fernandopartridge
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I'm quite surprised that the administrators are not a bit more dispassionate
Wasps administrators report (8 Viewers)
- Thread starter MalcSB
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fernandopartridge
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I would suspect that is unpaid business rates per earlier post
Philosoraptor
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Are you telling me Duggins knew nothing about any of this?
Philosoraptor
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Just read Nicks post. Missed it.
Nick
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Yeah, that isn't a small amount of money is it?
Nick
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Philosoraptor
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What makes me think the BH's were given the minimalist amount of time to react to all this.
Nick
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I know, same with places like Screwfix.
It's like somebody was just shopping on the never never.
jordan210
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my dodgy eyes. Must have been wasps auditor in another life as cant see a thing !
Philosoraptor
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Could have and should have pulled the plug a long time before they actually did.
Philosoraptor
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Seems like they waited until the last possible moment.
The Philosopher
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Wasps kitman probably has a shed full of new power tools he can do you a deal on.
Philosoraptor
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I guess if it's not your money, then you don't give a fuck.
Philosoraptor
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Basically, it looks like they were just maxing out their businesses credit cards.
The Philosopher
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I did think the sign company had reclaimed the Stadium signs for non payment and our hopes that the Wasps were gone for good were a bit premature.
But then I thought, weren’t the signs bundled into a plain white van, a signwriting company would have a sign written van, right?
skybluetony176
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Covid effected income from CCFC games? WE WERE IN BIRMINGHAM! And we were there by Wasps choice, not covid. That report is BS, like everything else connected to the saga known as Wasps. Good riddance. Just feel for all the small businesses they robbed. If they were getting them to do work knowing they would never get paid except in some fantasy that people were queuing up to lend them money or invest that’s beyond out of order. Any chance of them pooling resources and going after directors personally? Is there even a mechanism to do that in scenarios like this?
skybluetony176
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I’ll ask the wife
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Generally speaking it will get to the stage where suppliers will stop giving you goods in advance if you exceed credit limits. It's what put the final nail in the coffin with both Woolworths and Toys'R'Us.
To me, this just confirms what lengths Wasps went to in order to keep things going. Again, it's FIFA style freebies and flattery. It isn't an accident or just clumsyness, or a few small cash flow problems. It's outright fraud on a large scale.
To think some on here willingly went to watch them is a disgrace.
The Philosopher
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Maybe Wasps had a good credit score. Some SME’s might have had credit lines in place for them (Ie could get invoice finance and credit insurance against them). HSBC seemed to be courting along up until mid summer - Wasps would have been glossing their figures - giving HSBC sexed up MI reports which then feed into the credit system, or paying certain creditors on time to keep their rating up.
The fact they wouldn’t give attendance figures towards the end suggests Wasps were desperately trying to paint a picture.
You don’t just look at a credit score when judging what to offer customers, or you shouldn’t anyway. A proper look at their finances would have showed this was a possibility a long way off
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The Philosopher
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It’s hard to go after directors. They only have to prove that they had reason to believe that there was a good chance of turning thinks around. I think the term is “blue sky” thinking. Ironically
Rusty Trombone
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The Philosopher
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I know what you are saying and you are right.
Lots of firms now will get a “credit line” against a customer. As soon as they raise an invoice against a customer and feed the info into their bank then the supplying firm will get paid 80/90% of the bill. If the customer has a decent credit rating then the bank will insure the supplier (for a fee) so that if the customer fails to pay then the bank / insurer will stand the hit.
Sometimes the small suppliers take a calculated risk and end up ok.
Maybe I’m being wishful on their behalf. Nothing worse than small businesses getting stung (pun).
The Philosopher
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Missed that. Are they on the list?
Nick
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Do you read threads?
The Philosopher
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Yep just checked. On the list for £92k.
Rusty Trombone
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The Philosopher
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Yes you are right it was a good point (hence like)
So many different signwriters and I’m sure I’d just seen photos of a plain white van.
Hold my hands up - missed the relevance.
MalcSB
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While ACL is mentioned, this seems (and is titled) as just being ACL.