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CCFCSteve

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4000 cases off 1.6m tests which is really good. After the plateau they might be sneaking a little lower (fingers crossed). Hospital admissions down from 379 last Tuesday to 289. Vaccines around 400k in total
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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4000 cases off 1.6m tests which is really good. After the plateau they might be sneaking a little lower (fingers crossed). Hospital admissions down from 379 last Tuesday to 289. Vaccines around 400k in total

With schools closing for a few weeks to be honest there’s a good chance of it dropping further still.
 

wingy

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Stoneleigh is nationally arranged, GPs locally apparently. My parents got a phone call from their GP offering them a vaccine, the evening they'd just come back from Stoneleigh!

Stoneleigh are also booking second appointments there and then, unlike the GPs it seems.
Snap!
Regards personally.
Still getting messages now Lol , even though I've responded.Yes mine is the 24th May from memory.
 

wingy

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4000 cases off 1.6m tests which is really good. After the plateau they might be sneaking a little lower (fingers crossed). Hospital admissions down from 379 last Tuesday to 289. Vaccines around 400k in total
Makes me think herd immunity is achievable ultimately.

Oops responded to the wrong post but guess you get my drift.
 

wingy

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4000 cases off 1.6m tests which is really good. After the plateau they might be sneaking a little lower (fingers crossed). Hospital admissions down from 379 last Tuesday to 289. Vaccines around 400k in total
I think this is extremely close to the totals around late August/early September had the testing been as rigourous .
Could be argued close enough and low enough to track and trace into submission
 

fernandopartridge

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This really is madness. Are Spain's government in the same denial as everywhere else about where transmission occurs?

Spain to require people to wear face masks at all times outdoors
Stephen Burgen
A new law announced today makes mask wearing outdoors, including on beaches and at swimming pools, obligatory throughout Spain, even in situations where social distancing is not an issue.
The regulation, which has been in force in Catalonia since last July, is now being extended to the entire country.
The announcement has provoked a rash of comments on social media, with many complaining that the decision has less to do with science – which suggests there is little risk of the virus spreading in open spaces – than with the government wishing to show it is taking action to control the pandemic.
“They’re doing this to make it look like they’re doing something even though it makes no sense,” one woman Tweeted. “Fighting with penitence instead of science,” commented another.
Masks may only be removed for eating, drinking and smoking, creating the absurd situation of people queuing for an outside table at a bar with their masks on, then removing them as soon as they are seated.
As Easter approaches, health authorities are warning that infection levels are dangerously close to tipping Spain into a fourth wave. The country has already recorded around 3.2 million cases and over 75,000 deaths. Over the past 14 days Spain has recorded 138,68 cases per 100,000 inhabitants.
The vaccination program continues to run at a snail’s pace. In Catalonia, barely a third of the over-80s have been vaccinated.
A total of 4.5 million doses have been administered, covering around 10 per cent of the population, but barely 5 per cent have received a second dose
 

Sick Boy

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This really is madness. Are Spain's government in the same denial as everywhere else about where transmission occurs?
It was the same here up until recently but it was possible to sit inside a bar without a mask on and have a few beers (up until 18:00) - made no sense whatsoever.
 

fernandopartridge

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I've not looked at other countries' data for a while, didn't realise how bad it was in some of the rest of Europe now (sorted by numbers of current critical cases):

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CCFCSteve

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It was the same here up until recently but it was possible to sit inside a bar without a mask on and have a few beers (up until 18:00) - made no sense whatsoever.

I think sturgeons trying to beat that, I think fron 26 April you can go into a bar until 8pm, but only buy soft drinks ...but outdoors you can drink until 10pm🤷‍♂️
 

Sick Boy

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I've not looked at other countries' data for a while, didn't realise how bad it was in some of the rest of Europe now (sorted by numbers of current critical cases):

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The dominant strain here now is the English/Kent variant and has been for a while, unfortunately it's only have the last couple of weeks than anything resembling a lockdown has been put in place across most places - even now though the only difference is that barbers have been shut a couple of weeks and bars can only do takeway.
 

chiefdave

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This really is madness. Are Spain's government in the same denial as everywhere else about where transmission occurs?
Was just reading an interview with the MD of county cricket at the ECB, Neil Snowball which suggests wearing a mask as a likely condition of entry to the cricket over the summer.
We'll do whatever we're asked to do to make sure we can get the maximum number of people back. The ideal combination would be some kind of certification, with some kind of social distancing and probably wearing masks and we'll do that to get as many people in as possible.
 

fernandopartridge

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Matt Hancock in stupid statement shock. Why on earth would you say there is an exclusivity clause in a contract when there isn't? All he had to do was say that AZ has certain obligations in its UK contract but the impact of those on any other contracts AZ entered into is a question for the supplier.

EU says AstraZeneca under no UK obligation that would prevent EU vaccine supply
Reuters reports:
AstraZeneca has told the European Union that it has no legal obligations to Britain or other buyers that would prevent the full supply of Covid-19 doses under its contract with the EU, a European Commission spokeswoman said on Tuesday.
Her comments at a news conference contradict statements made by British health minister Matt Hancock, who has repeatedly said the Anglo-Swedish firm has an exclusive deal with Britain that would justify prioritisation of supplies to the United Kingdom.
“AstraZeneca confirmed to us not being under any obligation to other parties that would impede to complete the fulfilment of its obligations” to the EU, the Commission spokeswoman said when asked about Hancock’s statements.
Her statement repeated the main points of article 13.1 of the EU contract with AstraZeneca under which the company agreed not to have any contractual obligations that would limit its ability to meet EU commitments. AstraZeneca did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
The EU has launched talks with AstraZeneca under a dispute resolution mechanism included in its contract after the company said it would aim to deliver only 100 million doses by the end of June, instead of 300 million committed to in the EU contract.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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I see the Irish have now allowed those who have completed their double vaccination to meet up indoors.........talk about divisive.
 

wingy

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I see the Irish have now allowed those who have completed their double vaccination to meet up indoors.........talk about divisive.
Just an observation but a kind of reversal of furtunes from the outset , although I think that was assumed/mentality ,rather than a dictat

Edit:- not forgetting it would probably be devisive either way dependant on which were the priority groups for jabs .
 
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wingy

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I thought shielders had been told way back to release themselves,big thing today about them being set free
Probably missed some announcement somewhere or simply forgotten / befuddled .
 

wingy

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What about the Pfizer jab? *googles phizer or pfizer*

Seriously good news.
Do you know I ran it two or three times hoping auto would kick in alas , what's worse I've worked on their stand's at numerous exhibitions .🥺

And the first thing the beeb bring up after mentioning AZ are conducting similar trials is the ethical question around children who are not adversely affected by the disease.
I swear it's as if there is some level of desire for this situation to persist at some level,this cohort would be a significant tranche of society capable of meeting herd immunity.
Appreciate the biggest problem may be persuading the parents.
 

chiefdave

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And the first thing the beeb bring up after mentioning AZ are conducting similar trials is the ethical question around children who are not adversely affected by the disease.
Was reading about the famed herd immunity and one of the biggest barrier to achieving it is not being able to vaccinate enough people due to the groups who have to be excluded for some reason (those being treated for other things, age restrictions, pregnant etc). If we can open up another group who can be vaccinated then we're a step closer to going back to 'normal'.

The other thing that was mentioned was that herd immunity relies on the vaccinated not only protecting themselves but no longer being infectious, some early real world data showing some positive results in that direction as well.
 

SBT

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Sounds like France going back into a hard lockdown after months of trying to avoid it. Just incredible what's happening in Europe right now compared to here.
 

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