skybluetony176
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It’s too little too late anyway. This problem has been coming all year and the experts were trying to warn the government all year but it fell on death ears.
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David O'Day
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Seen a few interviews with european HGV drivers and they really aren't interested
Tommo1993
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Who can blame them?
David O'Day
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Not me, also saw another interview with a UK driver who prefers to work in Europe as better conditions etc.
Yeah, there’s an estimated shortage of 400k+ drivers across Europe. I’d imagine premiums are being paid everywhere so they can pick and choose where they want to work as salaries will be good everywhere
skybluetony176
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Looks like the NI Unionist parties have just signed their own death warrant. They’ve all just made a joint statement saying that they all oppose the NI protocol. It’s either that, a return of the backstop or a united Ireland. They don’t seem to have any suggestions for anything else.
Sick Boy
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I’m sure some of them would welcome a hard border - wankers.
skybluetony176
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I think they’ve seriously misread the room and are banking on a return of a hard border. I don’t believe personally that there’s a wholesale appetite in the Protestant community for a return to a hard border. Especially true of border communities where large numbers work in the south or work in businesses that rely on free movement of goods in both directions.
Fact is in 1998 NI had a referendum on the GFA and overwhelmingly (71%) voted in favour of the GFA. The IRA ceasefire agreed with John Major that led to the GFA happened 4 years prior so there’s people approaching 30 who have only ever known living in peace. They don’t care what some bitter old men think, they want continuing peace and prosperity and the Unionist parties are saying the opposite.
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skybluetony176
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So what about the staff shortages in the wider haulage industry, care home industry, farming industry, meat processing industry, service industry etc etc etc. You clearly think you’re being clever by being stupid.
Nick
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Hardly being stupid. When you are so blinding by politics / brexit then any logic goes out of the window.
skybluetony176
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Blinded by politics/brexit would be to deny neither have anything to do with the labour shortage in many many industries.
Nick
Administrator
Who has said that? I have just been on about the petrol "crisis".
That's the issue, when somebody mentions to a "Brexiteer" or "Remainer" they instantly make assumptions.
Furlough ends tomorrow, will be interesting to see how many people are going out into the big wide world to look for jobs.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But the problem that was highlighted (and caused people to be stupid and panic buy) is getting the fuel deliveries to the petrol station due to a lack of drivers. There are some problems in Europe, so part of it can be attributed to the pandemic creating a backlog of testing and certification. However, our shortage seems to be much bigger than elsewhere and is being flagged as an issue across many other industries such as food deliveries, so other factors must be at play as well. We've got fewer drivers after we decided to alienate the immigrant workforce. So brexit has to be considered partly to blame.
Nick
Administrator
Yeah the issue was to a very small amount of petrol stations.
You whip people up to panic and it multiplies.
I have never said Brexit isn't to blame for anything, I am just pointing out that there's a strange obsession where people just want to shout Brexit about everything and anything in every thread.
skybluetony176
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It’s massively bigger than elsewhere and the fact is that the one part of the UK we left in the single market (Northern Ireland) isn’t having the same issues the rest of the UK is having.
Even the backlog at the DVLA has been exacerbated by the Tories, they defunded the DVLA, they closed 32 DVLA offices. Non of that helped and this was an issue long before Covid and long before brexit and like brexit that was a political choice.
skybluetony176
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You’ll note that the people all over the brexit threads telling remainers that they are wrong aren’t all over them gloating about the benefits. And before someone suggests that maybe leavers have more humility than to gloat I’m going to call bollocks on that in advance. You’re talking about a group of people who have spent four years gloating ha ha we won you lost get over it.
Nick
Administrator
You are telling the wrong person.
As I said, assumptions being made. Nice aimless rant though.
It's just another thing for people to pick a side on and then run with it for years.
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Yes
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
How am I telling the wrong person? The only reason we’re having this conversation this morning is because you decided to bring it up in the first place and deliberately decided to name check me into your post. If you don’t want to talk to me about you could go a long way to stop that by leaving me out of it when you choose to comment on the subject.
Nick
Administrator
Because you are blinded by it. I am surprised you can get dressed in the morning without blaming Brexit for something.
Relax.
Nick
Administrator
I guess the garages are now having to play catch up so will probably be a couple of weeks before it's back to normal.
Next thing will be people fighting over Turkeys in Tesco.
Sbarcher
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Best get the nut roast ordered early then.
Nick
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Breaking News! I got some diesel!
Not telling all you buggers where, mind you, it's my secret, and all of Sainsbury's
Not telling all you buggers where, mind you, it's my secret, and all of Sainsbury's
clint van damme
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Inevitable
Shortage of Christmas turkeys is inevitable, warns poultry farmer
A leading Norfolk poultry farmer warned there will "definitely" be a shortage of turkeys this Christmas, as government efforts to resolve…
Sky Blue Pete
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Tories plus 100,000,000,000
Nick
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Inevitable
Shortage of Christmas turkeys is inevitable, warns poultry farmer
A leading Norfolk poultry farmer warned there will "definitely" be a shortage of turkeys this Christmas, as government efforts to resolve…www.edp24.co.uk
It's simple, stop giving people as much of a choice not to work any more and claim benefits or that they have a poorly shoulder.
If there are jobs out there like the Turkey Farm that provides a minimum / living wage and somebody on benefits turns it down. Their benefits should be stopped.
Again with Furlough ending, would think there are going to be tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of people looking for jobs soon.
Personally don't see the fuss, if there aren't many Turkeys about just have an alternative.
clint van damme
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I heard someone from the industry on the radio, said these aren't minimum wage jobs, in some cases considerably higher
Nick
Administrator
Even better.
A fix for unemployed people if there are empty jobs there. It isn't like a Tanker Driver where you need multiple tests etc.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Thats exactly what happens if you turn down a job on benefits.
Unemployment rates are still at historic lows even with the recent rise. 5%.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
It's what happens now, stop getting whipped up by the media so easily.
Nick
Administrator
Not whipped up by the media at all.
More by seeing somebody work in recruitment trying to get people into jobs along the lines of the Turkey ones with people out of work turning them down. Yeah there are the sanctions with reduced benefits where housing is still paid.
There is also the "my back is sore so I can't work" also, go in Wetherspoons on a weekday to see some examples.