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Shame those issues are never currant.
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Shame those issues are never currant.
David O'Day
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Good at currant affairs though
chiefdave
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To be fair she is very visible in the community. I don't think I saw Cunningham once, or any previous MP in other places I've lived for that matter, yet Sultana has knocked on more door several times to see if there's any issues I want to bring up.
My Mum is a life long Conservative voter and thinks Sultana is the best MP she's ever had so just goes to show these things are never straightforward.
shmmeee
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Found her very standoffish and cliquey when she came to a CLP meeting o was at. And generally don’t like her tone in Parliament, all a bit performative, but she’s toned it down from her first few months. Still a fucking Liverpool fan born in Brum and representing Cov though. Can’t get past that.
David O'Day
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Yeah you only ever really saw Cunningham at election time but he was fucking brilliant on the doorstep though
fernandopartridge
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Maybe voters don't really care about tone and parliamentary language
David O'Day
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I'd be pleasantly surprised if most normal voters even see must speeches in parliament
shmmeee
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They probably don’t. And what I think doesn’t matter as I’m not in her constituency any more. But I got the impression when I was she wasn’t particularly popular.
David O'Day
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Not really that good as it ignores the effect the change of leadership will have on the 2019 tory vote.
I'm sorry but I just can't see Sunak or Truss etc. having the same pull for former labour voters in the northern "redwall" seats
Brighton Sky Blue
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Has the perception of Labour in these areas changed enough from being the party of students and cosmopolitan London?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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That's my take on it. huge Tory majority in government so doesn't matter and they can show a bit of dissatisfaction. next GE it will go back to the Tories.
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Sunak is local to the area around many of those seats, mind. Granted, his has been as safe Tory as it's possible to be, but still.
Don't discount the ability of the Conservative Party to reinvent themselves either, the new leader bounce, and the perception of renewed competence could be worth a fair amount.
David O'Day
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Yeah but there is a massive difference between Richmond and Bishop Auckland.
I don't see anyway that a more "traditional tory" tory party has the same appeal in Blyth as Johnson
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Can be offset by renewed confidence in them in the south, however, and picking up a couple of Scottish seats from disenfranchised SNP haters. It may very well not be as large a majority as now, but it would be seismic for them to lose their majority in entirety.
Wonder if there are any parties still ready and willing to support them in a coalition...?
fernandopartridge
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Maybe but the duck has been broken with these people now. You must have seen that interview with people in Hartlepool who were voting Tory because they blamed Labour for the local police station and A&E being cut. How do you deal with that?
David O'Day
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Yes but they are the idiot outliers.
Most people aren't like that but aren't a great story.
David O'Day
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Can be which why the anyone but tory tactical voting would be important as there are also a lot of tory lib dem marginals in the south.
No one should be crownig Labour now but there are now for the first time green shoots and a path now
skybluetony176
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Being reported that the man Boris has put in charge of investigating last year’s Xmas party hosted an Xmas party himself in his office.
In other news Boris thinks that they lost the by election because the press are reporting on everything they do not just the things Boris wants them to report.
In other news Boris thinks that they lost the by election because the press are reporting on everything they do not just the things Boris wants them to report.
skybluetony176
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QT was interesting last night. The Tory representative was getting dogs of abuse from the Stoke on Trent audience, especially when he started talking about the “levelling up” funds being made to the area and suggesting that their 3 new Tory MP’s are doing a terrific job for them. Lisa Nandy in contrast got a good response to pretty much everything she said, especially when slating the Tories. If QT was anything to go by Stoke has buyers remorse at electing Tory MP’s.
clint van damme
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Not a million miles away from what I predicted!
skybluetony176
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One guy in the audience who claimed to not be a labour voter had him good on levelling up. I think Stoke has £54M or there abouts in levelling up fund, he pointed out that cross rail has a budget of £19B and challenged him to throw those sort of budgets at areas like Stoke and see how much they can achieve. Transport and connectivity in the region (apparently Stoke on Trent is 3 separate towns) seems to be a hot topic in Stoke and all the Tory could muster was the re-opening of a leisure centre that had closed under Tory austerity cuts as levelling up.
David O'Day
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Nandy was a great move to her new role. Yes it is technically a demotion my she is ina role where she will be much more visible to the people Labour need to win back.
skybluetony176
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David O'Day
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He's fucked now and he knows it. Proper spoilt kid at xmas vibes at the end from him.
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I don't mean to sound overly patronising (or maybe I do!) but... should we be worried about his health?!?
He's never been overly dapper but, my word.
He's never been overly dapper but, my word.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He’s trying to look more like a clown to distract people. Will turn into Pennywise by NYE
skybluetony176
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It’s a distraction. The more atrocious he behaves the worse he has to look to distract from the bad news.
Ccfcisparks
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CON -4%
skybluetony176
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How he looks is the least of our worries. It's what he does or fails to do that the problem.
David O'Day
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