Do you want to discuss boring politics? (49 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Every thread. I just don’t think you are able to debate one topic. It’s a flaw

lol you don’t want a debate you want a bunch of idiots echoing your prejudice

 

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[skybluetony176]

lol you don’t want a debate you want a bunch of idiots echoing your prejudice

Aaaww. Someone is feeling left out because he’s only got ADM and Booch’s later incarnation to echo his prejudices. Poor gwendull.

 

[Grendel]

As I said, korma and milk. At least at trade union meetings we start with a balti

the fact is politics is a very silly game now.

In the days of Kinnock vs thatcher or major there was a purpose. Now it’s just a game.

Blair / Cameron / clegg are just politicians and could be in any party

Let’s be honest. Gordon brown was the last leader of any party who actually had any integrity - well you could also say May I guess

look what happened to them

oh and Corbyn of course

 

[PVA]

"vote for the PM to draw a line under Partygate"

Not sure you've thought that one through lads.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

the fact is politics is a very silly game now.

In the days of Kinnock vs thatcher or major there was a purpose. Now it’s just a game.

Blair / Cameron / clegg are just politicians and could be in any party

Let’s be honest. Gordon brown was the last leader of any party who actually had any integrity - well you could also say May I guess

look what happened to them

I'd disagree with Blair - he was Labour, if pragmatic Labour.

Kinnock possibly the best speaker i've heard in my lifetime. 20 years earlier and he'd have been PM. Guess he shows as they do now, things change.

 

[Grendel]

I'd disagree with Blair - he was Labour, if pragmatic Labour.

Kinnock possibly the best speaker i've heard in my lifetime. 20 years earlier and he'd have been PM. Guess he shows as they do now, things change.

Blair was a member of a Marxist group anti Eu and CND - he saw the light!

I was always a bit puzzled why Kinnock failed against major - his keynote speech in Sheffield backfired - ive met his son a couple of times and he’s a good guy as well

 

[Ian1779]

Blair was a member of a Marxist group anti Eu and CND - he saw the light!

I was always a bit puzzled why Kinnock failed against major - his keynote speech in Sheffield backfired - ive met his son a couple of times and he’s a good guy as well

Saw the colour of Murdoch’s money you mean.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

the fact is politics is a very silly game now.

In the days of Kinnock vs thatcher or major there was a purpose. Now it’s just a game.

Blair / Cameron / clegg are just politicians and could be in any party

Let’s be honest. Gordon brown was the last leader of any party who actually had any integrity - well you could also say May I guess

look what happened to them

oh and Corbyn of course

My earliest political memory is my parents saying they would emigrate if Blair got in. We lived in Major's constituency and indeed emigrated-back to Coventry.

Though I do agree on the general point. May just looked to be doing a weak Thatcher tribute act with none of the authority. Corbyn whatever your opinion of him certainly believed what he said and for me that was the appeal in a dismal 2015 field. There were some eyebrows raised at the latest union meeting where a socialist party member went 'well what are we going to do about Labour' to which I replied 'we had Corbyn for 4 years, you've had your chance'.

Politics in the UK is just lacking in a true statesman

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Blair was a member of a Marxist group anti Eu and CND - he saw the light!

I was always a bit puzzled why Kinnock failed against major - his keynote speech in Sheffield backfired - ive met his son a couple of times and he’s a good guy as well

I've accidentally barged Kinnock out of a doorway. He's quite short!

I suspect ginger and Welsh didn't help at the time. Ironically not being London based probably would now. And Major benefited from whatever the next Tory leader will - new broom, seen as a refreshing change even if the party is same old same old.

 

[Grendel]

I've accidentally barged Kinnock out of a doorway. He's quite short!

I suspect ginger and Welsh didn't help at the time. Ironically not being London based probably would now. And Major benefited from whatever the next Tory leader will - new broom, seen as a refreshing change even if the party is same old same old.

Kinnock couldn’t quite shake off the hard left image

When you look back he did save the party from oblivion along with Hattersley - A Benn Heffer follow on from Foot would have killed it for good - as would PR ironically

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

On standby-very fitting lyrics

 

[Grendel]

My earliest political memory is my parents saying they would emigrate if Blair got in. We lived in Major's constituency and indeed emigrated-back to Coventry.

Though I do agree on the general point. May just looked to be doing a weak Thatcher tribute act with none of the authority. Corbyn whatever your opinion of him certainly believed what he said and for me that was the appeal in a dismal 2015 field. There were some eyebrows raised at the latest union meeting where a socialist party member went 'well what are we going to do about Labour' to which I replied 'we had Corbyn for 4 years, you've had your chance'.

Politics in the UK is just lacking in a true statesman

May since Heath is the only PM kicked out whose stuck around - so she believes in the system and public duty

Starmer and Johnson would be off in an instant - Starmer is even writing a book! Johnson will do and make a killing on tbe after dinner circuit

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

May since Heath is the only PM kicked out whose stuck around - so she believes in the system and public duty

Starmer and Johnson would be off in an instant - Starmer is even writing a book! Johnson will do and make a killing on tbe after dinner circuit

Well not quite, Brown remained as an MP for another 5 years and of course made that famous intervention in the indyref

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well not quite, Brown remained as an MP for another 5 years and of course made that famous intervention in the indyref

Because elected when leader though, stood aside as soon as the next election came around. May actually decided to fight for her seat.

 

[Grendel]

Well not quite, Brown remained as an MP for another 5 years and of course made that famous intervention in the indyref

What I meant was she was since Heath the only PM who then stood again for election

 

[Deleted member 5849]

What I meant was she was since Heath the only PM who then stood again for election

Every now and again she's bared her teeth slightly, but she's been a lot less of a critic on the back benches than Heath was with Thatcher!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Because elected when leader though, stood aside as soon as the next election came around. May actually decided to fight for her seat.

I see, understood. To be honest if the SNP tsunami weren't about to hit he might well have done.

 

[Grendel]

Every now and again she's bared her teeth slightly, but she's been a lot less of a critic on the back benches than Heath was with Thatcher!

I bet she’s loving life tonight though

 

[Philosoraptor]

The most disappointing thing today is someone not getting Jeremy Hunt's surname wrong.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I bet she’s loving life tonight though

What goes around and all that. She'll definitely be in the no confidence camp!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Word that Johnson is safe but possibly a 3 digit number have voted against him

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The most disappointing thing today is someone not getting Jeremy Hunt's surname wrong.

Sky news reporter nearly did! It came out as c-hunt

 

[PVA]

The most disappointing thing today is someone not getting Jeremy Hunt's surname wrong.

Oh ye of little faith

 

[skybluetony176]

Great result

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

211 in favour, 148 opposed

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well that's quite a lot against him!

 

[Philosoraptor]

Oh ye of little faith

Faith in Humanity restored.

 

[stupot07]

Worse performance than May and she had to resign 6 months later. Its a win, but 41% of your MPs are against him.

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[Grendel]

Well i suspect within 12 months that is probably that. 148 but he is very different to the likes of May

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well i suspect within 12 months that is probably that. 148 but he is very different to the likes of May

Well I mean he's a literal criminal and a majority of his MPs are fine with it so you're probably right.

 

[PVA]

Absolute shocker for the fat greasy pig.

Going to be so much blue on blue over the next few months and the Tories will drag themselves further and further into the mud. Lovely.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well i suspect within 12 months that is probably that. 148 but he is very different to the likes of May

He certainly won't quit unless forced to. There were rumours that they'd all go on a vote strike if he decided to stay - that'd end up carnage!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He certainly won't quit unless forced to. There were rumours that they'd all go on a vote strike if he decided to stay - that'd end up carnage!

Starmer will help pass the legislation in such a case

 

[stupot07]

Well i suspect within 12 months that is probably that. 148 but he is very different to the likes of May

Very true, he has no honour or dignity, so will cling on to the bitter end.

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[Grendel]

Well I mean he's a literal criminal and a majority of his MPs are fine with it so you're probably right.

if he’s a criminal I’ve been a criminal 4 times more than him