Hamer (2 Viewers)

[mark82]

Listening to CWR, he had clearly not seen it properly.

He hadn't, but I'd be very surprised if we appealed it (despite my own opinion on the incident). Don't really see these overturned. Would need to be clear evidence that it was simulation by their player or there was no contact/intent. Both are nigh on impossible to prove with the evidence available.

 

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[covcity4life]

He's brilliant until he's handed a one on one.

He scored a 1 on 1 Vs Luton earlier in the week didn't he?

 

[skyblueelephant76]

Looks like it could be a certain RWB replacing Hamer whilst he is suspended...

Coventry City boss says Todd Kane could fill in for suspended Hamer

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[rob9872]

I don't hold the view it was simulation, but I do think he was holding hamer down and it wasn't so much a kick out as trying to free himself. It is possible he caught him completely accidentally.

 

[Tommo1993]

I don't hold the view it was simulation, but I do think he was holding hamer down and it wasn't so much a kick out as trying to free himself. It is possible he caught him completely accidentally.

View does not fit the common narrative.

 

[Adge]

I don't hold the view it was simulation, but I do think he was holding hamer down and it wasn't so much a kick out as trying to free himself. It is possible he caught him completely accidentally.

This is where the average Joe Public football fan doesn’t understand the laws of the game. I’ve seen the term “no intent” or “not intentional” regarding Hamers sending off. It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If a high foot catches another player in the upper body/face it’s a red card, intent or no intent, doesn’t matter. Not sure why people can’t get it-it’s mandatory.

 

[wingy]

This is where the average Joe Public football fan doesn’t understand the laws of the game. I’ve seen the term “no intent” or “not intentional” regarding Hamers sending off. It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If a high foot catches another player in the upper body/face it’s a red card, intent or no intent, doesn’t matter. Not sure why people can’t get it-it’s mandatory.

It's not a high foot it's trying to release himself from someone who's trying to play WWE Smackdown .

 

[rob9872]

This is where the average Joe Public football fan doesn’t understand the laws of the game. I’ve seen the term “no intent” or “not intentional” regarding Hamers sending off. It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If a high foot catches another player in the upper body/face it’s a red card, intent or no intent, doesn’t matter. Not sure why people can’t get it-it’s mandatory.

This is where the average two bob referee assumes that it was suggested it shouldn't be red, merely that the collision was accidental rather than the blues player simulating.

 

[Tommo1993]

This is where the average Joe Public football fan doesn’t understand the laws of the game. I’ve seen the term “no intent” or “not intentional” regarding Hamers sending off. It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If a high foot catches another player in the upper body/face it’s a red card, intent or no intent, doesn’t matter. Not sure why people can’t get it-it’s mandatory.

So he was brought down intentionally and red carded for the final stage of the infringement that he was victim of, in other words. It’s a straighten of the legs to release himself from a grapple.

 

[Winny the Bish]

Looks like it could be a certain RWB replacing Hamer whilst he is suspended...

Coventry City boss says Todd Kane could fill in for suspended Hamer

Coventry City news from CoventryLive as Sky Blues boss Mark Robins weighs up his options to cover key role during four match ban

www.coventrytelegraph.net

The Kevin Foley flashbacks I’m having rn

 

[Deleted member 2477]

This is where the average Joe Public football fan doesn’t understand the laws of the game. I’ve seen the term “no intent” or “not intentional” regarding Hamers sending off. It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If a high foot catches another player in the upper body/face it’s a red card, intent or no intent, doesn’t matter. Not sure why people can’t get it-it’s mandatory.

High foot ?. It was no more than 18” off the floor

 

[chiefdave]

This is where the average Joe Public football fan doesn’t understand the laws of the game. I’ve seen the term “no intent” or “not intentional” regarding Hamers sending off. It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If a high foot catches another player in the upper body/face it’s a red card, intent or no intent, doesn’t matter. Not sure why people can’t get it-it’s mandatory.

How is it a high foot when he's on the ground?

 

[shmmeee]

This is where the average Joe Public football fan doesn’t understand the laws of the game. I’ve seen the term “no intent” or “not intentional” regarding Hamers sending off. It doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not. If a high foot catches another player in the upper body/face it’s a red card, intent or no intent, doesn’t matter. Not sure why people can’t get it-it’s mandatory.

In what way was his foot high?

 

[Adge]

Listen, I’m just telling you how it is. That is what Mr Scott will have seen from an unbiased neutral point of view. You don’t have to agree with the explanation.

 

[PVA]

Listen, I’m just telling you how it is. That is what Mr Scott will have seen from an unbiased neutral point of view. You don’t have to agree with the explanation.

Yes I agree with you.

I'm not sure if Hamer meant to kick him in the face or was genuinely trying to wriggle free.

But by the letter of the law he had to go really:

"Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball"

Makes no mention of whether it has to be deliberate or not.

 

[OldBedrocker]

Where's that in the Laws of the Game?

? 2 footed challenge is deemed reckless and as such a red card offence

 

[Grendel]

? 2 footed challenge is deemed reckless and as such a red card offence

No it really isn’t

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

? 2 footed challenge is deemed reckless and as such a red card offence

Reckless actually means a yellow card

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Looks like it could be a certain RWB replacing Hamer whilst he is suspended...

Coventry City boss says Todd Kane could fill in for suspended Hamer

Coventry City news from CoventryLive as Sky Blues boss Mark Robins weighs up his options to cover key role during four match ban

www.coventrytelegraph.net

I expect Kelly will be back in, and I think he'll be a bit better than people are expecting. He gets slated a bit too easily for my liking, and even if he does slow us down a bit, there are some really important parts of his play that I think we are crying out for. Certainly on the defensive side of things.

As mad as it sounds, I think Kane would do OK in the middle, as he is a fairly tidy player. I would just prefer him at RWB as Dabo is a big problem for us at the moment.

 

[clint van damme]

He scored a 1 on 1 Vs Luton earlier in the week didn't he?

But apart from that....

 

[Grendel]

But apart from that....

He is not great at shooting and poor given his height and presence poor in the air. He’d be worth millions otherwise he could have had 30 last season

 

[OldBedrocker]

Reckless actually means a yellow card

99% of the time a player lunges in with both feet is deemed out of control and gets a red card. Ref didn’t even book him

 

[Grendel]

99% of the time a player lunges in with both feet is deemed out of control and gets a red card. Ref didn’t even book him

There is no rule that says that tackle is a foul - show me the rule that says it is

 

[clint van damme]

I expect Kelly will be back in, and I think he'll be a bit better than people are expecting. He gets slated a bit too easily for my liking, and even if he does slow us down a bit, there are some really important parts of his play that I think we are crying out for. Certainly on the defensive side of things.

As mad as it sounds, I think Kane would do OK in the middle, as he is a fairly tidy player. I would just prefer him at RWB as Dabo is a big problem for us at the moment.

I'm not sure about Kelly.

As for Dabo, and I've said this numeerous times, he offers an outlet and retains possession more than any other wing back option we have and Robins seems to like this.

The criticisms about him defensively and going forward are all valid but Robins seems to be more interested in the attributes I've mentioned

 

[Grendel]

I'm not sure about Kelly.

As for Dabo, and I've said this numeerous times, he offers an outlet and retains possession more than any other wing back option we have and Robins seems to like this.

The criticisms about him defensively and going forward are all valid but Robins seems to be more interested in the attributes I've mentioned

Robins also is interested in Jamie Allens attributes as a number 10

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

99% of the time a player lunges in with both feet is deemed out of control and gets a red card. Ref didn’t even book him

Doesn't really excuse Hamer thrashing his legs around-it was naive at best

 

[stupot07]

99% of the time a player lunges in with both feet is deemed out of control and gets a red card. Ref didn’t even book him

He didnt really lunge in with 2 feet. They were side by side to each other, he went with one foot then his second foot slipped. It wasn't with
'excessive' force or 'brutality against an opponent' which is the offence used when people get sent off for 2 footed lunges. Big difference between these two challenges for example. Only one of which is a red card.

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[SkyblueDad]

Doesnt sound like we will be appealing the red going by Robins comments

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Appeal and lose we lose Hamer for a fifth game not worth the risk imo

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Appeal and lose we lose Hamer for a fifth game not worth the risk imo

May as well cut out the formalities for his next suspension

 

[rob9872]

Appeal and lose we lose Hamer for a fifth game not worth the risk imo

Options are 4, 5 or 0 I'd say at 4-1 it's worth a gamble appealing and they don't always increase it for a failed appeal.

 

[Skybluedownunder]

Robins looking to play Todd Kane centre mid in the four games Hamer will be suspended… fuck me you know we are desperate when he’s an option out of position and hasn’t played all season after being bombed out and nobody wanting him


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[pusbccfc]

He scored a 1 on 1 Vs Luton earlier in the week didn't he?

Yep and I have hit one or two 180s on a dart board. Haven't done it for years.

 

[pusbccfc]

Looks like it could be a certain RWB replacing Hamer whilst he is suspended...

Coventry City boss says Todd Kane could fill in for suspended Hamer

Coventry City news from CoventryLive as Sky Blues boss Mark Robins weighs up his options to cover key role during four match ban

www.coventrytelegraph.net

I've said on here before that I could see Kane doing a better job on midfield. His decent range of passing with less responsibility tracking back than you have as a RB.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I would get Kane in to replace Dabo thinking he could go into midfield shows how poor the requirement has been, maybe he could pick Palmer I assume he is fit and here.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I've said on here before that I could see Kane doing a better job on midfield. His decent range of passing with less responsibility tracking back than you have as a RB.

Hey Todd, I know we spent months on end trying to get you out the club, but nobody was interested so…fancy playing in Hamer’s position for a few weeks?