it’s a productive way to start big school. I used to be a big fan of them, but years of scrutinising the data from them told me I didn’t learn anything I already could get from CATS and especially reading age which should have the biggest profile of all IMO.

The average reading age to access GCSE content is 15 and a half years. 25% of kids doing GCSE’s have a reading age below 13 years. That’s essentially writing off all those kids before you start because they struggle with Tier 2 and 3 words - never mind your subject specific terminology, your contextual words and abstract language.

We expect kids to read and interpret 19th century Dickens or 16th century Shakespeare when they would struggle with Harry Potter.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Figures look bad today don’t they? Definitely going to have upwards of 6000 deaths a week

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

Just seen starmer is calling for round the clock vaccinations. WTF WHY AREN’T WE DOING THAT ALREADY?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don’t disagree as such, however I feel there is an argument to be made on the timings of when they take place... I’m not convinced it’s a productive way to start big school. I used to be a big fan of them, but years of scrutinising the data from them told me I didn’t learn anything I already could get from CATS and especially reading age which should have the biggest profile of all IMO.

The average reading age to access GCSE content is 15 and a half years. 25% of kids doing GCSE’s have a reading age below 13 years. That’s essentially writing off all those kids before you start because they struggle with Tier 2 and 3 words - never mind your subject specific terminology, your contextual words and abstract language.

We expect kids to read and interpret 19th century Dickens or 16th century Shakespeare when they would struggle with Harry Potter.

I agree the timing should be sensitively managed, but all the same teachers need to know what they're dealing with and data from primary schools is more often than not unreliable.

 

[Grendel]

Just seen starmer is calling for round the clock vaccinations. WTF WHY AREN’T WE DOING THAT ALREADY?

Administering it would be impossible it’s a throwaway comment

 

[CCFCSteve]

Just seen starmer is calling for round the clock vaccinations. WTF WHY AREN’T WE DOING THAT ALREADY?

Supplies, staffing and possibly some difficulties in getting the 80+ year olds down the docs at 3am

 

[Grendel]

Supplies, staffing and possibly some difficulties in getting the 80+ year olds down the docs at 3am

The shambles that has occurred across Europe shows this is one area the government really should not be criticised on as of yet