Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (121 Viewers)
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Not surprised unfortunately Tisza. For some reason people seem to think you can suppress transmission and it stays suppressed. Only way you can currently control it, especially in winter is by locking down and staying locked down (unless you can irradiate and keep out of country - NZ), and the more you do that, the more you fuck people’s lives up in different ways. It’s a massive balancing act for everyone at the moment
Have you read the article ?
David O'Day
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It was a borderline call but like with everything covid related, it looks worse with hindsight (and probably wouldn’t have been such an issue without new variant)
London in tougher Tier 2 coronavirus restrictions when lockdown ends
London escaped the toughest Covid-19 restrictions today with cases now falling in more than two-thirds of boroughs, according to official figures.www.google.co.uk
I’m not saying this to defend the government but more the fact that I remember thinking at the time, if Birmingham could just get down to a transmission rate of 150 per 100k we could move to T2 after national lockdown ! People were saying the same about Manchester as well (pushing for T2)
The combo of the new variant plus Xmas indoor household mixing (winter weather) has well and truly fucked us. Could certain decisions have been made a 3-4 days earlier, probably, would it have made a huge difference with all the Xmas mixing, I don’t know but doubt it.
it was an awful decision at the time
if they wanted to treat the whole of london as one entity at the time the stats said london should of been in tier 3
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Quicker and harder you do it, the less time you have to do it for, however.
Yes, it'll always come back, but you have to move quickly when it's increasing and / or suppress it properly before opening up again. We fail on both, so we end up in this never-ending dripping tap effect.
It’s a good point about treating it in one lump.
Ps just to be clear, I’m not saying it was the right decision (obviously not) but that it was borderline at the time as the article indicates (even suggested they should’ve have even been in national lockdown !) and certainly nobody at the time would’ve seen that as a precursor to the issues London’s facing now
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Youd have to stay locked down during winter as most businesses can’t just switch on and off every couple of weeks and transmission is significantly increased due to indoor mixing so as soon as you relax rules it will spike massively (as Tisza has indicated)
Was also reading how the national lockdown actually caused spikes in a number of T2 areas (that had flat transmission rates at the time) as everyone went out !
ps would 100% agree about harder as in stricter for shorter periods, ensuring people followed restrictions but you’d still have the massive bounce as soon as restrictions are released....unless lockdowns been that long the numbers are tiny
Brylowes
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fernandopartridge
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Noticed this morning plenty of oldies queueing up for the vaccination centre around the corner from where I live, good to see.
Also, on a call today with some colleagues working for Trusts who are dropping off calls to have a vaccine, so positive to see it being rolled out.
Also, on a call today with some colleagues working for Trusts who are dropping off calls to have a vaccine, so positive to see it being rolled out.
shmmeee
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Isn’t it depressing how after yesterday’s events in America, today all the populists and contrarians are back to peddling nonsense, or allowing it to be peddled, to cover their own arse?
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Having failed to deliver internet and devices to all households, the government has instead reclassified the ‘vulnerable’ definition to include those without devices so they can go into school. Cheeky bastards
Tommo1993
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fernandopartridge
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They never ever can stop really, they've invariably built a career on it
fernandopartridge
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As somebody said, covid disproportionately affects the poorest, and it's built into government policy to be that way.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s just flagrant ‘yeah we couldn’t be arsed to sort this in 10 months so let the schools deal with it’
Ian1779
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Subsequently filling up the school classes that are still there up to their previous capacity.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Yep unfortunately deaths will continue rising in the short term.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Sick of them always passing the buck to someone else
hill83
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Until 2 weeks after 25th December? Actually that's tomorrow.
shmmeee
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Until around two weeks after cases start dropping I’d expect.
shmmeee
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Yeah but now we know the middle class are safe.
SBAndy
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Can’t be arsed to check, but I’m sure someone said yesterday that they thought cases would drop for a period now. Unfortunately, with the lag for admissions/ICU/deaths there’s still a way to go.
Liquid Gold
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We're on a (supposedly) proper lockdown now. That should start to bring cases and deaths down in the next few weeks. What I want to see is vaccination figures, light at the end of the tunnel. Millions a week.
fernandopartridge
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Cases is a big drop so hopefully the peak of cases has hit, early days. The deaths will continue to rise for at least 3 weeks though
clint van damme
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Well that sounds like a proper fuck up in Brum today.
No vaccines turned up but hapless Hancock did to get his jab. Come back tomorrow Matt you useless gobshite
No vaccines turned up but hapless Hancock did to get his jab. Come back tomorrow Matt you useless gobshite
fernandopartridge
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They're publishing the vaccination figures now
Liquid Gold
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Can you link me please?
Brighton Sky Blue
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No until a few weeks after the cases start dropping.
SBAndy
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Bit forward.
Liquid Gold
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I will lick the vaccine out of your arsehole if it means I can go to the pub and the football.
UKHSA data dashboard
Overall summary of the respiratory viruses in circulation within the UK
Bit of a lag. Johnson just said it’s now over 1.5m. Think it was planned to be ‘live’ daily from next week but stuck it on weekly data on site already
I hope those grumbling about the roll out are having a listen to the army guy about the size and complexity of the task.
