play_in_skyblue_stripes
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Did you mean Man City?
Incoming! - Callum Doyle (4 Viewers)
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SlowerThanPlatt
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Bit worried by his aireal stats. Wouldn't want him playing with a wing back like Maatsen for example. Bidwell is a lot better in the air so should be able to work reasonably well with him. Mccallum as well for example would be good alongside Doyle. Also think we may get Panzo and those 2 compete for the LCB role
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rob9872
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Not sure why nobody thinks he's a starter. I expect him to be first choice at LCB.City wouldn't let us have him to not play him and there will likely be penalty clauses if we do that means higher % of wages paid.
He's young so will make mistakes, but accomplished on the ball from what I've heard (not seen him personally). Not too worried on aerial stats either if true as more the John Stones mold who reads the game well.
He's young so will make mistakes, but accomplished on the ball from what I've heard (not seen him personally). Not too worried on aerial stats either if true as more the John Stones mold who reads the game well.
Block 19
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John Stones is much better. He'll probably make the England squad
Jamesimus
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Not the kind of LCB signing I wanted / felt like we needed, presuming he starts most games. Feel like we more needed someone a bit more experienced with a bit of pace.
That said, he will suit the way we play and is clearly good with the ball at his feet.
Seems like M.R. and his team are sticking to their guns in their philosophy; young, technical players interested in attacking football - rather thinking about not conceding perhaps we're going to try and outscore the opposition? Hopefully the lads have been working on their finishing!
That said, he will suit the way we play and is clearly good with the ball at his feet.
Seems like M.R. and his team are sticking to their guns in their philosophy; young, technical players interested in attacking football - rather thinking about not conceding perhaps we're going to try and outscore the opposition? Hopefully the lads have been working on their finishing!
Jamesimus
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To be fair Ostegard was 20 (21 in the November) built like a brick shithouse and looked like a man. Doyle is and looks like a teenager. Maatsen and Sterling both used to get bullied physically at times, but you have cover as a wing back.
Regardless of raw talent and potential, he is definitely a downgrade on JCS if only for experience and physicality.
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Both look like they have very similar builds from these pics, just one of them has started shaving and the other hasn't.
stupot07
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Jamesimus
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Mad, he looks nothing like Sheikh Mansour.
Yorkshire SB
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Hard to know what to expect, sounds like he's good with the ball but short defensively. Suspect our style and playing in a 3 will suit him. Players improve rapidly at that age too.
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It's undeniable he is experience-wise, which is what I've seen mentioned.
Hobo
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If you look at my posting history I consistently say no signing guarantees success, I remember Kevin Drinkell, Freddie Eastwood and Gary Collier.
But rather than be glass half empty on everything, I prefer to reserve judgement until they actually play. Also I don't believe in making judgements on their first appearance and give players a chance to establish themselves.
In an ideal world I would love us to sign an established 26 or 28 year old as a direct replacement for Kyle McFadz. Maybe the budget isn't there, maybe the right player isn't currently available, who knows?
But I still think Doyle can play a role and his signing is a positive step forward.
SeaSeeEffCee
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This transfer has really hammered home how fucking embarrassing our fans are with anything Sunderland related, Jesus Christ it’s so small time.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Evo1883
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To be fair I've been to Sunderland twice with crowds over 30,000 and they're quiet as a mouse ..
Great_Expectations
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Not sure I really get any negativity. Yea he’s young but so what. He suits our style of play based on his stats and anecdotal evidence. Hell also have McFadz, Hyam, Bidwell (?) around him who are all experienced players.
For the record I also don’t think he’ll be first choice, I expect another LCB to come in.
Interesting comparisons to JCS - he absolutely has the edge experience wise and is a solid player (unless against a physical striker) who I would have liked. But I wonder how much judgements are clouded by the fact he’s left footed.
For the record I also don’t think he’ll be first choice, I expect another LCB to come in.
Interesting comparisons to JCS - he absolutely has the edge experience wise and is a solid player (unless against a physical striker) who I would have liked. But I wonder how much judgements are clouded by the fact he’s left footed.
SkyblueDad
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Funny a number on here were belly aching about missing out on the Man City kid who we would have had to pay a fee for choosing Burnley over us possibly Doyle with 36 games under his belt at Sunderland has a bit more experience.
DannyThomas_1981
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Just to offer a counter view on Doyle being too young; Garry Gillespie joined us at the age of 18 after just 20 odd appearances in Scotland. Would make it into most City all time 11s for anyone in my age group. I’m looking forward to seeing young Doyle making a real contribution this season.
stay_up_skyblues
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If we’re gonna sign a teenager on loan then an England youth international who could be turning out for potentially the best team in the world in a few years is the one to get. Could come on quite a bit from last season under better management in a footballing side based on his stats so let’s see.
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I'll wait until I see him play before expressing an opinion. Yes I know that is a strange thing to do rather than writing players off before seeing them play, like Tavares and Cashman.
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Grendel
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Finding an example that is nearly half a century ago isnt exactly supporting your argument
Grendel
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Most people have done the opposite with Tavares
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Unlike Matthew Mills
Brighton Sky Blue
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How does his athletic prowess compare to Biamou at the same age?
Grendel
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shepardo01
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Before he got sacked, Johnson played him. Don't think Neill played him much after that....
SlowerThanPlatt
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Is Biamou still injured? Not seen him linked with anyone
shepardo01
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.....those talking about age, just for only age related balance- Maatsen was 18 for most of last season I think.
Grendel
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Danny has him locked in his dungeon