USSR invades Ukraine. (5 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Pete
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Brighton Sky Blue
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To be fair I do think that is a little overplayed, regards to WW2 at least any way.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Germany lost more soldiers as a % of total population than The Soviet Union in WW2.
Their tactics were not to throw wave after wave of fodder at the enemy. But, similar to today, they lacked the organisation, leadership and training to successfully implement their tactics so it often appeared like they were just throwing men at it.
Films like Enemy at the Gates have a lot to answer for!
Flying Fokker
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just wonder if this is where you got your stats from?
Chart: World War II Casualties as a Percentage of Each Country's PopulationTopForeignStocks.com
A post on the World War II Casualties as a Percentage of Each Country's Population with multiple charts included
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Brighton Sky Blue
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The Enemy at the Gates comment wasn't aimed at you, it was just a general comment
People were expendable for all leaders and all countries, that's just the nature of war in those times.
Of course the totals for the Soviets are awful, but that still doesn't mean that sending wave after wave of people was their strategy. It happened sometimes, but was not their strategy. Same as now really.
dutchman
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I read once that out of every 100 boys in the Soviet Union aged 14 when the war began only three survived to the end of the war.
tisza
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they are quite literally cannon fodder. Mass groupings going to use up Ukrainian larger missiles which are difficult to replace. Literally sending people to their death to deplete Ukrainian arms reserves.
shmmeee
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Still think the primary aim is ethnic cleansing.
It does make you wonder if that's what's going on.
Though poor minorities in the middle of nowhere are less likely to cause unrest and protests than plucking people from the major cities so I think they will be conscripted in much larger numbers.
skybluetony176
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Imagine my shock when I woke up on Sunday morning to find that I was still alive. Talk about an anticlimax.
duffer
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Yeah, with hindsight maxing out my credit card on bottles of Cristal down the casino on Saturday night probably wasn't a good move... Saying that, with this government we'll probably all be bust by the end of the month anyway.
Smoke 'em if you got 'em, seems to be the official cabinet line.
Otis
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Yeah, with hindsight maxing out my credit card on bottles of Cristal down the casino on Saturday night probably wasn't a good move... Saying that, with this government we'll probably all be bust by the end of the month anyway.
Smoke 'em if you got 'em, seems to be the official cabinet line.
If ya ain't got em, then ya hit rock bottom.
David O'Day
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jimmyhillsfanclub
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So do we all believe its the Russians that have sabotaged the nord-stream pipelines?
Otis
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Hmm, not sure. You get information and disinformation on all sides, so hard to tell. It is a Russian type of thing to do though.
Are they saying it is definitely sabotage and not a fault?
skyblueinBaku
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Difficult to believe it's a fault, Otis. It's two pipielines that are leaking.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Seismologists confirmed it was explosions.....whether they were caused deliberately or not is still a guess I suppose.
Just seems to me that if the Russians wanted to disrupt the gas flow, they could do it a lot more simply & a lot closer to home without risking a covert underwater mission in Danish/German waters....
shmmeee
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Unless the fault was someone left 100kg of C4 down there by accident…
Very weird all round, not sure why the Russians would do it, unless it’s the ensure no way back from war.
SBAndy
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My hunch is that they’ve done it to show they have the capability to take out that new Norwegian pipeline at any time. Bit of a strange way of doing it, mind.
LastGarrison
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Surely this just pushes the EU into finding alternatives and cutting off their reliance altogether?
Unless of course it is done to drive gas prices up further to add additional pressure to EU countries over the cost of living crisis coming into the winter months.
Sky Blue Pete
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Frank Sidebottom
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Ukrainians told to be ready to fight for Russia
The BBC gets rare access to the front line near Kherson where Ukrainian troops are pushing Russians back.
www.bbc.co.uk
This is absolutely nuts, Drafting Ukrainians into the Russian Army to fight against Ukraine.... I'm sure that'll work well.
Fucking horrendous situation for those poor folks to be forced into.... but surely arming Ukrainians to attack their own countrymen is a very, very stupid idea.
eastwoodsdustman
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I'm sure I read somewhere that the only vessel in the area at the time was a US navy one.
Disclaimer: I did have cheese that evening so could have been a vivid dream.
Maybe It wasn't a dream:
On February 7, 2022, US President Joe Biden threatened to ‘end’ the Nord Stream 2 pipeline
On February 7, 2022, in a joint press conference with Olaf Scholz, US President Joe Biden threatened to ‘end’ the Nord Stream 2 pipeline
euroweeklynews.com
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eastwoodsdustman
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This is mental if they do it. They're basically asking Ukrainians to fight eachother.Ukrainians told to be ready to fight for Russia
The BBC gets rare access to the front line near Kherson where Ukrainian troops are pushing Russians back.www.bbc.co.uk
This is absolutely nuts, Drafting Ukrainians into the Russian Army to fight against Ukraine.... I'm sure that'll work well.
Fucking horrendous situation for those poor folks to be forced into.... but surely arming Ukrainians to attack their own countrymen is a very, very stupid idea.
The more I see of Russia's actions there, the more it parallels 1930's and 1940's Germany in Europe.
Somebody is at fault but who knows who, I don’t think it benefits anyone, apart from maybe the us who can now sell gas to us via ships. One thing is for sure Europe will be struggling for a few winters to come, hopefully the governments come together and find a solution.