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wingy

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Would expect Truss to pass by the wayside eventually.
Seems to be displaying a huge level of arrogance in her approach to this.
 
rob9872

rob9872

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Hopefully Suella, Kemi or Rishi. Had the first female in Lady Thatcher and they'd be missing a trick not to tie up blocks of BAME votes.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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CCFCSteve said:
It’s strange how badly Hunt polls both with members and the normal world yet you’re not the first person to mention there’s support for him out there. I always think he comes across as pretty credible when I hear him. Maybe a bit dull but I don’t mind that
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It might be because his tenure as health secretary left the NHS disastrously ill prepared for the pandemic that killed many thousands of people
 
rob9872

rob9872

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fernandopartridge said:
What is the Scottish play for the Tories though?
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Let them have devolution in an area Conservatives will never do well and need
less seats for an over all majority. In fact enjoy a Conservative government for the next 20 years if the Union breaks.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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rob9872 said:
Let them have devolution in an area Conservatives will never do well and need
less seats for an over all majority. In fact enjoy a Conservative government for the next 20 years if the Union breaks.
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Do you think the country will forgive the Conservative and Unionist Party for breaking up the union? Also worth noting that Tory success in Scotland also kept Corbyn out of power so there’s also that to consider.
 
rob9872

rob9872

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skybluetony176 said:
Do you think the country will forgive the Conservative and Unionist Party for breaking up the union? Also worth noting that Tory success in Scotland also kept Corbyn out of power so there’s also that to consider.
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I doubt many will give a fk tbh.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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chiefdave said:
None of the options are great. Mordaunt was hopeless when she was my MP, the fact she's even considered an option shows how poor the options are.
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It’s terrible, I’m starting to think she’s the best hope for the country. Of those with an actual chance of winning. Truss would make us possibly an even bigger laughing stock than we currently are and Sunak… jeez, just the thought of Sunak sends shivers down my spine.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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chiefdave said:
None of the options are great. Mordaunt was hopeless when she was my MP, the fact she's even considered an option shows how poor the options are.
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Why was she hopeless as your MP? Based on what?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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skybluetony176 said:
I think that’s very naive. A massive percentage of people in England are either directly from or descendants of Scotland and Northern Ireland and most definitely give a shit.
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im a descendant from Ireland and no I don’t give a shit. Scotland will press for a vote regardless and they will stay - Ireland is a worthless basket case I’d rather the south pick up the tab but actually even they aren’t that stupid anyway
 
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skybluetony176

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Grendel said:
im a descendant from Ireland and no I don’t give a shit. Scotland will press for a vote regardless and they will stay - Ireland is a worthless basket case I’d rather the south pick up the tab but actually even they aren’t that stupid anyway
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I’m a descendant of Northern Ireland and definitely give a shit. Plus you’re an idiot trapped in a cult.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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skybluetony176 said:
I’m a descendant of Northern Ireland and definitely give a shit. Plus you’re an idiot trapped in a cult.
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But you wouldn’t vote Tory anyway so what’s your point? The agreement allows a referendum and that was the Mowlam
Surrender deal - live with it
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Grendel said:
But you wouldn’t vote Tory anyway so what’s your point? The agreement allows a referendum and that was the Mowlam
Surrender deal - live with it
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As you know I was a regular Tory voter until it became a cult. Many of my family are also including my Enniskillen born mother who of late has pinched her nose and continued voting Tory. She’s wavering now, she actually voted Tory since arriving in England just over 50 years ago because they’ve always been considered friends of Northern Ireland Protestants and friends of Ulster. I would say she’s pretty typical of NI Protestants living in the UK, she was brought up with a unionist mind set and a party who has unionist in their name is always appealing to that mindset.

Fucking surrender deal. You’re supposed to be a grown man.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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skybluetony176 said:
Do you think the country will forgive the Conservative and Unionist Party for breaking up the union? Also worth noting that Tory success in Scotland also kept Corbyn out of power so there’s also that to consider.
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Not sure that many in England would care if both Scotland and the north of Ireland left.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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So we have the proud patriotic right on here saying they wouldn't give a stuff if the Union broke apart on their watch. Quite an admission considering it would actually make all of us worse off-good luck selling UK plc with the flag changed and a huge chunk of the territory lopped off.
 
rob9872

rob9872

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well if they don't they should.
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Why? I'm about as irish as I am French. There's water in between and economically it's a pain in the arse. Most of them feel the same way I'd guess.

I could pretend to care for a few likes, but a bit like climate change I'm less than concerned and can't really affect it so won't waste energy worrying about it. Who's not loving a bit of sun this week? Or move to Scotland whilst you still can :)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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rob9872 said:
Why? I'm about as irish as I am French. There's water in between and economically it's a pain in the arse. Most of them feel the same way I'd guess.

I could pretend to care for a few likes, but a bit like climate change I'm less than concerned and can't really affect it so won't waste energy worrying about it. Who's not loving a bit of sun this week? Or move to Scotland whilst you still can :)
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I was more on about Scotland to be honest. Which is fine if you’re cool with the British state coming to an end it just surprises me given the boasts of patriotism we’ve had from the right for most of recorded history
 
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