stupot07
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He probably won't, but to label him as the reason we shipped goals and had poor results beginning of the season is ridiculous.
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Coincidental? We know Giles struggles defensively. He struggles defensively for Shrewsbury playing on the wing. It’s not a coincidence we are far more solid with a better defender at lwb.
I don’t know where I said it’s Giles’ fault but his contribution is clear. Also I don’t believe the stats are as damning for Wilson and marosi.
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Who has done that?
cc84cov
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Can you name a game he was aT fault for any goals ? Giles was one of our best players early the reason people want sam back now is Giles had a quiet game in the league and wasn’t at his best till second half yesterday...it’s due to robins giving him 2 mins a month same as DaCosta,Sam will start on Saturday we all know that.
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Off the top of my head, the first goal of the season for a start.
Defensively he was very poor second half. Including the corner that he needlessly gave away and missed at the front post.
Brighton Sky Blue
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When he slipped for Brentford's first
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Miles out of position for Bournemouth’s second
Kilclines curly mullet
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I’m not sure it’s an attitude issue but something is not right. Im Shipleys biggest critic footballing wise, i simply don’t think he is good enough for the championship however (with the exception of Millwall) the effort doesn’t seem to be there. He doesn’t track/stick a boot in and looks tired after about 20 minutes.
Is it a confidence thing/is he reading forums/has he been ill/injured ?
cc84cov
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Did you not see him stop chasing etc yesterday ?
stevefloyd
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The bad attitude I mean is walking around not appearing to give a shit.. I am sure he probably does give a shit but his lack of effort of late infuriates me
Philosoraptor
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I did something similar but just with games in the Championship weighted against the strength of the opponents.
Definitely not a measure of ability, but it is showing other stuff. I'll let you lot figure it out.
Grendel
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You really are an idiot
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stupot07
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Just looking at the table you can see that Marosi has played more games against top half opposition and top 6 in particular than Wilson (and therefore Giles starts at LWB).
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PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Should be Shipley dropped for Bapaga
Sky Blue Harry H
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Yes, I don't think he closes down quick enough, but that's different to having a bad attitude. I want Giles to attack the defender more at times; when he doesn't do it. I get frustrated - but it is not because he has a bad attitude. If I'm honest my biggest frustration with Shippers is when he does get close to his opponent, instead of getting a foot in, he frequently raises his hands and gives away a free kick for pulling them by their shirt or arm. An example of which was when he stopped Hanley from running the ball out of play on the goal line. He got his foot to the ball to keep it in play, then grabbed him by the neck, immediately losing the advantage he had just gained. It's a serious weakness in his game, that I wish someone could iron out, but he does not have a bad attitude (although if somebody described it as weak, I'd argue less on his behalf).
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Its not Giles fault maybe a few yeah but not all of them
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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I did midfielders as well
Can you explain how this works please as I am very confused
Philosoraptor
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I also did defenders.
Not a measure of ability but the result of the game which a player was involved with, in the Championship, weighted against opponents' team strength.
Grendel
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the end result shows it doesn’t - I hope (assume) it’s a joke
Nick
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That Hanley thing was embarrassing, he fouled him to try and show he was trying
cc84cov
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He made more effort to help him up than win the ball
Philosoraptor
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Might as well do the whole lot.
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Philosoraptor
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
The thread with my own and others' meanderings on this is here.
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The thread with my own and others' meanderings on this is here.
Football Question
As most of you are probably aware by now, my football knowledge is pretty much non-existent. Therefore, I need to throw out stuff on here to get answers to questions. My question involves Appearances. When does a player actually get recognized for their Appearances. Is it when they are in the...
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Paxman II
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Being so antagonistic grendel certainly suits you. It's what you do best. But the idiot here is you. If you can't debate someones opinion you resort to insult. A true keyboard warrior. I think it's well past your bedtime.
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Paxman II
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Arhh there he is with a predictable come back. I stand by what I say Grendel and rarely very wrong tbf. I think a fit Hislner will challenge O'Hare for his place. Nothing wrong with that and it's about opinion. Perhaps instead of attacking everyone (which is the only consistent thing you are capable of) try debating why you disagree? You might actually like it if you try once in a while. Anyway, goodnight it's now way past that bedtime for you. Just make sure you get out thr right side of it tomorrow eh?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Main point of consideration for me at the moment is Giles or mcCallum? Wed are the type of team you'd think we should look to attack, but Giles does look more susceptible at the back so should we accept Sam's defensive qualities as more important, esp with Godden and walker out?
Camp, Giles, Dacosta, Eccles, Allen Shipley Bapaga, Baka + one of Pask/Jobello/Hilssner/kasta depending on fitness
Wilson
Osti Fadz Hyam
Dabo James Sheaf Sam
O'hare Hamer
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Osti Fadz Hyam
Dabo James Sheaf Sam
O'hare Hamer
Max
Camp, Giles, Dacosta, Eccles, Allen Shipley Bapaga, Baka + one of Pask/Jobello/Hilssner/kasta depending on fitness
Sky Blue Harry H
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Wiaiting to appoint a new manager, Windass injured, couple of Cov-id hit players - they'll be doing everything to get this game called off imo.
johnwillomagic
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Doubt they'll be allowed to unless more test positive don't you have to play fixture if you have 14 fit players I read somewhere?
Or us that just FA cup competition.
I think teams won't want fixtures backlog given congested fixture list so will try to play games even if weakened a little rather than call a game off personally.
Or us that just FA cup competition.
I think teams won't want fixtures backlog given congested fixture list so will try to play games even if weakened a little rather than call a game off personally.
SkyBlueCharlie9
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I think teams in form will want to play even with 1 or 2 out . Teams struggling for form with 1 or 2 out are laying it on a bit thick. Clubs have done this for years with dealing with winter weather. FA need to get a grip on consistency over when games can be called off on Covid grounds as it's open to abuse.
AFCCOVENTRY
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Wednesday could struggle to put a team out at the weekend.
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COVID-hit Sheffield Wednesday face anxious wait ahead of Coventry City clash
Sheffield Wednesday were short of a number of senior players over the weekend after a COVID-19 outbreak at the club, but managed to get the job done against Exeter City.
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Londonccfcfan
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Paul Cook looks odds on to take the hot seat there. Would be a good manager for them. Could be announced any day soon. Hoping its after Saturday.
Frostie
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Should have been who they went for last time around, Pulis was a mad gamble.