Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (109 Viewers)

[Brylowes]

Sorry to bang on but has anyone got a clue what is going on with vaccinations? It seems a total lottery at the moment who is getting them.

There's a post on my local Facebook group asking if anyone has been contacted from a patient at the same surgery as my Dad. As with my Dad (83 and with health issues) they haven't heard a thing and have been told the surgery doesn't yet have vaccines. However there's replies from people at other surgeries saying they've been vaccinated, and in some cases have already had both doses. Is this not centralised in any way? How can we be implementing the priority system if some surgeries are moving down the list while some haven't even started.

I was under the impression we were trying to get this done as quickly as possible with mass vaccination centres. There was a job advert put out by University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Trust last year for staff for centres at the NEC, Airport, Edgbaston, Villa Park and Millennium Point yet today the government announced there will be seven centres nationwide and only one in the Midlands at Millennium Point. They also said yesterday that there will be 1,000 local centres and 700 are already open. There's over 1,250 hospitals and over 7,500 GP practices so what happens if yours isn't on the list and the bookings aren't being done centrally?

Want to be confident this is being properly managed and my parents, not to mention myself, will get the vaccine as soon as entitled but there's too many inconsistencies in what we're being told at the moment.

My Mum 85 received her 2nd jab this morning, we were expecting a phone call last week cancelling it but thankfully it never came, really pleased she’s been done.

Wrong thread I know but massively kicking off in Washington atm, very worrying.

 

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[cowboy1850]

My kids school has had over 220 applications for the max. 80 places reserved for key workers.....that's nearly half the school.....loads of desperate folk desperately pleading and trying to secure some form of childcare so they can go work.....I've heard others locally are even more over subscribed...

...the head has basically now gotta choose who's most worthy/least vulnerable...

I know they finally had to close schools.....but this is fucking catastrophic for millions.....

The school where I work has a quarter of the kids in as key worker kids. It doesn't feel like a lockdown or like much has changed. And I can't believe the arrogance of some people who don't wear masks or break bubbles and think they won't get it or pass it around to others.

 

[Saddlebrains]

UHCW ICU is 100% Covid I've been informed by my NHS worker friend. George Elliott at 104% capacity.


Lets hope the numbers start going down again soon

 

[chiefdave]

UHCW ICU is 100% Covid I've been informed by my NHS worker friend. George Elliott at 104% capacity.

Hope there's some miss-communication there. Andy Hardy, chief exec of UHCW, told the Telegraph today there is 158 patients in total with covid in UHCW.

Of the 158 patients at University Hospital who have Covid, 25 of those are in critical care - a lower proportion than that during the previous height of the pandemic in April 2020.

"We have learned how to treat people differently to keep them out of critical care," said Mr Hardy.

"We have had Covid now for approaching a year, so we have learned lessons."

At the start of this week, the UK's Covid threat level was moved up to level 5 - the most serious - meaning that there is a "material risk of healthcare services being overwhelmed".

And while doctors and nurses across the country are warning of wards being at breaking point due to coronavirus, Mr Hardy said that Coventry is coping right now, although he does expect a rise in Covid patients in the coming weeks.

"That (alert level) has come up with the potential overwhelming of the NHS, but that isn't the situation here in Coventry," he said.

"We have seen numbers increasing and they are about the same as we got to in April last year.

"We are anticipating that with infection rates going up locally, over the next two or three weeks we will see numbers (of patients) go up, although I can't see a situation where we can't cope."

Coventry hospital boss slams Covid conspiracy theory

He also says fighting coronavirus is "a battle we will win"

www.coventrytelegraph.net

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

My Mum 85 received her 2nd jab this morning, we were expecting a phone call last week cancelling it but thankfully it never came, really pleased she’s been done.

Wrong thread I know but massively kicking off in Washington atm, very worrying.

Know you've had it rough with your pub but at least this allows your mum some freedom in a few weeks.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Hope there's some miss-communication there. Andy Hardy, chief exec of UHCW, told the Telegraph today there is 158 patients in total with covid in UHCW.

Coventry hospital boss slams Covid conspiracy theory

He also says fighting coronavirus is "a battle we will win"

www.coventrytelegraph.net

I hope so! Although far as im aware 25 covid in critical care would possibly equate to a full ICU?

Will message now and see whats said

 

[Brylowes]

Know you've had it rough with your pub but at least this allows your mum some freedom in a few weeks.

Oh definitely, she’s younger than her years and very active, her grandkids are everythino to her and I know not being able to spend time with them (especially at Christmas) has had a big impact on her.
So long as she doesn’t start going out partying all the time I’m hoping she can start seeing them again soon, though things change with this so quickly.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I hope so! Although far as im aware 25 covid in critical care would possibly equate to a full ICU?

Will message now and see whats said

Think there are 37 beds. Not sure if that's an increase on standard capacity or whether it's 37 + surge. Cov has done reasonably well through the whole pandemic in relation to other cities

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Just smiled at a student on TV telling the interviewer that he was looking forward to proving he was the straight A student that he knows he is, then followed up by referring to 'Government intervenement' (I'm guessing at the spelling!). Hopefully he's doing A levels, and English isn't one of the subjects.

 

[Brylowes]

Think there are 37 beds. Not sure if that's an increase on standard capacity or whether it's 37 + surge. Cov has done reasonably well through the whole pandemic in relation to other cities

I’m speaking as someone with very limited knowledge, but 37 ICU beds for a City the size of Coventry seems very meagre even under normal circumstances, would equate to about 10 beds per 100.000 inhabitants wouldn’t it.

 

[fernandopartridge]

This is a catastrophe

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

This is a catastrophe

Hence the action taken. Certainly too late and potentially not severe enough

 

[Nick]

This is a catastrophe

Surely heads need to roll for the whole Tier 2 thing? Somebody thought it was a good idea to let everybody do what they wanted.

 

[Nick]

The roads were really busy this morning as well, don't know if there was an accident somewhere but loads of traffic.

Yeah I was on the road myself....Driving to work before anybody tries to be smart.

 

[Tommo1993]

Standard rush hour, I doubt all those on the roads can’t wfh. But go out between 9-4 and yeah the roads are quiet. Probably not as quiet as they should be though, this isn’t a scratch on first lockdown for some reason.

 

[David O'Day]

Think there are 37 beds. Not sure if that's an increase on standard capacity or whether it's 37 + surge. Cov has done reasonably well through the whole pandemic in relation to other cities

37 would be the normal ICU beds, the planned surge capacity was 150 in the first wave

UHCW planning huge five-fold increase in critical care beds

CoventryLive spoke exclusively to the CEO of University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust today about the situation at the hospital

www.coventrytelegraph.net

 

[chiefdave]

I’m speaking as someone with very limited knowledge, but 37 ICU beds for a City the size of Coventry seems very meagre even under normal circumstances, would equate to about 10 beds per 100.000 inhabitants wouldn’t it.

It is meagre, if you look at beds per 100K of population the UK is way down the list. For some reason doesn't seem to be getting mentioned much, other than by deniers making out its like this every year, that the NHS is on its knees and in crisis every winter. Should be a national scandal but somehow we've ended up accepting that ambulances will be queued up outside A&E as there isn't the capacity to take the patients.

Years of NHS neglect and diverting money to their mates rather than front line services has come back to haunt us.

 

[covmark]

The roads were really busy this morning as well, don't know if there was an accident somewhere but loads of traffic.

Yeah I was on the road myself....Driving to work before anybody tries to be smart.

Genuine question. What do you think everyone else is doing?

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[Brylowes]

It is meagre, if you look at beds per 100K of population the UK is way down the list. For some reason doesn't seem to be getting mentioned much, other than by deniers making out its like this every year, that the NHS is on its knees and in crisis every winter. Should be a national scandal but somehow we've ended up accepting that ambulances will be queued up outside A&E as there isn't the capacity to take the patients.

Years of NHS neglect and diverting money to their mates rather than front line services has come back to haunt us.

Nailed it.

 

[clint van damme]

big report on BBC this morning. Pretty grim at the moment and the peak not expected for another week or two.
NHS staffed burnt out and some experiencing mental health issues and in extreme cases PTSD.
Hopefully lockdown and the vaccine will mean that we're only a matter of months away from starting to see things getting better.
One bit of good news is that they were saying one of the reasons ICU under so much pressure is that some patients are staying in there for weeks but ultimately surviving due to improvements to treatment methods where at the start pandemic they would have died.

 

[Nick]

Genuine question. What do you think everyone else is doing?

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I am just comparing it to the last lockdown when roads were pretty much dead.

Maybe it's more relaxed with non essential tradesmen being allowed to work now compared to the last one and more people being keyworkers and carrying on?

No idea what everybody was doing but judging by some of the shops, going to get their DIY stuff for something to do today.

 

[tisza]

Having used curfew etc. to get new infection numbers down here we've now got the inevitable Xmas "rules relaxation" spike as new infections apparently up over 300% over last few days.

 

[Sbarcher]

My Mum 85 received her 2nd jab this morning, we were expecting a phone call last week cancelling it but thankfully it never came, really pleased she’s been done.

Wrong thread I know but massively kicking off in Washington atm, very worrying.

Here in Oxfordshire, anyone having first jab before 31st December will receive the 2nd during January. All 1st jabs from 1st Jan will not have the second for 12 weeks.

 

[Brylowes]

The roads were really busy this morning as well, don't know if there was an accident somewhere but loads of traffic.

Yeah I was on the road myself....Driving to work before anybody tries to be smart.

Let’s hope a good number of them are out there contributing in some way to the vaccination program.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I am just comparing it to the last lockdown when roads were pretty much dead.

Maybe it's more relaxed with non essential tradesmen being allowed to work now compared to the last one and more people being keyworkers and carrying on?

No idea what everybody was doing but judging by some of the shops, going to get their DIY stuff for something to do today.

There are also loads of employers who are refusing to furlough folks this time around.

I know of several parents who are now sharing home schooling duties with several other classmates or being forced to compromise their shielding relatives as folks have got to work to eat and the key worker allocation at schools is massively over-subscribed. People have no other choice.

Fucking shambles.

If the cunts in charge had got it right back in Oct & Nov, schools could have remained open now & millions of kids & their families wouldn't have to suffer like this.

The London tier 2 thing was a massive clusterfuck like you say, but also up here when Liverpool was relaxed into tier 2, many took at as an invite to party & the city was invaded by folk from all the surrounding tier 3/4 areas for a day out shopping, dining & boozing.......net result, Liverpool city region cases have now quadrupled in less than a fortnight.

 

[shmmeee]

Nationalism rots your brain

 

[Macca]

I swear if I hear “plandemic” “sheeple” “NWO” or hatred towards the NHS one more time I’m going to get stabby

 

[Nick]

Im going to buy some pans to bang tonight anyway.

 

[chiefdave]

I swear if I hear “plandemic” “sheeple” “NWO” or hatred towards the NHS one more time I’m going to get stabby

Seems there is now a problem with people trying to get into hospitals to film empty wards. Seemingly oblivious to that fact that outpatients would be closed in the middle of the night anyway or that wards have been shut as staff moved to work on covid patients.

 

[shmmeee]

Seems there is now a problem with people trying to get into hospitals to film empty wards. Seemingly oblivious to that fact that outpatients would be closed in the middle of the night anyway or that wards have been shut as staff moved to work on covid patients.

I saw they let the BBC into UCL wards. I’m glad they’re relaxing Those rules.

 

[Macca]

Seems there is now a problem with people trying to get into hospitals to film empty wards. Seemingly oblivious to that fact that outpatients would be closed in the middle of the night anyway or that wards have been shut as staff moved to work on covid patients.

I’ve seen this as well, fucking morons. It’s creepy and slightly noncey behaviour. I won’t be clapping this evening as my wife who is on the front line says it’s cringeworthy narcissism but of all the people to blame for this it isn’t the people working in hospitals

 

[Macca]

I’ve been into hospitals towards the end of visiting time particular the smaller ones and you won’t see a soul it’s normal. Edit wasn’t being creepy or noncey was actually visiting :-D

 

[clint van damme]

I was up Walsgrave with my daughter for an out patient appointment yesterday and it was as busy as usual.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I saw they let the BBC into UCL wards. I’m glad they’re relaxing Those rules.

It's all tightly controlled from the centre. I believe NHS Trusts are under a command and control from central gov, I think anything that goes out needs to be approved. Everything is about trying to reduce embarrassment for the government. I watched Chernobyl over Christmas, lots of themes in their chime with what's happening currently.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Surely heads need to roll for the whole Tier 2 thing? Somebody thought it was a good idea to let everybody do what they wanted.

It was a borderline call but like with everything covid related, it looks worse with hindsight (and probably wouldn’t have been such an issue without new variant)

London in tougher Tier 2 coronavirus restrictions when lockdown ends

London escaped the toughest Covid-19 restrictions today with cases now falling in more than two-thirds of boroughs, according to official figures.

www.google.co.uk

I’m not saying this to defend the government but more the fact that I remember thinking at the time, if Birmingham could just get down to a transmission rate of 150 per 100k we could move to T2 after national lockdown ! People were saying the same about Manchester as well (pushing for T2)

The combo of the new variant plus Xmas indoor household mixing (winter weather) has well and truly fucked us. Could certain decisions have been made a 3-4 days earlier, probably, would it have made a huge difference with all the Xmas mixing, I don’t know but doubt it.