Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (37 Viewers)

[wingy]

Yeah just fag packet maths, but I think people forget small percentages of very large numbers are still large numbers.

It's a bit like the chat I was having with David last Autumn.
With testing what would the number of cases likely be at Wembley due to the less than 100% reliability of the test.
Think he was saying around 3000. ,equating to the shortcomings of the test .
But I couldn't see it being that due to the prevailing levels at that time in the community ,rather than assuming it would be 100% of those who'd had a rogue result.

 

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[David O'Day]

It's a bit like the chat I was having with David last Autumn.
With testing what would the number of cases likely be at Wembley due to the less than 100% reliability of the test.
Think he was saying around 3000. ,equating to the shortcomings of the test .
But I couldn't see it being that due to the prevailing levels at that time in the community ,rather than assuming it would be 100% of those who'd had a rogue result.

that was the % of possible false negatives and positives even if something is 97% accurate there is the potential for 30 false results per 1000. This means that if you test a Wembley sized crowd with the with the machine you mentioned there could be 2700 false results.

 

[clint van damme]

Good numbers coming back from recent sporting events and the raves in.Liverpool.
Very few cases, though of course everyone took tests prior to entry.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I don't have a problem with the local lockdowns being based on guidance, not really sure what the fuss is about.
Lockdown #1 showed that the public took guidance as being equal to law, e.g. the limitation on outdoor exercise which didn't exist in law but did in the guidance

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I don't have a problem with the local lockdowns being based on guidance, not really sure what the fuss is about.
Lockdown #1 showed that the public took guidance as being equal to law, e.g. the limitation on outdoor exercise which didn't exist in law but did in the guidance

I agree it’s the inability to take ownership for it. Government should have said different rules apply in these areas for the reasons they need to be rather than do it on the sly. It’s as if they don’t want to be accountable and are placing the responsibility on individuals in those areas

 

[Sick Boy]

Some of the stuff Cummings is coming out with is extraordinary.

 

[PVA]

Some of the stuff Cummings is coming out are extraordinary.

It's incredible. I was posting it in the politics thread but it's just as relevant for here.

The incompetence is/was staggering. Worse than we could have imagined.

 

[Grendel]

Some of the stuff Cummings is coming out are extraordinary.

He's a lunatic trying to dissolve himself of culpability - he's like a scorned woman after a divorce - he's chip paper by the end of the day

 

[Skybluefaz]

He's a lunatic trying to dissolve himself of culpability - he's like a scorned woman after a divorce - he's chip paper by the end of the day

He's admitted he's at fault.

 

[Sick Boy]

He's a lunatic trying to dissolve himself of culpability - he's like a scorned woman after a divorce - he's chip paper by the end of the day

He’s as bad the rest of them, I agree.

 

[David O'Day]

He's admitted he's at fault.

Not like Grenners to not have actually seen or have any knowledge of have he is talking about,

Cummings even said it was madness he was even allowed to be at the heart of government.

 

[chiefdave]

Some of the stuff Cummings is coming out are extraordinary.

CONS + 3

I joke but a lot of what he is saying was already known and has been ignored so not sure its really going to have much impact.

 

[Cityandproud87]

Not like Grenners to not have actually seen or have any knowledge of have he is talking about,

Good one that is O'Drivel. You can't even string a sentence that makes sense together.

 

[PVA]

 

[PVA]

 

[Deleted member 11652]

Not like Grenners to not have actually seen or have any knowledge of have he is talking about,

Cummings even said it was madness he was even allowed to be at the heart of government.

Just ran this through google translate and even that is baffled? Been on the booze down the 4 p’s this morning?

 

[jordan210]

 

[Cityandproud87]

Just ran this through google translate and even that is baffled? Been on the booze down the 4 p’s this morning?

4 P's? More like Impulse.

 

[Sick Boy]

Being injected with it live on TV is something is Trumpesque.

 

[PVA]

Being injected with it live on TV is something is Trumpesque.

It really is.

He did the next best thing though and went around shaking everyone's hand and boasted about it. Silly twat.

 

[fernandopartridge]

He's a lunatic trying to dissolve himself of culpability - he's like a scorned woman after a divorce - he's chip paper by the end of the day

He's apologised for his own mistakes, he is not a government minister. I said this last year that it was convenient for the govt either way that he was around.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It presumed that people would not be willing to stay at home in order to prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths. Or even to protect themselves. It's incredible to me that this was treated as consensus.

But apparently it's Labour that think the public are idiots. When will people learn the opinion the Tories have of them is far, far worse. They're just as careful as possible to not say it in public.

 

[It’sabatch87]

Funny how Cummings was a c-unit last year to some on here now he’s their best mate now and believe his every word.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Funny how Cummings was a c-unit last year now he’s to some on here their best mate now and believe his every word.

Also how he's a massive c**t now but over Brexit he was the messiah. Funny hey.

 

[PVA]

Funny how Cummings was a c-unit last year now he’s to some on here their best mate now and believe his every word.

Also funny how he was a legend last year to some and now the same people think he's a lying twat.

He was a c**t then and he's a c**t now.

BUT, he is at least admitting blame and fault, unlike Johnson & Hancock.

Also whilst he is probably still telling some lies he has evidence of some of the stuff he's saying.

 

[Sick Boy]

Funny how Cummings was a c-unit last year to some on here now he’s their best mate now and believe his every word.

And those in government will try and discredit him after backing him up about his eyesight nonsense and some will lap it up….

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Funny how Cummings was a c-unit last year to some on here now he’s their best mate now and believe his every word.

Oh, I don't. I'm very sceptical about the whole 'inject me with coronavirus' crap and I'm sure a lot of this is Cartman-esque in rewriting the story in his own head.

But the fact that he can say this stuff and for people to think "yeah, that might be true' is damning enough in itself. If there was any kind of competence at all everyone's immediate reaction would be "bullshit!" to what he's saying.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

And those in government will try and discredit him after backing him up about his eyesight nonsense and some will lap it up….

Wonder how long it'll be before someone lets slip that his story for making that trip was bollocks

 

[shmmeee]

He's a lunatic trying to dissolve himself of culpability - he's like a scorned woman after a divorce - he's chip paper by the end of the day

 

[shmmeee]

Oh, I don't. I'm very sceptical about the whole 'inject me with coronavirus' crap and I'm sure a lot of this is Cartman-esque in rewriting the story in his own head.

But the fact that he can say this stuff and for people to think "yeah, that might be true' is damning enough in itself. If there was any kind of competence at all everyone's immediate reaction would be "bullshit!" to what he's saying.

A lot of it is backed by evidence and what we already knew anyway. Maybe not the “and then everyone clapped because Dom is awesome” stuff, but the general thrust.

 

[Cityandproud87]

Funny how Cummings was a c-unit last year to some on here now he’s their best mate now and believe his every word.

Typical expected behavior from some on this thread.

 

[PVA]

Everyone was saying this at the time and plenty were dismissing it...

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Lying is ok

 

[oakey]

Funny how Cummings was a c-unit last year to some on here now he’s their best mate now and believe his every word.

That's not even remotely true. He remains a dangerous man who, as he admits himself, should have been nowhere near power. He is the architect of Brexit so if you trash him you are admitting Brexit was built by a maverick.
It all demonstrates what we've known all along that we are led by donkeys.
Nobody who knew he was in the wrong last year has changed their minds about him. What he says is only to be believed if
1) the evidence we know about (or emerges in time) supports his account.
2) the counter points made by Boris fans fall apart.

What is obvious to me is that some people are so tied to being right about Brexit and Johnson that they will ignore the truth that we have a shambolic government.
Incidentally he made two points that, to me, were beyond dispute
- he called it crackers that people like him and Johnson were anywhere near power
- he said the system that gave us a choice between two disastrous leaders, Johnson and Corbyn, was catastrophic.

 

[Sick Boy]

Wonder how long it'll be before someone lets slip that his story for making that trip was bollocks

They’re all as bad as each other - I wonder if Dom will mention Gove at all?