Derby points deduction (11 Viewers)

[Liquid Gold]

Still breathing down Forest's neck

 

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[Mild-Mannered Janitor]

Not pleasant for the fans, I know the club is big enough that a buyer should come forward but it’s no guarantee as we have seen and the club could cease to exist if no purchaser can agree with the administrators.
it’s going to be very messy, especially with the ground situation like many not being part of the trading football club, agreeing with creditors

 

[SkyblueDad]

What happens to the players ? Do their contracts stay as they are or are they free agents and can find new clubs outside the transfer window.

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

Not pleasant for the fans, I know the club is big enough that a buyer should come forward but it’s no guarantee as we have seen and the club could cease to exist if no purchaser can agree with the administrators.
it’s going to be very messy, especially with the ground situation like many not being part of the trading football club, agreeing with creditors

Exactly.... and the administrator has to try and keep the club running at a time when Derby can’t sell any players to fund running costs

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

What happens to the players ? Do their contracts stay as they are or are they free agents and can find new clubs outside the transfer window.

They stay as they are, there’s no reason for them to become free agents.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

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[oldskyblue58]

Just a thought but when CCFC went in to administration the outstanding accounts were never filed, the football club became another company, and the original companies liquidated. Meaning no one outside a small closed group ever knew what really went on.

Any bets on the revised Derby County accounts ever being filed ?

Would a transfer to a new company and owners remove the threat of a further points deduction

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They stay as they are, there’s no reason for them to become free agents.

They may have to accept less in wages

 

[robbiethemole]

Hopefully the other -9 points will also be applied, they have cheated and should take the consequences, as it stands they could well avoid relegation.

 

[SkyblueDad]

Hopefully the other -9 points will also be applied, they have cheated and should take the consequences, as it stands they could well avoid relegation.

Think it will it’s two separate offences 12 points for going into administration I believe is a minimum.

 

[CovBrummie94]

A potential buyer is going to need a lot of cash up front.


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[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

We should have a look at Sibley and Bielik

 

[Deleted member 2477]

Another club fucked up by Americans who think they can play with football

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Another sad tale of a decent, mid-sized club, spending above their means and it absolutely shafting them further down the line. You have to question the appointments of Cocu, Lampard and Rooney. They won't have been cheap. I guess it's the 'gamble and hope it pays off' strategy.

Although our finances really aren't great, I sometimes wonder if all we've been through the last 10 or so years has put us in a better position and before all you clever clogs come in and say we're the same position with more debt, I doubt we'd get to Derby levels of stupidity of the last couple of seasons.

Running the club the way we have, coupled with the 'luck' of coming across a generational manager has probably staved off any Derby-style scenarios for us. Am I wrong on that?!

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Another club fucked up by Americans who think they can play with football

The owner is Mel Morris, a Derbyshire businessman?

 

[skybluesam66]

Wasnt our 2nd points deduction for not coming out of admin properly - is this something that could happen to Derby if they did not satisfy the football creditors etc

 

[Frostie]

Another sad tale of a decent, mid-sized club, spending above their means and it absolutely shafting them further down the line. You have to question the appointments of Cocu, Lampard and Rooney. They won't have been cheap. I guess it's the 'gamble and hope it pays off' strategy.

Indeed. And, not to justify it in anyway, but since the concept of FFP was brought in only 2 clubs have been promoted to the Premier League without failing it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Indeed. And, not to justify it in anyway, but since the concept of FFP was brought in only 2 clubs have been promoted to the Premier League without failing it.

Not many clubs got a gambling company to pay someone 80 grand a week.

 

[Mild-Mannered Janitor]

The administrator will aim to do a deal with all those creditors to take a settlement of x pence in the pound and possible staged payments to make it salvageable, typically, the IR doesn't like to agree too much of a discount on what's owed but every case is different and depends on exactly who those creditors are.

 

[Winny the Bish]

Set for a fire sale in January to help raise funds to pay off creditors.

Cheeky £1m bid for Lee Buchanan anyone? Would be a great solution to the LWB issue.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Set for a fire sale in January to help raise funds to pay off creditors.

Cheeky £1m bid for Lee Buchanan anyone? Would be a great solution to the LWB issue.

We don't have much to spend ourselves but yes any of these would be handy:

Buchanan
Bielik
Sibley
Bird
Lawrence
Jozwiak

 

[Winny the Bish]

We don't have much to spend ourselves but yes any of these would be handy:

Buchanan
Bielik
Sibley
Bird
Lawrence
Jozwiak

Bielik’s done his ACL three times now I believe. Cracking player but too risky for me.

 

[lordy_87]

"Don't punish the fans" is bollocks, any meaningful punishment to a club is of course going to hurt fans.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Bielik’s done his ACL three times now I believe. Cracking player but too risky for me.

I thought he was close to a return. We're talking hypotheticals anyway, even at £1 million they're out of our range

 

[Danceswithhorses]

Not many clubs got a gambling company to pay someone 80 grand a week.

Poor Wayne has to work though, to pay off his mouthy wife's legal bills

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Poor Wayne has to work though, to pay off his mouthy wife's legal bills

He'll be on Celebrity Masterchef within 5 years

 

[Calista]

Just a thought but when CCFC went in to administration the outstanding accounts were never filed, the football club became another company, and the original companies liquidated. Meaning no one outside a small closed group ever knew what really went on.

Any bets on the revised Derby County accounts ever being filed ?

Would a transfer to a new company and owners remove the threat of a further points deduction

You mean Derby County FC might turn out to be just a non-trading property subsidiary? I guess their fans may soon have the pleasure of going on a treasure hunt for the Golden Share. Almost makes me feel nostalgic for those days.

 

[Frostie]

Set for a fire sale in January to help raise funds to pay off creditors.

Cheeky £1m bid for Lee Buchanan anyone? Would be a great solution to the LWB issue.

They turned down £2m for Buchanan in the summer (admittedly from their arch rivals Forest) which given their circumstances looks crazy.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

We do need to be careful the efl have allowed us a lot of wriggle room

 

[skybluesam66]

however imagine we are top 2 or 3 come january , there will be those asking for say £

We do need to be careful the efl have allowed us a lot of wriggle room

has any club ever had 3 points deductions ?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

however imagine we are top 2 or 3 come january , there will be those asking for say £

has any club ever had 3 points deductions ?

Did Portsmouth have one in each of the top 3 divisions?

 

[better days]

Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked.

Warren Buffett

 

[SkyblueDad]

however imagine we are top 2 or 3 come january , there will be those asking for say £

has any club ever had 3 points deductions ?

Middlesbrough which saved us from relegation and they went down

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

however imagine we are top 2 or 3 come january , there will be those asking for say £

has any club ever had 3 points deductions ?

I was just meaning it could have gone worse for us if efl had said to a ground share

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I was just meaning it could have gone worse for us if efl had said to a ground share

They allowed it when it was completely voluntary to leave, they couldn't say no when it was out of our hands.